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BLAKE 3:16
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posted 11 September 2002 10:45 PM      Profile for BLAKE 3:16     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I nominate Last Nite by the Strokes and Nutmeg Phantasy by Macy Gray.

Tertiiarally, My Daddy's Gone Crazy by Eminem.


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Hey! I like The Strokes! But if you think Last Nite is fucked up, try listening to some of the other songs on their CD! Christ, I haven't even figured out what half the lyrics SAY, let alone mean! And I've listened to it almost every day for a month!
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posted 12 September 2002 12:24 PM      Profile for Black Dog   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Velvet Underground's "The Gift" from White Light/White Heat.
Most screwed up song ever.

Ooops. 21st century. missed that. Ummm. "Poor Places" by Wilco.

[ September 12, 2002: Message edited by: black_dog ]


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quote:
The Velvet Underground's "The Gift" from White Light/White Heat.
Most screwed up song ever.

... with the possible exception of "Lady Godiva's Operation," same album.

Yeah, I know, 1968 and all. What can I say? Lotsa good music in the last couple of years, but otherwise, I don't approve of this 21-century business atall. Nossir, I don't like it a bit.


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In this age The Pixies have become oldschool.
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Gahd. I always pledged I'd neve rbe one of those "Man, music was so much beter in my day..." types, but sure 'nuff...

Hey, is it my fault 99% of pop music today blows?


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posted 12 September 2002 01:31 PM      Profile for writer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
black dog, it sure is sad to see. I'd say it's your fault if you're not looking for the good stuff. Pop music has long been dominated by crap.

"And I r-a-a-an, I ran so far a-wa-a-ay,
and I r-a-a-an, I ran so far a-wa-a-a-ay!
Couldn't get away."

Mmmm, yes! The good times!


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No one who knows me would ever accuse me of "not looking for the good stuff." It's always been there, just hard to find.The problem with pop music is just that: its meant to be pop(ular). But I honestly believe this is the worst point in history for pop. There's a lot less artist development today and zero margin of error for new acts. Any band/artist that doesn't sell 2 billion copies of their debut is junked. When the music industry is run by, like, three companies, the bottom line rules.
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Out of some perverse something, I like the song I quoted from, by the way. But I know it's crap.

I really like Hidden Camera's "Mild-Mannered Army" and their concerts in general. But you won't find their stuff on big labels, that's for sure!

(Does that mean it's not pop music?)

[ September 12, 2002: Message edited by: writer ]


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For 'crap' it's been stuck in my head for over twenty years.

The 'lyrics' are stupid and the synths could go but I heard a band with a Shane McGowenesque singer (on benzedrine) and a big organ do it 'till the place went nuts...

A hook is a hook.

[ September 12, 2002: Message edited by: flotsom ]


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The Vibrators they were called.
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posted 12 September 2002 02:28 PM      Profile for Black Dog   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Vibrators had some pretty good stuff. They were one of the earliest punk bands (and who says all lyrics have to be of Leonard Cohen-depth)>

BTW typing "vibrators" into google gives very interesting results.


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This site has a stream of The Vibrators show at CBGBs

Brian Fellow says "That's crazy!"

http://www.cbgb.com/stream/vibrators.htm


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Well, back to this century, I find the Chemical Brother's Hoops (and the CD, Come With Us) puts me in a whole other state.

For a blur of time, scratching, organ that is most trippy, Fantastique, by K-OS.

(I don't do "best" well.)

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Oops! Forgot my own nominations!

First, I have not heard of any of the modern stuff being mentioned outside the first post. I for one, agree with black_dog (for the most part. there are a couple exceptions. Not many), music was better in your day. A third of my Mp3's are from the 1960's, another third are modern folk/rock, and the rest are "other" (mostly "world" (Indian, Turkish, African "folk"), or things like Beck, Rufus Wainwright, Aretha Franklin, Sublime, Blondie... (yes, pretty big differences between the three, I know))

As for my pics for modern, I have to say there are only a couple "modern" groups I really follow. Modern pop culture frightens me. But my two favorite "modern" bands are The Wallflowers (they have an album coming out november! They count as modern! shut up!) and The Strokes. I'm gonna check out some others as soon as I re-download morpheus (or Kazaa- I'm not sure which one's better, but I get the impression Kazaa is). So anyay- my nominations:

W- I've been delivered
S- The Modern Age
S- Barely Legal (is it just me, or does that song make no sense as a whole?)
S- Hard To Explain


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I dunno, I think the 21st century might need all of it's 100 years to find a topper for America's "In the desert, you can't remember your name 'cause there ain't no one for to give you no pain."

However, while I find Eminem's current hit kinda catchy, this section where he tries to link the words discussing and disgusting is beyond laboured.

I'm kinda at sea with the yungun's current hits. With the airwaves currently dominated by Creedalike bands like Nickleback and others providing music to self mutilate by, I find myself shoving a cassette gag into the yammering mouth of the van radio more often than not.


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quote:
With the airwaves currently dominated
by Creedalike bands like Nickleback

Blargh! Don't mention the name! Don't mention the name! Not Canada's curse upon the world! No! No! My ears! Argh! I'm remember one of their songs! Noooooooooo!!!!!

Ugh, yet another of many scars upon our national pride...

edit to add: Worst French project presentations ever- last year. Pick a song, play a recording for the class, analyse the lyrics. 75 minutes of Nickleback, I think it can be said, qualifies as some sort of crime that the UN should take precautions to prevent. What a horrible day it was, until my friends liberated us with the aid of Gloria Gaynor.

[ September 13, 2002: Message edited by: meades ]


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i would have to say that the weirdest 21st century pop song so far would have to be the host by Sparta... I just bought the album the other day, and it's good, but strange...

"the host of the show comes down and collapses to the ground/ and the crime scene revisits me...
the future has fallen short, and when the sunset north, and the clouds fall from mirrored walls.
Let's pick and choose....
the host had his mouth sewn shut/ all in the name of trust...
what you know only falls apart, he listens in the dark/ to the records turn, i'll never learn to set it down, we'll speak in truth, capsize in solitaire, i'll always wear/ to set it down, i'll set it down, you'll set it down."

I suppose that I have been pretty sheltered from the "real" pop, but the alterna-pop (poop?) that I have heard on the radio lately is bland as mayonaise on toast.

edited to add: 75 minutes of NICKLEBACK??? ugh. man, when I had to do a French project like that, our teacher had enough experience to make us pick a french song... and no one could pick the same one.

[ September 13, 2002: Message edited by: wizkid ]


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Do a French project on "Ca Plane Pour Moi" by Plastic Bertrand. This tune is so catchy that even CJGX Radio in Yorkton, Sask. played it in the 70s.

I'm an official fossil, I know, but a current group called "Manau" plays a mixture of traditional Breton Celt and Rap music. They're on Kazaa.

Driving around with the kids today (their Muddah was at their school scoping the curriculum); we listened to "Hocus Pocus" by Focus, "Rock and Roll MadDonalds" by Wesley Willis, "Takin' Care of Business" by BTO and "Ca Plane Pour Moi."

The wee lads like to rock out with the old guy once in a while. They requested the tunes.


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posted 13 September 2002 04:28 AM      Profile for BLAKE 3:16     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've become a fogey, some how.

I'm dragging everyone back to the 90s here - sorry, but I had just the most marvelous time tonight dancing to "Pigs" by Cypress Hill and "Where is my Mind?" by the Pixies. O sweet youth!

Do folks know Blackalicious? They were recommended to me tonight as pretty sweet.


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Le Tigre's "What's Yr Take On Cassavetes" is pretty messed up. Neutral Milk Hotel's Communist Daughter is pretty weird. A lot of Stephen Merrit's various projects get me bouyant. And just for the title alone, I love Cornershop's "Lessons Learned From Rocky I to Rocky III"
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I remember hearing a song on the radio (I'm not sure who it was by) but it said something about 'I'd fly to the moon, to walk down your street'...huh? Love songs to aliens?

Ok..I'm a fogey too. Give me the nice sensible lyrics from my youth...like 'Doo wha ditty, ditty dum ditty doo'


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hey audra-

Good call on the Le Tigre's What's Your Take on Cassavetes.

I'll 2nd, 3rd, and 13th it.


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I nominate Idioteque by Radiohead (oh, that's sooooo 2 years ago). A leetle older, but not weirder, Whinger by Underworld. Going back to my own misspent youth, Disco Mystic by Lou Reed (LP, The Bells, I think), and a couple of tracks off the LP Dancable Weird Shit. Oh, and that really raunchy cover Marianne Faithfull did of Why'd You Do It. I'd like to nominate something newer, but being a busy Mum with not much time or money for CD shopping, combined with the sheer volume of unadulterated commercial dreck on Much Muzak that has me tuned out all the time, I'm out of the loop.

Oh, most messed up 21st century vj moment - some bimbo on Much referring to this pop song where a guy demands that a girl take of all her clothes as the "sexiest song/video of 2002". If that's what the young whipperschnappers of today consider sexy, I fear for the future of humanity. Now where's my flogger?

[ September 13, 2002: Message edited by: Rebecca West ]


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quote:
Do folks know Blackalicious? They were recommended to me tonight as pretty sweet.

They are! Run, don't walk, is my recommendation.

I can't say their stuff is all that messed up, but then again they do have some jaw-dropping rhymes.


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quote:
Driving around with the kids today (their Muddah was at their school scoping the curriculum); we listened to "Hocus Pocus" by Focus, "Rock and Roll MadDonalds" by Wesley Willis, "Takin' Care of Business" by BTO and "Ca Plane Pour Moi."

I haven't heard "Hocus Pocus" for ages. The first time I heard it was driving around, high as a kite in my buddies Celica which had, for the time, the top of the line stereo system.

My girls get exposed to "fossil rock", especially since I unearthed some lost tapes from my youth. (TDK-SAC 90, held everything for over twenty years-- now that's quality tape) Yesterday it was CCR stuff, mostly stuff I liked that never got played to death on the radio.

On the other side of the tape is Elton Motello's "Victim of Time", which includes the tune from "Ca plane Pour Moi", but with slightly differnent lyrics:

"I'd like to kick him in the head
Untill he's dead
The sight of blood is such a high.
OOOO hoooo hooo hooo.
He gave me head.

Jet boy/Jet girl,
gonna take you round the world,
I'm gonna take and penatrate
I'm gonna make you be a girl,
OOOO hoooo hooo hooo,
Jet boy/Jet girl."

Needless to say, that never got too much radio play.


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posted 13 September 2002 01:31 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Now where's my flogger?

I placed an order for one this very morning.


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CFNY in Toronto used to play Jet Boy/Jet Girl. They used to play alot of cool stuff back then, when they really were an alternative rock station.
quote:
I placed an order for one this very morning.
Oh Tommy, you ARE the very devil.

[ September 13, 2002: Message edited by: Rebecca West ]


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quote:
Oh Tommy, you ARE the very devil.

Then you best have some sympathy, and some taste.


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posted 13 September 2002 01:51 PM      Profile for Rebecca West     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, I do. Check your messages.
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I was once listening to "Jet Boy Jet Girl" with headphones, in my 2nd floor bedroom, with both my door and the upstairs door closed, calmly reading a book, when my Dad burst into the room and told me to turn the music down, because it was too loud downstairs.

I have to ask people to repeat themselves quite a bit these days...

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My mother did something similar when I was listening to the Buzzcock's rendition of Orgasm Addict one Easter Sunday morning with my bedroom window open. Screaming somethin' about our neighbours being Christian missionaries...
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Anyone familiar with Giant Sand? That's some pretty screwed up s**t righ there.
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Aren't they kind like this moody country goth band? Like Stompin' Tom meets Portishead?
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Interestingly put. Not quite goth, more like space(d) cowboys.
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Like Cowboy Junkies.
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I used goth (as in gothic, not as in Bauhaus et al) badly because I couldn't come up with a good word that meant spaced out, except for trance, which isn't the genre I meant either.

*&#%?@! music categories drive me nuts...no wonder the CRTC ditched 'em.


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Just on the subject of CFNY -- yikes!!!

I stopped listening to it when they stopped playing any hiphop other than the Beastie Boys. I 'd guess people can figure out why the Beasties were OK, but not other hiphop artists. Contact me if you don't know.

However, one day this past year I was working out at the gym, and thought some shitty pounding "alternative", aka Led Zeppelin 2001 might be good to exercycle to. The DJs went on and on about Rosie O'Donnell's weight and how she didn't know how to diet properly. The other host said that there were "other reasons" not to like her. I made a CRTC complaint against the station which is still in process. The Edge is Dredge


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Since everybody pretty much broke the 21st century rule, I would nominate Gravediggaz as the most fucked up band of the 90s.

Their big hit was 1-800-Suicide.

[ September 17, 2002: Message edited by: BLAKE 3:16 ]


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I nominate "Cameltoe" by Fannypack. Listen to it here!

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