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Mandos
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posted 17 June 2003 10:44 AM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK, OK, I know, I know. I'm going to indulge my taste for SF TV on this thread. Forgive me for liking something Spielberg

So I watched the first episode of Taken last night, and I must say I think it does have some promise if they go in the right direction. There were some schlocky moments here and there, but it worked. I think it is far more promising than the X-files, which took 9 years on basically the same storyline and never went anywhere. Here they seem to be taking some effort to "personize" the aliens from the beginning (unlike the X-files, which only had a couple of episodes like that), which, being a fan of xenoanthropological/contact SF, I like.

It is Spielberg, so there are a few ETish moments here and there. But it is more sinister. That intelligence captain guy is delightfully creepy. The aliens do have a nefarious plot. I am convinced that it is heading towards a sappy ending, what with improbable alien impregnation, but on the whole I'm looking forward to the rest of it. CBC, which rarely ever does SF, made a good choice.

[ 17 June 2003: Message edited by: Mandos ]


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Alix
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posted 17 June 2003 11:08 AM      Profile for Alix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I watched it too, and quite enjoyed it. (Well, half watched it as I was working on the computer at the same time). My partner said it was pretty good as a start.

Even though Spielberg didn't direct it, there was still plenty of the trademark Spielberg shots comprised of "People Looking at Things"


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posted 17 June 2003 11:12 AM      Profile for Meowful   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I saw it too, and I guess now I am committed every Monday night for 10 weeks!!

I was wondering if anyone else thought it rather strange that this mini-series; was filmed in Canada, with Canadian actors (rather than the ultra-famous American ones), and is not being shown in the states?


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Mandos
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posted 17 June 2003 11:13 AM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It isn't? I thought it was shown in the Sci-Fi Channel.
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posted 17 June 2003 12:03 PM      Profile for Alix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It is shown on Sci Fi.

It may have been shot here with some Canadian actors, but it is an American miniseries. (Anybody else notice Darla from Buffy?) However, I think the little speech from Cancer Man was added by CBC.


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posted 17 June 2003 12:53 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, Cancer Man as host was amusing, in the CBC everything-hosted style.
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posted 16 July 2003 11:22 AM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So are people still following this? I have watched all five episodes so far. It has slowed down a bit, but I think that it's still consistent. We don't know yet what the point is, but that's to be expected--but at least we know that the aliens are rational. The X-files got so muddled half-way through the alien plot that the conspiracy had to be so complex and abstract they couldn't keep it going. So far, Taken has avoided that trap.
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posted 16 July 2003 11:27 AM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm afraid that I forgot about it after five episodes. I read the book and it is quite faithful to that and I was intending to record it all and watch it all together. I thought it was well done but found that too many commercials distracted me too much.
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posted 16 July 2003 11:33 AM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There was a book?

I tape it, so I fast-forward over commercials.


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posted 16 July 2003 11:42 AM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was doing that too but missed one episode due to an emergency and forgot the following week. Yes, the softcover is by Thomas Cook based on the series created by Leslie Bohem and published by Dell/Random House. Do you have the website addy for the series?
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posted 16 July 2003 11:56 AM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://www.cbc.ca/taken

Oh, so the TV series is not based on the book but the other way around. Hmm.


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posted 16 July 2003 12:30 PM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, the story is taken from a compilation of reports over the years. I guess it was written as a screenplay first. Some of it uses event information from "Intrusion", Travis Walton's experiences (Fire in the Sky), some of Whitley Streiber's writings and others that may have been true events as research.

There's a lot of indicators that these kinds of events do occur through generations. Some of the hynotists that deal with abductees have reported events of childhood with cartoon characters and animals being a child's playmates and the medical examinations and nosebleeds appear to be common occurrances. There's a doctor somewhere who has a website and claims to have removed many implants and has a file on unusual scars.

As you can see, I find this a rather interesting subject. I'd love to eventually find out the truth about the reports of crashes, not only the Roswell one though that is the best known.


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posted 16 July 2003 12:51 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I used to be afraid of aliens at night and I had a lot of alien paraphrenalia when I was younger. Lots of UFO books and all that. I had heard of many of those things, and that it happens intergenerationally...but then some people might say that tendency towards delusion may also be intergenerational.

Alas, our friends have not left behind much evidence of their comings and goings It would be cool if they existed and were friendly, and of course knew things about physics that we didn't. It's why I like alien abduction stories now. Used to give me nightmares.


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posted 16 July 2003 01:41 PM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Have you followed any of Whitley Streiber's writings? He also has a website. Some stuff on there is very iffy but some is very interesting too. I haven't looked in for some time.

There's not enough evidence either way to prove whether UFOs are really what they're assumed to be and there is criticism of the hypnotherapy approach and abduction memories but it's still an interesting subject. Even the obvious hoaxes are interesting.


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posted 16 July 2003 02:03 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've heard of Streiber but haven't read much.

Well, even if it's all fake, it's interesting as a cultural phenomenon at the very least. And its true that there is no evidence to show anything either way, but the claim for their extraterrestrial nature is still objectively a weaker claim than the other explanations, since the other explanations have observable backing. But, as I said, it would be cool if it could ever be proven (in a non-Independence Day way).


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posted 16 July 2003 04:27 PM      Profile for kuba walda        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
WOW it just keeps getting better and BETTER. There are so many little bits of the story missing..... typical Speilberg.

I'm sure it'all come together in the end..........

I hope Jessie is going to be OK

kuba, obviously gettin' way too wrapped up in this

and to have thunkin it on CBC!!


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posted 16 July 2003 04:31 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As I said, I thought the last episode was just a little slow, until the end, at least.

A search of the web find that US reviews are infatuated with it, but British reviewers almost unanimously hate it. Hmm.


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posted 26 August 2003 12:10 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK, so I watched it to the end, but I missed half an hour of the last episode, and I only managed to tape the last half hour of the last episode. That's very disappointing considering my careful taping of 95% of the rest of it--someone screwed it up for my and after all that effort, I was pretty upset. I'm still looking to see if someone else taped it so I can make a copy. I don't want to buy it...it's being sold for $150 or something like that on DVD.

SOME SPOILER SPACE

Anyway, did anyone else make it to the end with me? What did you think? Just on the basis of what I saw in the last episode (1.5h of it), some things were resolved and many things weren't. Like, what is it that Evil Mary saw in the artifact that frightened both her and Allie, aside from Allie's inevitable departure? It didn't seem clear to me at all why Evil Mary became convinced that it was a war, when clearly Mad Scientist Guy had a more logical reaction.

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