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Performance Anxiety
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posted 19 June 2003 03:16 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
CanWEST-Global's THE GAZETTE has made a rare admission of truth in regards to the show they kicked out of the Montreal Fringe Festival as conflict-of-interest corporate sponsor.

Today, an anniversary of shame in Montreal's arts community, the following article appears, by Matt Radz.

quote:
Car Stories got booted out of the 2001 Fringe when Optative's experiment with media activism backfired, belching so much publicity smoke that the brilliance of the idea to do this sort of street performance vanished with the hot air.

This is a distinctly new direction from the CanWEST-Global paper, which has insisted up until now that the show was expelled for "a long list of reasons" which had nothing to do with THE GAZETTE.

Evidence, however, pointed out that THE GAZETTE was solely responsible for the expulsion of the first show ever in Fringe Theatre history, as exposed in this article by Brendan Woods of Concordia University.

All eyes are on the festival now to see if they finally come clean and compensate the company. For more details see HERE.


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4t2
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posted 19 June 2003 03:34 PM      Profile for 4t2     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Are you reading the same article? I don't think the author (who, I suspect, is not speaking for CanWest - there may indeed be a sliver of freedom left for Gazette journalists) is making any admission. Isn't he just stating that the publicity diminished the effect of the show? Maybe I need to read more carefully but I don't understand how this article admits that CanWest did anything...but I'm very willing to stand corrected, if you could help me out?
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posted 19 June 2003 03:36 PM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's kind of a backhanded, coded admission.

Too bad the cat's dead.


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posted 19 June 2003 03:38 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's just too easy.
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WingNut
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posted 19 June 2003 03:39 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The cat is dead?
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Briguy
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posted 19 June 2003 03:45 PM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[not-so serious gripe, seasoned with a hint of wishful thinking]

Can we invent some sort of policy about not promoting your own work on babble? Please? I am so sick of the effluent Mr. King.

[/gripe]


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lagatta
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posted 19 June 2003 03:49 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Mycroft, jokes about feline demise are in VERY questionable taste ...

Hmm, authoritarian anti-globalist?

"As for Car Stories, "running" may be overdramatizing. The show is a tony by-appointment-only affair that takes place inside an old bazou parked at a secret location. An authoritarian anti-globalist, King limits his audiences to three at a time, loads them into the back seat and snaps shut the child-proof locks until the fat lady sings.

Car Stories got booted out of the 2001 Fringe when Optative's experiment with media activism backfired, belching so much publicity smoke that the brilliance of the idea to do this sort of street performance vanished with the hot air. King has a long memory and he's had his lab assistants documenting My Ouster From The Fringe as a roman-fleuve.

Car Stories were left to gun their engines outside the perimeter last year and follow the same script this week."


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posted 19 June 2003 04:05 PM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Mycroft, jokes about feline demise are in VERY questionable taste ...

Who's joking? I would have liked to have met him.


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WingNut
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posted 19 June 2003 04:12 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When? When did the cat die? Why wasn't I told?
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posted 19 June 2003 04:30 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i think we need more threads discussing CAR STORIES ... three in the last few days is simply not enough
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Michelle
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posted 19 June 2003 04:43 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is not "news". I suppose I'll hold my nose and put it in the arts and culture forum, seeing as we don't have a public masturbation forum.

[ 19 June 2003: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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WingNut
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posted 19 June 2003 04:51 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
THE CAT BEING DEAD IS NOT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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skdadl
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posted 19 June 2003 05:32 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Could someone please tell me that the cat didn't die after all? Otherwise, I can't bear to read any further.
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clersal
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posted 19 June 2003 06:47 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jerome is looking for a summer job if the cat's dead.
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posted 19 June 2003 07:05 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The cat isn't dead -- but that horse certainly is...
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clersal
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posted 19 June 2003 07:08 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Damn. Should I get a horse?
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posted 19 June 2003 07:11 PM      Profile for 4t2     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Only for the purpose of flogging.
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clersal
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posted 19 June 2003 07:12 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A DEAD HORSE!!!!! YECCH.
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Timebandit
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posted 19 June 2003 07:18 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, come on, clersal... Lots of uses for a dead horse... Glue, dog food, maybe make a chair from the hide... Once PA's done flogging it, that is.
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Black Dog
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posted 19 June 2003 07:18 PM      Profile for Black Dog   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
This is not "news". I suppose I'll hold my nose and put it in the arts and culture forum, seeing as we don't have a public masturbation forum.

[ 19 June 2003: Message edited by: Michelle ]


Ooh..Speaking of flogging things: we should have a public masturbation forum. It would certainly be more entertaining than another thread about this stupid fucking play.

[ 19 June 2003: Message edited by: black_dog ]


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lagatta
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posted 19 June 2003 08:07 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
On the subject of wanking: in Québec we have a CAR STORY statement:

"Grosse Corvette, petite quéquette."


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clersal
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posted 19 June 2003 08:14 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When PA has finished flogging it there will be nothing left.
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Michelle
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posted 19 June 2003 08:51 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lagatta, please translate - I got every word except the last one, and I have a feeling that last word is the punchline...
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audra trower williams
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posted 19 June 2003 08:55 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
This is not "news". I suppose I'll hold my nose and put it in the arts and culture forum, seeing as we don't have a public masturbation forum.

Heh! And if we do, after I get back from vacation, you're all in big big trouble.


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lagatta
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posted 19 June 2003 09:05 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michelle, quéquette is Québécois slang for ding-a-ling, weenie, dink... just as silly and infantile as the former in English. The macho muscle-car owner is compensating for his perceived deficiencies in the genital domain.

Of course that saying was popular before the current wave of penis-extension spam...


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Michelle
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posted 19 June 2003 09:14 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I kind of figured that's what it was.
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al-Qa'bong
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posted 19 June 2003 09:25 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
"Grosse Corvette, petite quéquette."

I suppose "quéquette" scans better than "zigounette."

Then again, there aren't many Corvettes in Peugeot country.


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clersal
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posted 19 June 2003 09:42 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Heh! And if we do, after I get back from vacation, you're all in big big trouble.


Hmm, I thought you were on holiday? How come you are still hanging around? Trying to catch us up to no good? Heh, we are too smart for that. We post in invisible electrons. 100% recycled electrons. Hah.

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posted 19 June 2003 09:52 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
clersal, you are misconceiving audra's "vacation," obviously.

audra does not take a vacation to go away, especially not to go away from babble. She takes a vacation from being moderator in order to post MORE to the board. Do you see?


Hide your children and your fragile menfolk! The dreaded audra is now on the loose!


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lagatta
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posted 19 June 2003 09:54 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Clersal, is JEROME named for Saint Jerome, the patron saint of translators?

Saint Jerome is usually depicted slogging away in his study with his pet lion at his feet. No babble to distract him, but I suppose they had apparitions of angels, heavenly hosts etc.

The miracle is that Jerome's very large pet cat never jumped on his vellum manuscripts. Renzo has his paws right by my computer keyboard... inching closer....


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clersal
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posted 19 June 2003 09:59 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So skdadl, what you are saying is that audra is a sneak? Why does she pretend and give control to Michelle who we have paid off. Quite generously I would say. Another heh.
No Lagatta, Jerome was named by my oldest grandkidlet who doesn't know anything about saints.
He probably thought it was a 'cool' name.

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The cat died a natural death at 20 after a long and happy life.
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posted 19 June 2003 10:06 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Clersal! Shhh! You weren't supposed to tell!
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skdadl
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posted 19 June 2003 10:07 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by clersal:
So skdadl, what you are saying is that audra is a sneak? Why does she pretend and give control to Michelle who we have paid off. Quite generously I would say. Another heh.

Well, I mean, pretty much, eh? I think it was quite smart of us to pay off Michelle, though, eh?

No, I think that audra is sincere: she really wants two weeks of democracy for herself, posting without The Power, The Power, just to see what it's like. She's sort of like Peter the Great, going among his people disguised as a peasant, trying to figure out how they really think. Honestly, I think that's what audra is doing for her summer holidays.

And Mycroft: You have made me feel so much better. Now I can sleep. If all the kitties are ok, skdadl can sleep.


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clersal
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posted 19 June 2003 10:08 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Okay I won't tell. How much do I get?
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posted 19 June 2003 10:54 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
babble is more fun when you're not in charge of it
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Review of the Car Stories threads.

I laughed. I cried. They were the feel good threads of the year.


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posted 20 June 2003 12:18 AM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, we outdid PA. Babble is really good at these things. We all get on the same wave length.
It is fun.

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Come see "Truck Tales" at the Tisdale Fringe Festival this summer.
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posted 20 June 2003 07:46 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh my goodness! Michelle - better cover your eyes to the so-called "public masturbation." King has made a statement which is now circulating. I'd get a hold of those PDF files if in doubt.

As for the cat, OTL's Dr. Ropes passed away earlier this year. Here you can read the obituary announcement.

Speaking of announcements, Happy belated Birthday King! Hope you got through it OK with all the abuse from the FringeTM and other unsavoury types. Lets hope that next year on your birthday instead of being banned from the Fringe, that you will be running it.


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Performance Anxiety
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posted 20 June 2003 07:48 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
ps: Audra, as a bithday gift to King why don't you let him back on Babble? Surely you can both overcome your differences and make up.


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