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TemporalHominid
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posted 02 July 2007 11:36 AM      Profile for TemporalHominid   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I read what appeared to be a criticism on the alleged misogynist lyrics contained in music on another thread, with doubtful suggestions that just by just listening to lyrics about violence, and killing or raping, this will compel males to act out the content of lyrics. Some people claim lyrics are becoming more suggestive, that promoting violence against women is becoming more common for e.g.

Take these lyrics for example from one of the best selling albums of all time:

"Well I'd rather see you dead, little girl
than to be with another man.
You'd better keep your head, little girl
or I won't know where I am.

You'd better run for your life if you can,
little girl,
hide your head in the sand,
little girl,
catch you with another man,
that's the end,
little girl.

Well you know that I'm a wicked guy
and I was borned with a jealous mind.
And I can't spend my whole life
trying just to make you toe the line.

You'd better run for your life if you can,
little girl,
hide your head in the sand,
little girl,
catch you with another man,
that's the end,
little girl.

Let this be a sermon,
I mean everything I said.
Baby, I'm determined,
and I rather see you dead.

You'd better run for your life if you can,
little girl,
hide your head in the sand,
little girl,
catch you with another man,
that's the end,
little girl.

I'd rather see you dead, little girl
than to be with another man.
You'd better keep your head, little girl
or I won't know where I am.

You'd better run for your life if you can,
little girl,
hide your head in the sand,
little girl,
catch you with another man,
that's the end,
little girl."

who wrote these lyrics, and when, and in what context?

My point is that when people point to rap music as the culprit of disseminating hate and violence against women, they forget that these types of lyrics are not new in pop music.

Now maybe I am naive, but..

Rap artists, like many artists, comment on what they observe in society. They create material, that in context, shows what is happening in society, not how they want society to be. We may be uncomfortable hearing about the hate and violence they sing about, but they are demonstrating that these taboo issues are being ignored, and they are shining a light on the things that make us uncomfortable.

I have listened to Ani Di Franco, Bob Dylan, Phil Ochs and Neil Young lyrics. If anyone suggested these artists promote the acts they comment about in song, people would be vehemetly defending these artists. Ani Di Franco no more promotes violence and homophobia against GLBTs and females than the Rap artists promote violence against females in society.

I do not see any robust data that rap artists have an

intent ... to debase, devalue, depreciate or diminish another human being or to create an atmosphere of senseless violence. In fact, I see the opposite. The artists draw focus on these activities in society, comment on them, and demonstrate that we should not look away when violence happens in the community or society.

[ 02 July 2007: Message edited by: TemporalHominid ]


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