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audra trower williams
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posted 14 October 2003 01:31 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So depressing.
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posted 14 October 2003 01:34 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Title: Foundation
Log Line: The human race is put on autopilot by a scientist who has mathematically mapped out exactly how the world will run. However, the program goes awry with the arrival of an evil mutant bent on conquering the universe.

There's something we can do with Harris, Eves and McGuinty in this plot line -- I just know it!!

Apologies to all you Seldon worshippers.

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posted 14 October 2003 01:42 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Many of those don't sound so bad at all.
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posted 14 October 2003 01:48 PM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Title: Foundation
Log Line: The human race is put on autopilot by a scientist who has mathematically mapped out exactly how the world will run. However, the program goes awry with the arrival of an evil mutant bent on conquering the universe.
Writer: Jeff Vintar
Agent: William Morris Agency
Buyer: 20th Century Fox
Price: n/a
Genre: Science Fiction
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More: Writing assignment. Vintar will adapt from the classic book by Isaac Asimov. Created By’s Vince Gerardis will produce. Shekhar Kapur will direct. Vintar will write two screenplays that could be released as a single epic but will most likely become two films.

This frightens me. The Foundation series is a hallmark of Azimov's writing. A search in the internet movie database tells me that Vintar has only two previous scripts, neither of which I've seen. One is Long Hello and Short Goodbye (which I've not heard of) and the other is Final Fantasy...an adaptation of a mediocre video game. EEK.

Double EEK! Internet Movie DB link

Vintar is involved in the screenplay for I, Robot, which stars Will Smith, and will be released in 2004. I guess we'll see if he can honour Azimov's vision (although he's not the head writer...there are 6 writers listed, not including Azimov).


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Mandos
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posted 14 October 2003 01:53 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Final Fantasy the movie had precisely nothing to do with the games. There were not even four little guys jumping up and down after having defeated the lined-up baddies on the other side of the screen, nope. The movie wasn't all that bad. All about souls and Gaia-life-forces. I find it sappy but not unbearable.

Will Smith, eh? Playing what? R. Daneel Olivaw? Hmmm....


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audra trower williams
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posted 14 October 2003 02:25 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Title: Piece of My Heart
Log Line: Biopic of rocker Janis Joplin.
Writer: Anne Meredith
Agent: BWCS
Buyer: Paramount
Price: n/a
Genre: Drama
Logged: 10/3/03
More: Writing assignment. Lakeshore Entertainment will produce. Renee Zellweger will star in.

AUGH!


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posted 14 October 2003 02:34 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The though of anyone adapting Asimov's work for the big screen makes me shudder. Casting Robin Williams as the Bicentennial man? Ugh.

I could see Anthony Hopkins as Giskard. I can't think of anyone to play Elijah Balley though. As to Daneel????

Anyone?


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skdadl
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posted 14 October 2003 02:38 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
1. I'm not sure I entirely understand what's going on here.

2. But given that entry problem, why do you say "AUGH," audra? I loved Janis. Maybe the movie will be awful (most are, eh?), but isn't Zellwegger kind of ok? I know the super-intelligent book they should be working from, and will come back with title later.


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posted 14 October 2003 02:45 PM      Profile for Jacob Two-Two     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
AUGH indeed, Audra. This was the one that I liked:

Title: Untitled
Log Line: n/a
Writer: Charlie Kaufman
Agent: UTA
Buyer: Columbia Pictures
Price: n/a
Genre: Horror
Logged: 10/3/03
More: Spike Jonze will direct. Kaufman and Jonze will produce.


Boy, that sounds great!!


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audra trower williams
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posted 14 October 2003 02:52 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I dunno. I saw Renee "singing" and "dancing" in Chicago, and it left me really cold.
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skdadl
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posted 14 October 2003 03:03 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's probably true that singing like Janis -- well, that may just be a fast way to die, for anyone.

I wonder who could do it and stay healthy?

(Damn Flood Control.)


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paxamillion
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posted 14 October 2003 03:06 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:
It's probably true that singing like Janis -- well, that may just be a fast way to die, for anyone.

I wonder who could do it and stay healthy?


I know it's not me, and I don't even have to try to sing a note.


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posted 14 October 2003 03:24 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like Renee Zellwegger, but I can't see her as Janis Joplin at all. I've been trying to think who I'd cast, and drawing a blank. American actresses are practically all pretty, one way or another -- it may be a bland, conventional, uninteresting way, but still.

Of the women young enough to play Janis, I can't think of many who could convince an audience they'd had a hard life. And the big movie stars are just that -- stars, who act out a version of their public personas, rather than vanishing into a role. Bette Midler played a version of her in The Rose of course, and did it well, but that was over twenty years ago.

I think we'd have to go farther afield -- maybe to someone like Judy Davis (though -- sigh! -- there is no-one like Judy Davis). She can do American.

As for Will Smith, he's great, but does he have the gravitas for R. Daneel Olivaw? Maybe, but I dunno. I'd rather cast someone like Laurence Fishburne, maybe, or Samuel L. Jackson.


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Briguy
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posted 14 October 2003 04:17 PM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Skdadl - I'm just (clumsily) trying to transmit the deep rooted feeling of fear and annoyance that wells within me when I learn that Hollywood is going to produce a film from any of my favourite novels. I'd be much happier if I learned that the BBC was producing an adaptation of I, Robot or Foundation than with Hollywood doing it. At least we know that a BBC miniseries will devote the proper screen time to a book like Foundation (witness the two Dunes...David Lynch's monstrousity versus the BBC masterpiece).

Some of those projects, though...how do you get funding when you don't even have a plot? Or characters? Scary.


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posted 14 October 2003 04:34 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sarcasmobri, I concur 100%.

It just occured who would be a perfect R. Daneel Olivaw. Either Jimmy Smits or Esai Morales (the new Lt. from NYPD Blue). Daneel is described as having a burnished-copper skin, tall, and good-looking. Both these guys meet this description and they are both good actors.

In defence of David Lynch, the extended version of his Dune does a far better job of explaining the background than the theatrical release ever did. Was it a little weak? Yes. Was the Sci-Fi/BBC version a more faithful telling of the story? Yes (and thank Shai Hulud they made it six hours long). However, the David Lynch version did a better job on the Barons character and image. It also captured the splendor of the imperium far better than the BBC/Sci-Fi version. Oddly enough, the awful special effects seemed to integrate into the scenes far better than the effects did in the new one.

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posted 14 October 2003 04:36 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
At least we know that a BBC miniseries will devote the proper screen time to a book like Foundation (witness the two Dunes...David Lynch's monstrousity versus the BBC masterpiece).

The BBC's Dune was excellent, and I say this as a non-fan of the novel.

quote:
Some of those projects, though...how do you get funding when you don't even have a plot? Or characters?

Maybe they're just trying to interest one or another Hollywood star or director, which would attract some funding, which would allow them to develop a screenplay, which... Trouble is, there's likely no future in this idea, at least if you have anything particular you want to do with the movie, as opposed to just selling a screenplay for a jillion dollars or whatever. Which is pretty rare anyway. Screenwriting is reportedly a pretty lousy way to make a living, for most of the people who do it.

quote:
In defence of David Lynch, the extended version of his Dune does a far better job of explaining the background than the theatrical release ever did.

What I disliked about that movie was that so much of the background was "explained" in voice-overs. As a cinematic device, that's kind of weak anyway; but I found it made the film practically incomprehensible if you hadn't read the novel, which at the time I hadn't. I was watching on TV, not in the theatre, so perhaps I wasn't paying close enough attention. But maybe trying to cram that long involved plot into two hours or whatever was just too ambitious, like say Excalibur was.

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posted 14 October 2003 04:57 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I much preferred the Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohaim in the BBC. She was a real hottie there.

Memo to David Lynch, no modules are required to fight in the wierding way.

I really hope they tackle God Emperor of Dune.


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posted 14 October 2003 06:15 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
this one has me in a fit of giggles:

quote:
Title: The Akhnaten Adventure
Log Line: A pair of Manhattan twins' new wisdom teeth hold secret powers understood only by their Uncle Nimrod, who explains to them that they are actually genies. Their powers are put to the test in Egypt, where they must fight against an evil genie.
Writer: Philip Kerr (author)
Agent: A.P. Watt
Buyer: DreamWorks
Price: Seven-figures
Genre: Fantasy
Logged: 10/1/03
More: Upcoming children’s book by Philip Kerr. This is the first book in the "Children of the Lamp" series. Steven Spielberg may direct or produce the film.

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posted 14 October 2003 06:31 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Something to remember about a lot of these flicks -- many won't ever make it to theatrical release. Lots go straight to video. Some won't even get made, as it sounds like they are in various stages of development.
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posted 16 October 2003 08:56 AM      Profile for Michael Hardner   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A left-lib forum is invaded by rightist netskank clones and must be defended by a select group of moderators...
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posted 16 October 2003 09:04 AM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
On the eve of the human victory, Skynet, the computer controlling the machines, sends a Terminator (a cyborg made to look human) back to the year 2004 to kill Audra Estrones, a woman whose unborn son will become the human resistance leader.
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posted 16 October 2003 10:19 AM      Profile for Michael Hardner   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Strange. I actually got a bit of a chill reading that...


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quote:
Title: Lords of Dogtown
Log Line: A group of young California surfers take their style to the streets as skateboarders, thereby launching a whole new sport that defined a generation.

why make a drama film out of something that was a perfectly-good award-winning documentary?

quote:
Title: Life of Pi
Log Line: While traveling to America via a freighter, a sixteen year old Indian boy becomes shipwrecked in the Pacific. Left to fend for himself on a twenty six foot life raft with a hyena, an orangutan, a zebra and a Bengal tiger, Pi survives for a year through faith and strength.

i hope they don't screw that up. i haven't read the book, but my girlfriend bought it a month ago, and she's loving it.

quote:
Title: The Longest Yard
Log Line: A retired pro football quarterback is sent to prison and forced by a sadistic warden to lead a team of inmates against a team of guards.

oh, for goodness sake, that's direct from "lock-up" with sly stallone as the prisoner and donald sutherland as the warden.

quote:
Title: Magnum, P.I
Log Line: A former Naval intelligence officer becomes a private eye.

quote:
Title: The Watch
Log Line: Set during WWII, a team of inexperienced soldiers are sent to blow up a critical Nazi bridge only to discover that they are being hunted by Abaddon, a spirit of the devil.

you know who would be good to play that "magnum: p.i." ... that tall guy who played monica's boyfriend for a while on "friends"


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posted 16 October 2003 01:11 PM      Profile for Michael Hardner   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
quote:
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Title: The Longest Yard
Log Line: A retired pro football quarterback is sent to prison and forced by a sadistic warden to lead a team of inmates against a team of guards.
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oh, for goodness sake, that's direct from "lock-up" with sly stallone as the prisoner and donald sutherland as the warden.


In case you weren't joking, that's a remake of a 70s Burt Reynolds flick...


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skdadl, many Isaac Asimov fans dislike the hatchet jobs Hollywood has done to his stories and thus do not hold out high hopes for either I, Robot or Foundation.

If you want an idea of the hatchet jobs involved, "Nightfall" tops the list. Read the short story, then watch the movie. No. frigging. comparison.

"Bicentennial Man" wasn't that bad by comparison, but it still deviates fairly substantially from the short story, or from the novelization The Positronic Man done in collaboration with Robert Silverberg.

That having been said, I want to see Tommy Lee Jones as Salvor Hardin.

Here's an old thread on Usenet I posted on that discussed actors and movies
Another thread that came up in my search, although I didn't contribute to this one.

Some notes written regarding Asimov and movie rights to his stuff.

[ 16 October 2003: Message edited by: DrConway ]


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quote:
Title: Sweet Baby Jesus
Log Line: Set in 1969, Mary & Joseph are hippies and Bethlehem is a small, chicken-farming town on Maryland's Eastern Shore.
Writer: Steve Blair
Agent: Atty. Brad Small of Manatt, Phelps & Phillips
Buyer: Fable Factory Films (London)
Price: n/a
Genre: Ensemble Comedy
Logged: 10/5/03

I don't think that even deserves a comment

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Title: Untitled
Log Line: n/a
Writer: Charlie Kaufman
Agent: UTA
Buyer: Columbia Pictures
Price: n/a
Genre: Horror
Logged: 10/3/03
More: Spike Jonze will direct. Kaufman and Jonze will produce.

Oddly wnough I've heard about it. Apparently they are going to make the film that Kaufman's fictional brother was talking about in Adaptation. About the police officer who is chasing after a serial killer. But the Police officer has multiple personality disoreder and really IS the serial killer!

quote:
Title: Four Christmases
Log Line: A young couple, whose parents have divorced and married other people, find they have four parental households to visit over the course of Christmas Day.
Writer: Howard Gould
Agent: CAA
Buyer: Spyglass Entertainment
Price: n/a
Genre: Comedy
Logged: 10/10/03

How whacky!!! Dear lord......for some reason I can picture.....Andy Dick as the husband's brother.......Christopher Walken or John Voight (there in almost everything now )or maybe even Robert Duvall as the wild and eccentrically hilarious father (of which one I'm not sure) add a cast of nobodies, throw in a couple of fart jokes and some elderly woman getting a pie thrown on her face followed by Andy Dick being *so* whacky, and you got a grade-A hollywood comedy!

I want to know what year these films are coming out so I can throw myself in to the nearest cryogenic chamber with a card that says "I ate'nt dead" on it and skip the entire year. Even if I don't see them, the hype will still be around and annoy the hell out of me.

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quote:
I want to know what year these films are coming out so I can throw myself in to the nearest cryogenic chamber with a card that says "I ate'nt dead" on it and skip the entire year.

I dunno, rob, I suspect with some of them, you'd have to wait so long that you wouldn't have to bother with the cryogenic chamber. In that time you could learn to Borrow, inhabit the mind of a pigeon in Hollywood, and crap on the producer's head -- i.e., return the favour, only in advance, if you follow.


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I dunno, rob, I suspect with some of them, you'd have to wait so long that you wouldn't have to bother with the cryogenic chamber. In that time you could learn to Borrow, inhabit the mind of a pigeon in Hollywood, and crap on the producer's head -- i.e., return the favour, only in advance, if you follow.

I could do that. I'll have to make up my mind on whether I should crap on the producer or crap on the writer. We'll see..

Heehee lance, I just finished Carpe Jugulum so alot of bits are still stuck in my head. On to Men At Arms now...


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quote:
I'll have to make up my mind on whether I should crap on the producer or crap on the writer.

Oh, the producer, definitely. I mean, he'll already have crapped on the writer, or will end up doing so, as will the director, the stars, and probably the key grip and caterers.

quote:
I just finished Carpe Jugulum so alot of bits are still stuck in my head. On to Men At Arms now.

Enjoy. A month or two back, having finished one Pratchett or other, I realized I'd read all the Discworld novels. I felt a curious sense of emptiness, followed by a burst of impatience -- when will that bastard publish another, when?! I demand to know!!


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I used to feel that way about the Patrick O'Brien "Jack Aubrey" novels. Then he died.

And now Russell Crowe is playing him on the big screen. Aubrey, that is. I doubt an O'Brien biopic is forthcoming.

M Night Shylamamanamanam taking on Life of Pi? Oh dear. His movies are already interminably dull, what the hell will he do with a boy and a tiger on a lifeboat for 3 hours, I wonder.


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Enjoy. A month or two back, having finished one Pratchett or other, I realized I'd read all the Discworld novels. I felt a curious sense of emptiness, followed by a burst of impatience -- when will that bastard publish another, when?! I demand to know!!

try searching for recordings of plays based on the books. Have you picked up Monsterous Regime yet? It just came out a couple of weeks ago. I wonder if he'll ever come to Toronto for a book signing....ah well.

quote:
M Night Shylamamanamanam taking on Life of Pi? Oh dear. His movies are already interminably dull, what the hell will he do with a boy and a tiger on a lifeboat for 3 hours, I wonder.

The tiger will end up being an alien that can read Pi's thoughts. And the ending will show that Pi wasn't even ON the boat at all.

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