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Wilf Day
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posted 29 June 2007 04:35 PM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
FIFA U-20 starts Saturday:
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02:00 PM EDT FIFA U-20 World Cup on CBC: Poland vs. Brazil

Organizers expect the total spectator count for the tournament, which they are touting as the largest single-sport sporting event ever held in Canada, will eventually climb above the one-million mark with walk-up sales.

The U-20 World Cup is the second-largest event staged by FIFA, soccer's world governing body, after the men's World Cup.

The tournament — the soccer equivalent of the world junior hockey championship — has launched the careers of some of the sport's biggest names, including Diego Maradona, Michael Owen and Luis Figo

Ticket sales for the 2007 FIFA U-20 World Cup in Canada have surpassed the 940,000 mark, tournament organizers revealed at a Thursday night press conference in Toronto.

The 2007 FIFA U-20 World Cup runs from June 30 to July 22 in six Canadian cities — Victoria, Burnaby, Edmonton, Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal — and features 24 of the best youth teams from around the world.

The three-week tournament kicks off with games in Montreal and Ottawa with the final slated for Toronto.

The 24 teams are divided into six round-robin groups with the top two teams in each group, and the top four third-place teams overall, advancing to the second round.

Canada is in Group A with Chile, Austria and Congo, and will play its opening game on Canada Day against Chile in Toronto.

Strong tickets sales and a successfully run tournament could help Canada secure hosting duties for other FIFA events in the future. The Canadian Soccer Association publicly stated that it wants to stage a FIFA Women's World Cup in Canada.



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I thought Canada was interested in hosting the real world cup 2018?

This Article says no.

This one says maybe.

Ok - perhaps not.


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I thought Canada was interested in hosting the real world cup 2018?

I know what you mean obviously, but this isn't some minor tournament. It's the 2nd or third biggest international men's soccer competition in the world.

Canada is suddenly doing a lot better in soccer.


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posted 30 June 2007 04:14 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, thanks for the reminder. I explained the U-20 to my son yesterday (he hadn't heard of it) and he was thrilled at the thought of it. Now he wants me to see if I can get tickets to a match here in Toronto! So, I guess we'll see whether I can.

Edited to add: Hmm, looks like there are a few games possibly open. July 11th is looking good. Cheap seats still available ($27.00 each!). Not THAT cheap, I guess, but oh well.

[ 30 June 2007: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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The way Poland shut down Brazil was amazing. One man down and one goal up, they played defence more single-mindedly than I've ever seen. A dangerous tactic to move your players back so far, said the commentators. Brazil thought so too: "we've got possession, sooner or later we'll put it in." And watched in amazement as Poland kept clearing the ball away.

I just wish my father-in-law had lived to see this Cup. He started this youth tournament back in 1977: the inaugural staging of FIFA World Youth Championship was held in Tunisia from June 27 to July 10. The Tournament Committee was chaired by FIFA Vice-President Harry H. Cavan, who had spearheaded the creation of the World Youth Championship. Unfortunately he died of Parkinson's in 2000.

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Wow! Spain-Uruguay was certainly the match of the tournament so far.

Canadian goalie has message to soccer fans:

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For Canada to advance at the world under-20 soccer championship, the team will need Asmir Begovic to stand tall in goal.

That shouldn't be a problem for the six-foot-five 'keeper, according to Canadian teammate Will Johnson.

"He's the best young goalkeeper I've ever seen," said Johnson, an attacking midfielder who plays for Heerenveen in the Netherlands.

"I'm not just saying that. I think he'll be a (English) Premiership goalie for sure. Some of the saves that he pulls off in training, we almost have to stop the training so everybody can just be like 'wow."'

Fans will be seeing plenty of Begovic in July, with Canada and on TV and the Internet via including an Adidas commercial. The spot is part of Adidas' "Impossible is Nothing" series, in which athletes talk of obstacles they have overcome.

Born in Yugoslavia in 1987, Begovic was four when his family fled war-torn Bosnia. After seven years in Germany, they moved to Edmonton.

The commercial tells of how Begovic, as a child, played soccer inside his bedroom, because it was too dangerous to venture outside. He'd dive on his bed to make the save, either banging the ball off the wall or playing with his grandfather.

"I was so interested in wanting to be a goalkeeper and play soccer that nothing was going to get in my way," the goalie says in the ad. "Some circumstances might be harder than others, but there's always a way."

"The 'Impossible is Nothing' campaign does have a meaning to it, it's not just words that are on paper. ... It's a very cool insight into people, what they've dealt with in the past."

He hopes the messages may motivate some youngsters and help them get over whatever problems they may have.

He says the moves he made as a child helped mature him as he had to deal with different countries, languages and schools.

"It's tough but it's one of those things you have to deal with and get on with it. I'm glad I had those experiences now, it made me stronger."

Begovic is fluent in English, Bosnian and German and also speaks a little French. He speaks Bosnian with his folks.


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Well, the Chilean Diving Team certainly outplayed Canada tonight. They are sure to advance from the pool based on what I saw tonight (since there are no points being given or taken away for sportsmanship).
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quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
Well, the Chilean Diving Team...


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quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
Well, the Chilean Diving Team certainly outplayed Canada tonight. They are sure to advance from the pool based on what I saw tonight (since there are no points being given or taken away for sportsmanship).

No points taken away, but there should have been at least three yellow cards handed out to that bunch of floppers. Brilliant soccer players, but goodgawdalmighty I was ready to start a riot watching them flop about like a bunch of beached bluefish.


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Make or break time for Canada:
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The game
Austria v Canada, Edmonton, 5 July, 17.45 (local time)

Austria are determined to get their first victory on the board at the Commonwealth Stadium after a 1-1 draw with Congo.

The stakes

Canada have got a lot to prove after the Chile defeat and the Austria clash will go a long way to determining their fate at this tournament. Austria will be hoping to finish this encounter as strong as they started against African champions Congo as they went ahead early on but spent most of the second half on the back foot



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Who's through to the second round so far?

Argentina, USA, Japan, Nigeria, Mexico, Chile, Czech Republic, Poland, Spain, and -- amazingly -- Zambia.

Who's out for sure?

Panama, South Korea Republic, Jordan.

Still 11 teams trying for 6 spots. You never know.

After the last game tomorrow, six teams will be third in their group -- including Brazil, Uruguay, and North Korea, and maybe Canada.

Four advance. Which four?

The four best teams among those ranked third will be determined as follows:
a) greater number of points obtained in all group matches;
b) goal difference resulting from all group matches;
c) greater number of goals scored in all group matches;
d) Fair Play point system in which the number of yellow and red cards are evaluated;
e) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.

[ 07 July 2007: Message edited by: Wilf Day ]


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posted 08 July 2007 09:46 AM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The math is tricky, for tonight's four games.

Uruguay and Brazil are, it turns out, safe to advance no matter what.

Whoever wins Portugal vs. Gambia advances. A loss by Gambia sends them home. A tie means they both advance. Even a loss by Portugal lets them advance on goal difference unless they lose by three goals, falling behind Costa Rica.

Whoever wins Canada vs. Congo could advance. A draw sends them both home. If Congo wins, they're in. If Canada wins by 3 goals, we're in. If we win by less than 2 goals, we're out. If we win by 2 goals, it depends on the Portugal-Gambia outcome, see below.

Costa Rica isn't even playing tonight, but they're watching. With three points, tied with Brazil, but with two less total Goals For than Brazil, they're out unless:

a) Portugal beats Gambia, or loses by three goals, and

b) Congo and Canada draw, or Canada wins by less than 2 goals.

Got it?


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quote:
Originally posted by Wilf Day:
The math is tricky, for tonight's four games.

Uruguay and Brazil are, it turns out, safe to advance no matter what.

Whoever wins Portugal vs. Gambia advances. A loss by Gambia sends them home. A tie means they both advance. Even a loss by Portugal lets them advance on goal difference unless they lose by three goals, falling behind Costa Rica.

Whoever wins Canada vs. Congo could advance. A draw sends them both home. If Congo wins, they're in. If Canada wins by 3 goals, we're in. If we win by less than 2 goals, we're out. If we win by 2 goals, it depends on the Portugal-Gambia outcome, see below.

Costa Rica isn't even playing tonight, but they're watching. With three points, tied with Brazil, but with two less total Goals For than Brazil, they're out unless:

a) Portugal beats Gambia, or loses by three goals, and

b) Congo and Canada draw, or Canada wins by less than 2 goals.

Got it?


I think you're slightly mistaken about Gambia. They can still advance if Canada and Congo tie or if Canada wins by just a goal and Gambia loses by just a goal. (I think it will go to a coin toss at that point; both teams will be at -3 goal differential.)

Two of the six third-place finishers are eliminated. North Korea is done, as they finished with two points. Uruguay, with four points, is through. Costa Rica and Brazil (three points each with differentials of -1) are almost certainly through. So either Gambia or the Canada/Congo winner will be the fourth third-place finisher to advance.

Bottom line: Go Portugal! Score early and often. Then, go Canada! Score at least once, for heaven's sake.


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Originally posted by Fartful Codger:
I think you're slightly mistaken about Gambia. They can still advance if Canada and Congo tie or if Canada wins by just a goal and Gambia loses by just a goal. (I think it will go to a coin toss at that point; both teams will be at -3 goal differential.)

No coin toss yet. Next is Goals For. Gambia has only one to date. Since Canada needs to win by two goals ayway, Canada would have two. Unless, okay, if Gambia scored a goal while losing. Then we go to the "Fair Play point system in which the number of yellow and red cards are evaluated."
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Originally posted by Fartful Codger:
Bottom line: Go Portugal! Score early and often. Then, go Canada! Score at least once, for heaven's sake.

A one-goal win would leave our goal difference at minus 3, behind Gambia. Unless they lose by a goal and we score only the game-winner. Then we're in the Fair Play points.

And they say electoral reform is complicated!

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So, how many cards do the two teams have?
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Score 3 goals? The team has only had 2 shots on net in the first 2 games.
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quote:
Originally posted by Wilf Day:

A one-goal win would leave our goal difference at minus 3, behind Gambia. Unless they lose by a goal and we score only the game-winner. Then we're in the Fair Play points.

And they say electoral reform is complicated!

[ 08 July 2007: Message edited by: Wilf Day ]


Moot now. How come none of these teams that need to win to help Canada could pull it off? Scotland loses to Costa Rica in stoppage time (a tie there would have meant Canada would get through with a win of any description. Now Gambia, down a man for half the game, scores in stoppage time to beat Portugal and advance.

They're just so rude!


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Well, actually, Canada could still go through if they win by four goals. Oh, and if pigs fly...
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I think it was very polite of us to refrain from scoring on our opponents. I hope they appreciate what gracious hosts we were.
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Looking for silver linings, all four African teams advance.

Granted, Mexico should clobber Congo, but then again, you can never predict a World Cup outcome, that why so many fans keep watching. Nigeria vs. Zambia could be one-sided, but at least Africa can't lose. And as for Gambia vs. Austria, who is brave enough to bet on that outcome?

Will the big clashes be Brazil vs. Spain, and Argentina vs. Poland? Chile vs. Portugal? Who can say?


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(reply to Scott P.'s remark) Well, yes ... but we hit a few goalposts on the way. That was rude of us.

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Terry Jones, whose take on sports I often agree with, is less than understanding about Canada's inability to put the little white ball in the great big net.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Soccer/Canada/2007/07/09/4325132-sun.html

Having played sports at a reasonably high level, I do understand somewhat the pressure of big championships. But it rankles no end seeing Canadians not meeting expectations. I saw Canada play Brazil last year and Scotland this year in friendlies and they certainly showed more in those matches than they did in the three tournament games. Heck, had they played as well in the first two games as they did in the first half yesterday, maybe the results would have been different.

I've heard people argue that it's the Canadian psyche to be satisfied with less than excellence. I'm not so sure, but it does seem rare that Canadian athletes rise above themselves. I saw Perdita Felicien on TV this weekend and it reminded me about her spectacular fall in the hurdles in Athens. Maybe we just need better sports psychologists?


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quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
I think it was very polite of us to refrain from scoring on our opponents. I hope they appreciate what gracious hosts we were.

We weren't the only ones, were we?

When have you ever seen a soccer game with no score after full time, and four goals for one side in extra time?

When have you ever seen a World Cup of anything where Germany, France, England and Italy lose in the qualifiers to Scotland, Poland, Austria and the Czech Republic -- and either little Austria or the little Czech Republic will be in the final? After a neighbourly semi-final between them, like the other neighbourly Andean semi-final between Argentina and Chile?

You never know what will happen in a World Cup. Especially this one.


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The Congo is one of the poorest countries in the world. They must be proud of their team after managing two goals to nil against team Canada.
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