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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 18 April 2006 10:28 AM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Where to begin with this?

Tom Will Eat Katie's Placenta

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Tom Cruise is intending to eat Katie Holmes' placenta after his fiancée has given birth to their baby.

"I'm gonna eat the placenta. I thought that would be good. Very nutritious. I'm gonna eat the cord and the placenta right there," Cruise said in an interview with GQ.

The statement is the latest in a long line of outrageous comments that critics have called an ongoing publicity stunt.

Just last week the 43-year-old acting superstar revealed that his father was an abusive bully.

Following his latest statement, the GQ interviewer pointed out that it would be quite a task to eat a placenta as it is rather large.

"OK, maybe I won't," the star of the forthcoming 'Mission: Impossible III' retorted.

The baby, rumoured to be a girl, is due very shortly and the couple plan to marry in the North American summer.

Some believe that eating the placenta helps avoid postnatal depression, although that's a condition that would apply to the mother — and not the father.

Placentophagia, eating the placenta, is practised in many cultures, although it is less common in western society. In 1998 a British TV chef fried a placenta and served it to his guests.

Rod Stewart and his wife Penny Lancaster took their baby's placenta home and buried it in their garden.

Last week Cruise backtracked on previous comments that Holmes would not be allowed to scream during childbirth.

"It's basically just respecting the mother and helping to be quiet. Not the mother," the actor told chat show host Diane Sawyer.



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Stargazer
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posted 18 April 2006 10:44 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Christ this guy just keeps getting wackier and wackier...
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Reality. Bites.
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posted 18 April 2006 11:18 AM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And I think that's about as close as poor Katie's going to ever get to Tom doing any eating in that general vicinity.
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Stargazer
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posted 18 April 2006 11:21 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

Oh man, the sad thing is, you're probably right.


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posted 18 April 2006 11:33 AM      Profile for BleedingHeart   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One of my wife's flakier friends ate her placenta after her home birth. I believe she cooked it first.

This is an issue that causes considerable angst among the group who have an inclination to eat their placenta as many of them are also vegetarian.


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posted 18 April 2006 11:37 AM      Profile for andrean     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't think that eating a placenta is incompatible with being a vegetarian - nothing is killed to produce placenta, in fact, quite the opposite.
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 18 April 2006 11:49 AM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Reality. Bites.:
And I think that's about as close as poor Katie's going to ever get to Tom doing any eating in that general vicinity.

I wish we had an 'audio rimshot.' You deserve one for that.

bad-a-BING!


Seriously, though, one has to wonder if there are, um, underlying things going on with Cruise (other than the Scientology stuff, which is probably plenty).


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Stargazer
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posted 18 April 2006 12:27 PM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
hey careful! Tom likes to sue for less.
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posted 18 April 2006 01:50 PM      Profile for Andrew_Jay        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As it was causing sidescroll, and also given that it was about a year old, I've made an executive decision to loose the amusing and relevant cartoon that was posted here and replace it with the link instead.

Sorry Andrew, but it's for the greater good.

view cartoon here.

[ 28 March 2007: Message edited by: oldgoat ]


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posted 18 April 2006 03:54 PM      Profile for angrymonkey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"Having investigated the matter with my customary thoroughness, no small achievement under the circumstances, I can report the following facts: (1) chowing down on placenta doesn't happen often, but (2) it happens. May God have mercy on our heathen souls."

straight dope


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posted 18 April 2006 04:34 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by BleedingHeart:
One of my wife's flakier friends ate her placenta after her home birth. I believe she cooked it first.

This is an issue that causes considerable angst among the group who have an inclination to eat their placenta as many of them are also vegetarian.


I've been privy to conversations like that. It's actually quite funny and hard to keep a straight face, which you absolutely have to do because it's quite a serious issue to some people.

I don't think I'd ever be inclined to eat placenta. I did save Ms T's -- home birth, so we just popped it in a ziplock and put it in a freezer until spring, whereupon we planted a rose bush over it in the back garden. Heathiest darned rose bush you ever did see.


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posted 18 April 2006 09:34 PM      Profile for virge47        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What I find really unbelievable are some people on this forum even giving that lunatic Cruise any mention at all. I think this thread should deleted.
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Michelle
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posted 18 April 2006 09:40 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey, there are 65 other active threads to read if you feel like it. I don't delete threads just because some people might not be interested in them.
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virge47
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posted 18 April 2006 09:48 PM      Profile for virge47        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michelle I never expected a moderator to actually respond to my post regarding deleting it. I stated that more as a repugnance for that sicko,Tom Cruise.
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Michelle
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posted 18 April 2006 10:05 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, okay. I thought that was actually a request!
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posted 18 April 2006 10:24 PM      Profile for skeptikool        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
virge47
What I find really unbelievable are some people on this forum even giving that lunatic Cruise any mention at all. I think this thread should deleted.

How could you! How could Babble possibly compete with those supermarket tabloids?

[ 18 April 2006: Message edited by: skeptikool ]


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Kindly Wise
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posted 19 April 2006 07:49 PM      Profile for Kindly Wise     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Back in the 1970's, David Carradine (of "Kung FU" fame) and Barbara Hershey (who at that time had changed her name to "Barbara Seagull) had a baby, together that is. During the pregnancy they were very vocal about how they were going to eat the placenta. Then came the birth and they actually SAW the placenta, and abruptly changed their minds!

This reality check did not, alas, prevent them from naming their daughter "Free Seagull Carradine".


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Michelle
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posted 19 April 2006 08:52 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Heh. That sounds like a protest chant.
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Eating the placenta is supposed to be good for the mother because it's high in iron, helping compensate for the blood loss.

This thread would be incomplete without a link to placenta recipes.


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thorin_bane
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posted 20 April 2006 01:00 AM      Profile for thorin_bane     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK OK OK I can say the grossest things just to watch other squirm a bit, But really, eating...umm NO. About the only way I would eat it, is if it cured cancer, which I thankfully don't have right now so I won't be having any Broiled Placenta with a side of Southern Fried Ambiblical Cord
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Michelle
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posted 20 April 2006 06:52 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was fascinated with the placenta when my son was born. I wanted to take a good look at it before they took it away. It was kind of interesting-looking. But there's no way I'd eat the thing!
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steffie
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posted 20 April 2006 08:46 AM      Profile for steffie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
I was fascinated with the placenta when my son was born. I wanted to take a good look at it before they took it away. It was kind of interesting-looking.

Michelle -- So did I (have a good look at it) -- People told me that it was a good indicator of how many toxins had been filtered through it during the pregnancy.

A woman who gave birth near the same time as I did asked to see her placenta, and the doctors discouraged it (she was a smoker, and apparently it was quite black.) Mine, on the other hand, was pinky-purple with wonderfully thick blue veins roping around it. After seeing that, I felt sure that my baby must be healthy, too.

P.S. It was also HUGE! I'd say the size of a deflated basketball. The wonders of the human body, eh?


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posted 20 April 2006 08:53 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
steffie, haven't seen you around in a while. Nice to see you!

I didn't know that the placenta changes colour depending on smoking and stuff like that, although of course it makes sense. That's really interesting. Mine was also bright red and purple and kind of veiny. Although, I just looked up some images of placentas on google image search, and mine didn't look like those ones - it seemed to have a smooth texture to it, almost like there was a transparent skin over it, but the ones in those pictures appear to be very rough-edged. Kind of odd. But neat.

Well, this is probably the oddest conversation I'll have today.


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1ndiemuse
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I heard a great theory the other day about Tom Cruse using L. Ron Hubbard's frozen sperm to impregnate Katie. Seems more likely then him actually doing the job himself.
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Joel_Goldenberg
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I read the interview with Cruise- he was joking.

From canada.com

Cruise, 43, told GQ: "I'm gonna eat the placenta. I thought that would be good. Very nutritious. I'm gonna eat the cord and the placenta right there." When it was pointed out that it would be a big meal, Cruise replied: "OK, maybe I won't."

Asked about the comments by ABC's Diane Sawyer, the star replied: "Yeah, we're going to do that - a whole family thing. Isn't that normal and natural? No, we're not eating it."

[ 01 May 2006: Message edited by: Joel_Goldenberg ]


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I blame Heather Mallick. For what? For putting me on a Saturday morning celebrity news spree! (In her latest column she links to The Defamer, and it's been downhill from there for me today.)

Anyhow, this is interesting. I've always wondered just how fucked up Katie Holmes must be from living with such a freak. Not that I take Us Weekly as gospel or anything. But it's believable!

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When Tom Cruise lets his inner control freak get the best of him, there's one person Katie Holmes, 28, knows she can count on for a shoulder to cry on: her British best friend Victoria Beckham.

"Katie has been crying over the phone," an insider tells Us Weekly. "She's frustrated. Tom is denying her every single thing."

The insider adds: "Once, Katie and Victoria talked on the phone for four hours."

And Beckham has seen how domineering Cruise can be firsthand. A source close to the 44-year-old actor tells Us that he is relentlessly trying to convince the ex-Spice Girl, 32, and her husband, soccer star David Beckham, 31 (who are moving to L.A. this year), to convert to his religion.

"Victoria is sick and tired of Tom being on her back about Scientology," says the source. "Victoria is an old-fashioned British woman who believes in God. She finds it quite rude that Tom is bugging her so much. Not too long ago, Tom left 18 messages in one hour to get them to join the church."


18 messages in one hour? Dude. To me, that would be, like, restraining order time.


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posted 24 March 2007 07:20 AM      Profile for TemporalHominid   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
there is a board game I enjoy playing, it is called "Cults Across America"

Scientology and Cruise's antics are more surreal than this game.

The Boardgame of Cthulhoid Domination


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posted 24 March 2007 08:54 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by TemporalHominid:
there is a board game I enjoy playing, it is called "Cults Across America"

Scientology and Cruise's antics are more surreal than this game.

The Boardgame of Cthulhoid Domination


A Lovecraft game!?

By the Black Goat's thousand young! How has this sneaked below my all knowing nerd gaze?


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I have never eaten placenta, but it strikes me as odd that people are willing to eat the flesh of poorly treated animals, but are grossed out by eating something that is produced organically within the human body.

I had a friend in elementary school whose family ate the placenta of her younger sibling, apparently the mom put in with spaghetti sauce like you would with ground beef.

There's no health reason not to eat a placenta.

Apparently most mammals, including herbivores, engage in the practice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placentophagy

Here's sme recipes: http://www.mothers35plus.co.uk/plac_rec2.htm

And apparently its an ingredient in some chinese medicines: http://www.news-medical.net/print_article.asp?id=1333

quote:
Placentophagy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Placentophagy is the act of mammals eating the placenta of their young after childbirth.

The placenta contains high levels of prostaglandin which stimulates involution (an inward curvature or penetration, or, a shrinking or return to a former size) of the uterus, in effect cleaning the uterus out. The placenta also contains small amounts of oxytocin which eases birth stress and causes the smooth muscles around the mammary cells to contract and eject milk.



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Strangely, this doesn't bother me either. I read a book not that long ago by a naturopath that recommended eating the placenta to increase health via immunity.
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posted 25 March 2007 03:11 PM      Profile for Steppenwolf Allende     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, it's obviously true that fame isn't everything. It obviously can lead to serious mental problems for some people.

So Tom Cruiser wants to eat a placenta. Seems like he's been eating a lot of mushrooms lately, so why not?

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Just last week the 43-year-old acting superstar revealed that his father was an abusive bully.

Hmmmm....Probably punched him in the head one too many times.


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posted 28 March 2007 10:23 AM      Profile for M.Gregus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Since it was determined that he was joking about eating the placenta, I guess it's safe to assume Cruise didn't end up consuming it. With all the speculation around the issue, there never was a follow-up with him, to my knowledge!

What's the standard procedure of dealing with the placenta in a (Canadian) hospital setting? Aside from requests for viewing, is it normally discarded? Can someone ask to take it home with them, no questions asked? The discussion here has raised these questions for me...

[ 28 March 2007: Message edited by: M.Gregus ]


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quote:
Originally posted by Dana Larsen:
I had a friend in elementary school whose family ate the placenta of her younger sibling, apparently the mom put in with spaghetti sauce like you would with ground beef.
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Hey, I wonder if there's a market for "Placenta Helper".

Always thinkin', thinkin', thinkin'...


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posted 28 March 2007 01:18 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've been up close and personal to the presentation of two placentas, myself. Pretty interesting, and in no way was I grossed out. I was of course a bit more focussed on my cute new babies.

I can see where placentas would be very full of nutrition, and the practice of the mother consuming it would pro adaptive from an evolutionary point of view for all mammals. I've been aware for some time of the practice of placenta eating, and my attitude is "whatever floats your boat", but I think I'm safe in speaking for Mrs. oldgoat when I say we'd be inclined to decline.


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My first childs placenta was wisked away (propably sold) and I was too late asking the hospital for it, so when my second child was born at home I said I wanted it, but as my husband was rather discusted, and I was rather tired, it went quickly into the freezer. As my husband was home 24-7 I never realy got a chance to look at it, and it was eventually put under a new rose bush. I would have liked a good poke at it, and maybe a bit fried up probably just for a taste. However I still think it's a bit strange for the babies father to be that keen on it.
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