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Hephaestion
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posted 04 March 2006 09:11 AM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 


Oscar nominee snubbed by old school over "Brokeback Mtn" role

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Michelle Williams may be up for an Academy Award but her former school wants nothing to do with its most famous alumna. Williams, 25, is nominated for best supporting actress for her role in "Brokeback Mountain" a role Solana Beach's Santa Fe Christian School says promotes "the homosexual lifestyle".

"We don't want to have anything to do with her in relation to that movie, the school's headmaster Jim Hopson told the San Diego Union-Tribune.

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"I hope we offered her something in life. But she made the kinds of choices of which we wouldn't approve. 'Brokeback Mountain' basically promotes a lifestyle we don't promote. It's not the word of God," Hopson told the paper.

Williams' mother, a co-founder of the Christian Community Theater, doesn't share Hopson's opinion. "He never knew her," Williams told the Union-Tribune. "For some people, 'Brokeback Mountain' is difficult. He has the right to his opinion."

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"I know her heart, her kind soul," Williams said. "Nothing she's done as an actress has bothered me."


Would'a been nice if momma could've said, "there's nothing wrong with the story she played a part in, and Mr. Hopson is an ignorant bigot." But then, her daughter is Heath Ledger's wife, the same person who earlier made homophobic remarks about watching her husband kiss his co-star, and maybe momma was like her daughter, and was "creeped out" with the whole idea.

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posted 04 March 2006 09:44 AM      Profile for Sifo-Dyas     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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JPG
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posted 04 March 2006 02:12 PM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does anyone really think that Brokeback should win Oscars. I watched it last night, and I wasn't all that impressed. It was just another love story. I must admit that the end was pretty powerful stuff (I won't spoil it for anyone that didn't watch it), but other than that, it was pretty slow. I've never really been the love story type, but I think it's been hyped up too much.

I'd much rather see "Good Night and Good Luck" clean up. That was awesome. Haven't watched "Capote" yet, but i will tonight (after getting my hockey fix). "Crash" was pretty good, although it was very depressing. I haven't seen Munich either.

Thoughts on the Oscars anyone?


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posted 04 March 2006 04:10 PM      Profile for steffie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just watched "Crash" the other night, and liked it alot but missed the very end. Did anything happen during the last musical interlude?
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posted 04 March 2006 10:46 PM      Profile for koan brothers     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Gore Vidal on "Brokeback"

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Look, homophobia is fed into every child in the United States at birth. It is unrelenting, it never lets up. They asked a whole raft of high school boys across the country a couple years ago, one of those polls about what they would most like to be in life, and what Ö they would hate to be, and so forth, and what they would most hate to be was homosexual.

There wasnít anyone, not one, who just skipped the question. They all said ďoh no, thatís the worst thing you could be.Ē

To get over that training, thatís generation after generation. And it has not done the character of our nation much good. And thatís why we are a joke to the rest of the world, because we carry on about sexual matters everyone else has forgotten about.



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Hephaestion
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posted 04 March 2006 11:26 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks to the link to that interview. Gore Vidal rawks! And he's *completely* right about the homophobia being inculcated from birth. It's a real shock to find out that *you* are gay, when you've been told since Day One that it's sick, evil, peverse, etc. Self-hatred plays no small part in the shocking rate of suicides and attempted suicides in the LGBT community, for which we can thank the wider society.
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N.Beltov
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posted 05 March 2006 12:00 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just saw this excellent film. However, I haven't seen many, if any, of the other nominees so I wouldn't venture a judgement about whether it was deserving of particular oscars or not.

A slice of life, it was, to me. Truthful. My neck's a little sore from sitting in a front row right now. The setting and scenery reminded me of a few spots on Vancouver Island I knew as a kid. The laconic cowboy is someone I know well and the part was played very well.

This film is bigger than a "gay" love story and if those goddam homophobes don't want to watch it then it's their loss. Maybe they'll choke on their own nasty bile instead. 5 stars.


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anne cameron
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posted 05 March 2006 10:12 AM      Profile for anne cameron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
C'mon back home, N. Beltov, all is forgiven!! Return to the rock, we love you and miss you.
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skdadl
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posted 05 March 2006 10:24 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
koan brothers, thank you for the link to Gore. What a guy! I love that man. It is always so wonderful to listen to him again. May he go on forever.
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N.Beltov
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posted 05 March 2006 10:50 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for the nice remarks, anne. It's mainly just about money, work and so on. But I still visit now and then.

A small observation about Brokeback. My favourite writer, outside of those whose mother tongue is English, is a Kirghiz writer named Chinghiz Aitmatov. Aitmatov wrote about sheep herders in the Tien Shan mountains (among other topics!) His heroes were, mostly, Kirghiz women. [Which makes sense - since after his dad was killed in a Stalinist purge he was brought up by grandmothers and women figure as his typical literary heroes.] There's a similarity in the theme of forbidden love in Aitmatov's greatest love story, Jamila and Brokeback. Louis Aragon called Jamila the "most poignant love story in the world". Aitmatov's women, like Jamila, overcome great obstacles in the way of their happiness. Those who liked Brokeback might enjoy Aitmatov's Tales of the Mountains and Steppes. I did.

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