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ian gregson
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posted 07 March 2005 12:31 AM      Profile for ian gregson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Wow I just saw the ad for Dr Who on CBC this week !!!

I hope it is better than mini series that was shot here in Vancouver with Sylvester McCoy.

The new doctor is Christopher Eccleston who came to my attention in "Our Friends in the North " mini series some years back.

Any Dr Who fanatics out there ?

Looks like April 5th will be time to meet up with our fave Time Lord....

BBC Dr Who Official Page

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posted 07 March 2005 03:14 AM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Or perhaps today. Episode 1 has been leaked onto the internet. Now, if it will just finish downloading I can finally tell you if all the fuss is worth it. I hope so.
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posted 07 March 2005 07:31 AM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
a cute article about a dr who fanatic's reaction to the return ...

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The first episode of the new series, by Russell T Davies, writer of Queer as Folk and Doctor Who's new creative director, will be screened at the end of this month. Each episode is an hour long (they used to last a mere 25 minutes), and the stories are self contained (an end to those cherished cliffhangers, in other words). It will feature the latest whizzy technical effects, so no more hammy duels between men in weird make-up and Bacofoil suits in Surrey chalkpits. But in many other respects, the old Doctor Who endures. Theme tune? Tick. Tardis? Tick. Scary monsters? Tick, tick.

Fine, but if the new Doctor Who is so modern and realistic, how do the Daleks - whose devilish plans could always be stymied by a flight of stairs - fit in? Davies cackles: 'Our daleks fly like bastards. That's all I'll say.'

Davies is a devoted fan of Doctor Who. Long ago, in another life, he published a Doctor Who novel, and the young hero of Queer as Folk, you may recall, used to sit in front of his video recorder, shouting: 'I bring Sutekh's gift of death to all humanity!' (Then he'd go off and have rampant sex.)

'It's charming and funny and very British because it's all about saving the world on a shoestring - or even a piece of string and a bottletop,' says Clayton Hickman, the 28-year old editor of Doctor Who magazine. His circulation - it currently hovers at around 30,000 - is, he tells me, on the rise. 'They're like lapsed Christians. They're all coming back!'



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posted 08 March 2005 04:08 PM      Profile for H Ergaster   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Ah, I loved Doctor Who. Remember when YTV reran all episodes (well, all the ones they had) from the very beginning? Good times, good times.

Which miniseries is this? Do you mean the TV movie that starred Sylvester McCoy for the first bit until he regenerated? Bleah. Car chases! Special effects! Unworthy of the Doctor's legacy.


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posted 08 March 2005 08:58 PM      Profile for Nanuq   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
How many regenerations is he up to now? Didn't they say at some point that 12 was the limit for Time Lords or have they worked around that somehow?
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it's not a new miniseries. it's 13 1-hour episodes, and depending on the ratings in the UK, they'll have a second series as well.

as for regenerations, i've never understood why people thought that william harknell's doctor was the first one. maybe he was already number 3? did they ever make that explicit?

assuming harknell was the original, there have been eight regenerations (we'll ignore the online animated richard e grant version), and the valeyard (from the colin baker years) will be one of the remaining four.

so, even if the series comes back big-stylee, only 3 more actors after ecclestone.

of course, the master found a way around this small problem. show off.


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posted 09 March 2005 08:27 PM      Profile for H Ergaster   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
No, no, I wasn't referring to the new episodes, but to this:

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I hope it is better than mini series that was shot here in Vancouver with Sylvester McCoy.

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posted 09 March 2005 09:16 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Oh, the TV movie? The new series is better by FAR than that train wreck.
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some of the bbc's dr who broadband clips ...

it's not on here, curses, but the BBC is beginning to play a full 30 sec teaser trailer for the show, not these 7 sec blips. it's got ecclestone talking to the camera for most of it, striding around the TARDIS, and basically saying "watch the show, and you'll be carried away on an incredible adventure."

they're really making a play for the generation that never experienced dr. who.

my girlfriend asked me what TARDIS stood for last night, and i think she got very scared that i knew. ha ha.


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posted 20 March 2005 08:37 AM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
a mainly negative review of the new series ...
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posted 20 March 2005 09:35 AM      Profile for aRoused     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Boy, sour grapes.
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As for the cast, Billie Piper is an excellent companion as Rose, but as the Doctor rarely is Christoper Eccleston allowed to be anything more than a goofy, otherworldly buffoon.

So..just about the same as McCoy, Baker2, Baker1 (at times), Troughton...?

Now I wish I could get realplayer video past the school's firewall..


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posted 20 March 2005 09:52 AM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Best theme music ever.
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Ya, the music is pretty cool and for some reason I can't help but think of Dr.Who when I listen to Dada Pogrom. Weird yes.
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'Doctor Who' Culprit Fired

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A Canadian TV worker has been sacked after a brand new episode of sci-fi series Doctor Who was leaked onto the internet. The 45-minute episode, entitled "Rose," appeared on the web on March 7, three weeks before the series was due to premiere on British TV channel BBC One. BBC Worldwide claim its broadcast partner in Canada, the Canadian Broadcasting Company (CBC), harbored the culprit who had access to an preview copy of the eagerly awaited first episode. BBC bosses remain tightlipped about the identity of the individual to blame, but revealed that the person worked for a "third-party company in Canada". BBC Worldwide, which is taking legal action, released the following statement: "After a thorough investigation by BBC Worldwide's Canadian broadcast partner, the source of the leak of episode one of the new Doctor Who series has been traced to a third party company in Canada which had an early preview copy for legitimate purposes. The individual responsible for the leak has had their employment terminated by that company as a result. BBC Worldwide is considering further legal remedies and takes extremely seriously any unlawful copying or misuse of its copyright material."

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Saw Christopher Ecclestone last night on BBC's Film 2005 with Jonathan Ross. Very good interview, and they showed a teaser clip of future episodes, mostly focusing on the various beasties the Doctor will be facing. Not sure how many of those are on the teasers from the BBC 'site (which I can't get past the firewall), but these are not your 'man in green-painted bubblewrap' monsters. I'm talking fanged winged beasts dropping onto people and.. eating them? Even the Dalek looked like trouble, more like a small tank than the hopped-up salt shakers of yore.

I'll report back again tomorrow after I've watched the episode tonight (no spoilers, don't worry).


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The BBC Doctor Who site is being updated regualary in the runup to tonight's UK TV premiere. Nicely done video/radio clips page. For someone who never saw Who in the old days, I've become a convert, buying classic DVDs and tapes. Can't wait for April 5th.
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The new series premiered on BBC One yesterday. Here is the Guardian's review:
Carry on Doctor
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It is unfair to review a restaurant on opening night, but an event as important as the return of Doctor Who after a hiatus of 15 years (not counting the ill-fated 1996 US TV movie co-production, to which BBC executives have the same regard Stalin had for Trotsky) is of such importance to millions of fans around the world that instant judgments are required.

The good Doctor is most definitely back... and many traditionalists are going to greet this radical new version with utter dismay.



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Yeah, that Guardian review was the one I termed 'sour grapes'.

Sorry for the delay, babble was down when I tried yesterday.

The first episode was good, but it had problems, too. That being said, I'm not going to give up on the series. I'd challenge any Star Trek fan to go back and watch 'Encounter at Farpoint' without curling up into a fetal ball of agony at the bad script, acting, costumes, etc.

The good stuff:
Christopher Ecclestone is going to make a great Doctor. He's got into the idiom of Tom Baker (high praise indeed), and can handle action sequences that earlier Doctors just couldn't (whether that be for reasons of age or just from wearing too many layers of duffle coats and scarves). He's also proved that he's got more acting range than at least some of the previous Doctors did. The special effects were excellent and of a quality that DW always deserved but never got in the low-budget-pre-CGI days. I've never seen the original Autons episode(s), but there was enough material in the script alluding to events in those episodes that it should satisfy serious enthusiasts. Brits talk about watching DW while hiding behind the sofa, they were so scared by the monsters. It's going to get even scarier now that the monsters aren't visibly made of plastic sheeting.. The film quality is also up to modern standards, so things don't look like they're being shot on a BBC sound stage, and they'll use familiar locations (the London Eye, Trafalgar Square) in ways that just never happened in previous incarnations. This helps ground the series in the present day modern world. Finally, the script had a few rough patches, but overall managed to convey a lot of wit (and give me a break, the 'armless' line was pure Doctor Who wit), but also the kinds of dramatic mood shifts the Doctor is known for: goofy and joking one minute, a towering pillar of righteous fury the next. (Okay, I've overcooked that, but you know what I mean, think of Tom Baker needling a Dalek guard before staring down Davros himself and daring him to blink)

The bad stuff:
It's all very rushed. Obviously this is a series that's lain dormant for 15 years, they've got to bring new viewers into it and bring them up to speed on the Doctor, and do it in an hour, so the first episode has a lot of ground to cover. That being said, earlier shows were serialized over 3+ half-hour episodes, so a 'typical' storyline would be resolved in 1.5 hours instead of one. I'd never realized before how much that extra half hour helped, just from giving a bit more time to build tension (as the Guardian reviewer aptly noted). With a bit of luck, this'll sort itself out as subsequent episodes don't have to waste time on the 'getting to know you' scenes.

Overall, I'll be back next week for the next episode. I think it's a winner.


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Actually, if you watch Doctor Who from the 1960s the production standards were quite high. A number of episodes have very nice camera work and they did make good use of locations in series that were set in London. It was the switch away from film and to video (and colour) in the early 1970s that coincided with a severe drop in production quality.
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i'm making the blind-faith assumption that the series will get better than the first episode.

i'm filing it under, "i liked it ... but":

- i agree that 45 min is way too short. i also couldn't quite figure out why ecclestone had so many goofy grins. i mean, i counted about 10. 7, fine, 10, um, a bit slapstick.

- in the same vein, there is a 1-min sequence where he flips through an entire paperback book, says "rubbish ending," flips through a british gossip magazine, says "that'll never work, he's gay and she's an alien", and sprays a deck of cards around an apartment kitchen. having two of those things in a minute, debatable. having three, slapstick.

- the doctor's companion's mother's character is a total stereotype: stay-at-home layabout, money-seeking, shopping-loving, throwing herself at an attractive man who comes by the apartment. what's the deal with that?

all that being said, the writers will get to know how ecclestone plays the character, so i hope that by episode 4, things will smooth out.


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Mycroft: Good point. My excuse is it's been 16 years since I've seen a Hartnell or Troughton episode!
Wizard: To be fair, the book-flipping took place in the background while Rose was onscreen foreground doing something else. I filed it as 'incidental comedy' (actually, I only caught the 'bad ending' line and then was distracted by Billie Piper...). As for the stereotypical Mum, gaggles of her clones walk by my window every evening about ten minutes after pub closing time, except on weekends when we get a second serving about 1:30AM...

Fingers crossed!


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Well, this bit of news on the Beeb tonite is not quite on a par with Wolfy-witz getting the thumbs up from the EU, but it threw me for another loop

*snip*

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Actor Christopher Eccleston has quit as Doctor Who after just one episode of the new series has been screened, the BBC has confirmed.
Eccleston, whose first appearance as the ninth Time Lord attracted around 10 million viewers, feared being typecast.

Talks are taking place to replace him with Casanova star David Tennant.

A second series of the new Doctor Who, which will again be written by Russell T Davies and produced by BBC Wales, has already been commissioned.

Billie Piper, who plays Dr Who's assistant Rose, is expected to star again.


Wow, that was fast! Fear of being typecast after one episode? Actually , I did wonder about this kind of concern on his part, but not so soon.

Oh, thanks for all the mini-reviews from everyone here.

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That was quick.

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Just to clarify, Ecclestone remains the Doctor for this entire season of 13 episodes and possibly an additional "Christmas special" (A British tradition of special episodes, not necessarily related to Christmas). He's just said he's not going to come back for a second season.
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if they're already negotiating with tennant, this was already coming, and it's just reached the media,

in other words, altogether now, "it's the end ... but the moment has been prepared for"

as for c.e., "the filming schedule was too grueling ... i didn't want to be typecast." if he sticks to that line, he'll never get another lead role in a TV series again. i think that ecclestone has shot himself in the

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Wow, Eddie Izzard as Dr. Who. Now that would be worth watching.


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Rowan Atkinson as the Doctor

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there's another briton who may have some spare time for acting after an event in may 2005 ... five points for the babbler who can identify this potential dr. who:


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Tony Blair
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My roomate who is quite an afficinado in the sci fi genre is dismayed by the trailers for the new Dr. Who. "It looks like crap" to quote him. I don't think he sees Dr. Who as a leather jacketed ruffian, more the Tom Baker nerdy sort. He fears pyrotechnics over story line. My only knowledge of Dr.Who is Tom Baker and I enjoyed some of it. This is odd for me, I don't usually like sci-fi, I view most of it as pretentious shite. Just get me started on 'The Matrix'!
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verdict on episode 2: much better. less slapstick, more good ol'fashioned detective work by the doctor. purists will still be offended for various reasons, most obviously, the soundtrack.

i think that i shall have to stop posting on dr who ... as i'll always be ahead of canada in the time stream.


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I think it's time for a trans Dr. Who.
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Hasn't there been?
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any rules against dr who being a woman?

after all, there was the rani and two incarnations of romanadvoratrelundar.

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I'd love to see Izzard as the Doctor (just consider how insane the Beeb's costuming department can be at times). Of course, with Izzard as the Doctor then it would only be appropriate if they could talk Tim Curry into playing The Master...


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if you aren't watching dr. who tonight on CBC, you really need to re-examine your priorities in life.
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Dr. Who? Who he?
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he who, that's who!

a quick primer:

- he's a 900-year old time lord from the planet gallifrey who fights squishy things

that's all you need to know!


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quote:
Originally posted by Willowdale Wizard:
he who, that's who!

a quick primer:

- he's a 900-year old time lord from the planet gallifrey who fights squishy things

that's all you need to know!


When I was a kid he was only in his mid 700s. Where has all the time gone?


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- he's a 900-year old time lord from the planet gallifrey who fights squishy things

that's all you need to know!

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When I was a kid he was only in his mid 700s. Where has all the time gone?

Exactly _how_ old are you?


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Woo-Who! 10 minutes in and it's great!
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I love it! Neat effects, like the trash can swallowing someone and then belches!

I get to watch it from three time zones tonight.


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Killer window mannequins? It was bad enough that they used that plotline once before, but why are they recycling it? Maybe some sf franchises should be taken off life support.
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I've never seen the series before, so it's all new to me. Liked that belching trash can!
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BB- Lucky you, 3 time zones! Time travel, eh? I thought it was really well done, even for adults! Nice touch where the Doctor doesn't kill first, ask questions later. And the mention of all earth's toxic garbage attracting the "plastic" monster was appreciated. Very cool, all in all. So what if killer mannequins have been done before. Not like this.

Nanuq - Aww, don't be such a spoilsport.


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I only criticize out of love.
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I thought it was cute and remaking "The Terror of the Autons" was a nice way of reintroducing the series, I thought. The belching trash bin was a bit too broad for me but thankfully that was the only example of cheap humour (well, apart from the comment about the Auton limb being " 'armless" )

I preferred the Tardis interior from the 1997 tv movie though.


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BTW is anyone familiar with John Culshaw's impression of Tom Baker on the BBC series "Dead Ringers"? When I was in Britain I saw the tv version, it had Culshaw as Baker accompanied by a Zygon going into a real dress shop in order to buy the Zygon a dress for the prom.

Anyway, the best Culshaw bit is from one of the radio versions of Dead Ringers here

For more click here

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quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
I've never seen the series before, so it's all new to me. Liked that belching trash can!

Yes, same here. I may have a few fan written stories about Dr. Who, but I never really grew up with it.


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Great conversation here. I'm off now, to watch it a seond time, then the CBC news, and Dr. Who for a third time tonight - maybe. 'Nite, all.
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At the CBC Who sitethey mention:

"THE PLANET OF THE DOCTOR is a six-part documentary about the phenomenon of Doctor Who airing exclusively on CBC.ca starting in early April."

Does anyone know if this is the same program shown in the UK in the lead-up to the first episode?

Nanuq - Hey, criticize away. I figure anyone who's actually seen Doctor Who when it was first shown deserves to compare and critique. I've bought a few DVDs and tapes, but doubt it will ever bring back the original experience as a younger, aherm, person.

Lovin Rose BTW!


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Is that the same version of the theme song though?

To me the "ohh wee ohhhhhss" sounded less prominent.

Anyways I only have a few memories of doctor who, someof them before really conscious behaviour (probably 3 or 4). And the few "sick days" where I stayed home and got to see it during the day (I think there was a whole week where I actually got to see a whole pplot line!!). I also played Doctor Who in the backyard I remember. But I had no TARDIS nor any clue as to my actions.


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As a kid growing up in the 60' and 70's I can assure that this version of Doctor Who rocks as much as doctor ever has.

I spent more time hiding behind sofas during Dr Who than sitting on them.

My daughter who is 9 was hiding behind her sofa cushion within the first 10 mins of this episode :-)

Is there any truth to Eccleston not being around for the 2nd series ? I bet if this takes off like it deserves he'll be back for more.

I loved it.... and Eddie Izzard as the Doctor would be great also !


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Oddly I remember it as scary as a kid now its just campy. Was it always like that for adults?

ahaha


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Hawkins, in 1963 I don't think Dr. Who was broadcast by the CBC. The BBC, certainly, but I much doubt anyone here got it that early. Maybe a few years later. I never saw the original series.

Late in the 1960's I remember one of the toy manufacturers put out a diecast-metal model of the Doctor's call box/spaceship, and that got me intrigued. But, I still never saw the original series. If the original series is repeated I'll have a look for it. My parents never watched it, and as far as I know, neither did my two older brothers. I'll ask.

CBC link:
http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/drwho.html


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Yeah, Eccleston won't be doing a second series/season, to the point where the Guardian printed a letter from the show's producer chiding people for criticising this decision.

Personally, given that it's a show that ran for, what, 26 years?, to leave it after only one season is a bit of a betrayal. Sadly, it's quite typical of current British TV: in the effort to go out on top, they cut shows off too early, to say nothing of 'seasons' that last 6 shows instead of 18-ish.


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quote:
Originally posted by aRoused:
Personally, given that it's a show that ran for, what, 26 years?, to leave it after only one season is a bit of a betrayal. Sadly, it's quite typical of current British TV: in the effort to go out on top, they cut shows off too early, to say nothing of 'seasons' that last 6 shows instead of 18-ish.

If the CBC link which I posted is accurate, the show was NOT cut off; the lead actor (Eccleston) decided to leave after a year for fear of being typecast.


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quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
Hawkins, in 1963 I don't think Dr. Who was broadcast by the CBC. The BBC, certainly, but I much doubt anyone here got it that early. Maybe a few years later. I never saw the original series.

Actually, the CBC did broadcast the very first two seasons of Doctor Who - they were probably a year or two behind the BBC though (much like Coronation Street until recently)


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quote:
Originally posted by aRoused:
Sadly, it's quite typical of current British TV: in the effort to go out on top, they cut shows off too early, to say nothing of 'seasons' that last 6 shows instead of 18-ish.

When has it ever been otherwise?

There were only 18 Fawlty Towers, 18 AbFabs (until it became a U.S. co-production).


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Good point, but the Flying Circus ran for several years, to say nothing of Eastenders and Coronation Street. To be honest, 18 AbFab was about 19 too many, IMNSHO.

Boom Boom: Yup, that's the given reason. I was speaking loosely. Something tells me it takes more than a single season or two to typecast someone in a role.


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Thanks for the mention of Fawlty Towers (Faulty Bowels) and Monty Python - my two favourite Brit shows, although I like most of them (Coronation Street excepted - it's boring as hell). I loved _Are You Being Served_ and that crazy guy who had a show named after him, can't remember his name.
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Both my dad and my older brother watched Doctor Who. I watched it in the 80s as a kid.
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Well, I an two other devotees watched the CBC debut last night, and the verdict was: suspended. We need to see a couple more before making a definitive decision for ourselves.

I personally thought the main problem was that everything was telegraphed, and it moved way too fast for a Dr. Who plot. There was no time for technobabble or for Eccleston to really develop his incarnation. He seemed to grasp it for moments, but then *bam* they had to react to something or rush off somewhere. I found the belching garbage can egregious (gee, never seen that before), and the Nestine Consciousness, well, not Dr. Who somehow. It should have been made out of a giant garbage bag, with several stagehands obviously animating it from below. Also, the interior of the TARDIS was entirely too elaborate, and looked like the Doctor had visited Antonio Gaudi for the design. Not to mention the "good guy alien green" interior lighting.

Even after stating all that, I am still eager to see a couple more episodes.


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I also thought it went too fast, for an introductory episode. I've never seen the Who series before, so I really needed to watch it twice to catch all the gags and 'in' jokes that long time Who folks probably pick up right away. I think I'll like it, though. I already like the Police Call Box/spaceship.
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quote:
Originally posted by verbatim:
There was no time for technobabble...
It should have been made out of a giant garbage bag, with several stagehands obviously animating it from below.

Technobabble is great for the hard core but awful for introducing a new series to a new generation.


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Perhaps, perhaps. I have a hard time believing that a new generation will be interested in the Doctor, though, if he just looks like every other hyperadrenalined hero on TV, rushing from one CGI explosion to another.

I hear there are a couple two-part (i.e. proper length ) episodes coming -- perhaps those will be used to better effect, and allow some character development.

P.S. The Culshaw links were hilarious (especially the one where he calls up Baker himself). Thanks for posting them.


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quote:
Originally posted by aRoused:
Good point, but the Flying Circus ran for several years, to say nothing of Eastenders and Coronation Street.

Monty Python had a total of 45 episodes. 13 in fall 69, 13 in fall 70, 13 in fall 72 and 6 in fall 74. The equivalent of 2 seasons of an American series

Are You Being Served never produced more than seven episodes a season (or series as they refer to it). A total of 69 episodes produced over 12 years (they skipped 1980, 1982 and 1984)

Man About the House actually produced 13 episodes a year for its 39-episode run, but they were split into two cycles months apart that counted as separate series.

Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister produced seven episodes a year.

Blackadder series totalled 4 six-episode series aired over six years.

Eastenders and Coronation Street are soap operas and are more fairly compared to U.S. daytime soaps.

This is the way things have always been done in British TV.


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The interior of the TARDIS was entirely too elaborate, and looked like the Doctor had visited Antonio Gaudi for the design.

i think it looks more organic (coral seems to be the predominant metaphor in TV reviews) than before.


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When I first saw the interior of the Police Call Station/spaceship, I had no idea what I was looking at. What the hell is this? But after my first reaction, I begin to really dig it - hey, cool, man! Wish I had one of these!
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ARGH! I was traveling and missed the show because of daylight savings!!! Guess it's too late to download the leaked first episode off the internet?
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quote:
Originally posted by sci-fi girl:
ARGH! I was traveling and missed the show because of daylight savings!!! Guess it's too late to download the leaked first episode off the internet?

It is NEVER too late for that


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quote:
Originally posted by sci-fi girl:
ARGH! I was traveling and missed the show because of daylight savings!!! Guess it's too late to download the leaked first episode off the internet?

The second episode is also now available. I got it myself from www.demonoid.com - they have a fair bit of the old Doctor Who as well.


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quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
When I first saw the interior of the Police Call Station/spaceship, I had no idea what I was looking at. What the hell is this? But after my first reaction, I begin to really dig it - hey, cool, man! Wish I had one of these!

The controls are all fucked up, mind you. Apparently, he now needs to pump a bicycle pump to go anywhere.


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quote:
Originally posted by Doug:

The second episode is also now available. I got it myself from www.demonoid.com - they have a fair bit of the old Doctor Who as well.


THANK YOU for the web link. I had surfed around for a while but couldn't find a site to download the episode. I've downloaded but am now trying to figure out why I get audio only and no visual. A bit more help? I have to confess that I am a bit of a newb to all of this.


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You may need the Divx player.

www.divx.com


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VideoLan player is also a good choice.

Between DivX and videoLan there shouldn't be too many video formats you can't play.

edited to add The Core Media player should be added to your video player kit as well.

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Thanks for all the advice. I now have a visual!!! and am very excited. I'm off to watch my episode now.
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Seems pretty good so far. Clearly, they're writing in a lot of new backstory, with the Doctor's home planet Gallifrey having been destroyed, and him as the last of his kind - which is OK, as all but one of the stories set on Gallifrey were crap. As far as the twelve incarnations go, that can be easily mcguffined away - particularly if we're going to have one doctor a season.
I've watched quite a lot of the old sixties episodes of late - some of the Hartnells do indeed have surprisingly strong production values - the original TARDIS interior is great, and much of The Dalek Invasion of Earth is brilliantly realized for the budget involved.
Glad to have Doctor Who back - a good alternative to all those US sci-fi shows that are basically the Navy in Space.

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all but one of the stories set on Gallifrey were crap.

I wouldn't say that. War Games, The Three Doctors, The Deadly Assassin and the Invasion of Time were all good stories IMHO.


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Anyone see Doctor Who last night? Plenty of gift ideas in that episode:

quote:
My felicitations on the event of this historical happenstance. I give you the gift of bodily salivas.

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I give you in return the gift of air from my lungs.

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Last night's episode just plain sucked, although normally I like the Blue Man Group.
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I give you in return the gift of air from my lungs.

Believe me, those who get the gift of air from my lungs are quite grateful. Those who aren't, get Boom Boom's Wind pudding.


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I liked it. Should I have not?
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During last night's episode, I found myself dozing off after 25 minutes. Bor-ring! What were the _Blue Man Group_ doing in that episode?
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There are some interesting fan reviews at Outpost Gallifrey. I liked The End of the World episode. Sure you can find weak points in any Dr. Who series. I still think it beats any of the fictional TV coming out of the u.s. Yea, the blue man group came to mind for about 2 seconds, then I got back to the story. I liked Raffalo the plumber, nice little character sketch.
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I thought it was relatively "deep" for Doctor Who, touching on racism "I'm the last pure human, the rest 'mingled'... I call them mongrels" sayeth the piece of skin; capitalism, class etc.

And Zoe Wannemaker (from the BBC sitcom My Family) was hilarious as Cassandra ("moisturise me").

Some pretty witty dialogue too, I thought, as well as first league FX.

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Ha my opinion has been vindicated. I feel better now .
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I didn't get the second episode at all, but the third episode a couple of nights ago was fantastic. Charles Dickens! And actress Billie Piper in a 1869 period dress - *drool*. This episode more than made up for last week, in my humble estimation.
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is everybody noticing the references to "bad wolf" ??
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I am sad that there are no more Daleks .

Who is going to go through time and cause all the trouble .

I loved when they were on the moon base causing trouble. Silly Daleks


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"Blimey, I can smell the testosterone." -- Rose, observing the confidence votes in Parliament.

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I should mention that the BBC have been doing some interesting things on the web in parallel with the TV series:

http://www.whoisdoctorwho.co.uk/

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quote:
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is everybody noticing the references to "bad wolf" ??

Yep - and this week there's another one.

http://www.unit.org.uk/press/bombs.shtml


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I must say tonights episode was a little more scary than normal.

"Are you my mommy?"

Very little comic relief neither. At least the Daleks look fake-ish, .

Who are time agents?


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Hi Everyone,

I'm new here and from UK. Thought it best to come in on the culture thread....

I'm not a Doctor Who fanatic, but I watched the first two episodes of the revived series because Eccleston was in it....

I loved "Our Friends in the North "

The two episodes I watched of DW were good viewing.


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Last night's show was good, with a satisfying resolution; part 2 in the London blitz. The whole series seems well-written, and the characters are good. I only saw one or two episodes of the original series, but I guess it was pretty popular.
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If anything, the new series is an improvement on the old - and I'm a long term fan. The cringe-factor is now almost non-existent (ok, except for the poor CGI in the sequence where Rose dangles from a barrage balloon - that was really poor)
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Maybe it's like The Avengers; fun to remember, but there is a fair bit to cringe at when you watch them now; though I enjoyed seeing a young John Cleese seriously tiptoing around an egg museum; and as a murdered body, of course.
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It's kinda reverse-Avengers, given the awfulness of the movie remake from a few years back. I've never really had much of a cringe watching the Avengers, it's clearly of its period, and as such survives more-or-less intact - the ones that incite the cringe are the ones who tried to do too much on too little, such as the original Hitchhiker's Guide or The Prisoner - fantastic concepts rendered with a 25 cent budget.

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Hey, it's the cheap sets that are half the fun -- leaves room for character development.

I am quite satisfied with the new Doctor Who. There are also quite a few political snippets that are quite fun for a science fiction show. I've become rather sick of the US in space motif of Star Trek, which is why I liked that the Federation of the new Star Wars movies are the baddies (or phantom baddies).


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posted 30 June 2005 12:56 AM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Not a great series closer, but on the whole a great return series. The fact that the Doctor spent most of the forty-five minutes building a weapon that he obviously wasn't going to use, and Rose went all deus ex machina (noticeably only returning Jack to life, and not all the other dead people) undermined the storyline.
Still - the new guy, David Tennant looks good.

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yeah the closer sucked a little.

i would have liked to know how the doctor survived the time war or what they did...

and i think they have been building that "doctor the killer" theme through the whole series so it did need to be culminated. but the whole rose part was what I felt was a let down (that and the invulnerability of the daleks, which they didn't need given their superior numbers).

I didn't understand the "bad wolf" bit... that was a let down too.

BUt they luv each other, awe... that's going to be annoying next season no? "I loved the last doctor who are you!?!"

edited to add: i think eccleston did an excellent job, he felt very natural in the role. though his last few lines of the season sucked a tad given how much i liked his character.

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I liked the end alright, though I will miss Christopher Ecclestone. I suppose Jack will show up again next season, but maybe there will be trouble because she shouldn't have brought him back?

So who's David Tennant? Has he been in anything we might have seen here?

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The best Doctor was Pertwee ... Baker was definately acceptable but not quite as good ... after that it went rapidly south and I doubt I'll be very impressed by any new incarnations. I'd rather if someone would run the old episodes.
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posted 30 June 2005 02:03 AM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I loved the end of Lynda with a Y. "Blink-blinkblinkblink*
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quote:
Originally posted by ceti:
I've become rather sick of the US in space motif of Star Trek, which is why I liked that the Federation of the new Star Wars movies are the baddies (or phantom baddies).

Interesting how people project allegorical meanings to that show (Star Trek). Roddenberry had some sort of unclear Marxist leanings of some kind so I think it's safe to presume that, given the nature of the Federation, what you're really seeing is Roddenberry's vision of an American dominated Earth that somehow became a democratic communism. But I don't know. I've heard some crazy stuff about the allegories in that series (including Ferengi as some sort of anti-semitic caricature etc).


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posted 30 June 2005 05:24 AM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
i would have liked to know how the doctor survived the time war ...

what would be nice is some sort of paul mcgann/david tennant "two doctors" special episode in series 2 or 3.

the two major TV series in the UK that tennant has been in are casanova and blackpool.

if you can find them, they're worth checking out. casanova starred some guy named peter o'toole as the old death-bed casanova and tennant as his youthful, extremely virile, version. blackpool was a murder-mystery where people occasionally burst out in musical numbers.

here's a good profile of tennant.


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posted 01 July 2005 12:22 AM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Contrarian:
I liked the end alright, though I will miss Christopher Ecclestone. I suppose Jack will show up again next season, but maybe there will be trouble because she shouldn't have brought him back?

So who's David Tennant? Has he been in anything we might have seen here?

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He'll be in the next Harry Potter movie in November as Barty Crouch Jr, although IIRC, Barty spends most of the book disguised as someone else - so that doesn't exactly help much.
Still, he apparently was great in Casanova, very Doctorish.


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posted 25 July 2005 05:08 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
sarah jane smith to return? can k-9 be far behind?

oh, and david tennant's new doctor who outfit, the, er, young scottish college professor look?


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Longity-long-long.
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