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CMOT Dibbler
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posted 09 May 2006 01:25 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
An aquantince of mine let us borrow his 24 box set. I've seen the first two episodes and I have to say, I'm not impressed. Jack bower is sullen and one dimentional, and while I've seen this "rogue agent bends the rules for the good of all" shtick on the X-files, Mulder and Scully were at least complex, likable characters. 24 dosen't seem to present me with anything except cadboard cutouts. Right now, I don't care whether senator whathisface dies. He's a dull and uninspiring character.
Should I keep watching?

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posted 09 May 2006 08:40 AM      Profile for Woodnymph     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Living without cable means that my mindless entertainment (of which I do require occasionally) must come from DVDs. Around here, 24 has been passed onto a number of households, ours included. After watching four seasons I'm still not sure if I like it, but it does the job.

It isn't character driven, but plot driven. I have no feeling for any of the characters but the teasers at the end of every episode drive me crazy, ensuring that I continue to watch it. Now that we've exhausted all of the seasons, I can't say I miss it.


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posted 09 May 2006 08:46 AM      Profile for Woodnymph     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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posted 09 May 2006 11:45 AM      Profile for Polunatic2   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Living without cable in the big city I am able to get 24 in Toronto. I started watching it this season at about 8:00 p.m. (what time does the series end?)

I have no idea what's transpired in the 1st four seasons but it wasn't hard to pick it up where I started. I don't have much any interest in watching the old ones.

Not only are the characters kind of flat, but the show itself is so unrealistic. They can get anywhere in 5 minutes. They can recover from near death experiences in a matter of an hour or two (or less).

But what I find fascinating is how the show is used as part of the ideological underpinnings of the War on Terror. For example, a few weeks ago, they were going to torture one of their own (for the greater good of course). It makes torturing the bad guys that much easier.

What I always like about the X-Files was that there was always at least two sides of every story. No matter how unbelievable, there was some pseudo-scientific explanation for a lot of the wierdness.

I can even get X-Files reruns without cable although I've probably seen EVERY episode at least three times.

I also got "hooked" on Jail Break a few weeks ago which had its season ender last night. I still haven't quite figured out what I missed in the 1st half of the season with the political intrigue.


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posted 09 May 2006 01:41 PM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There was a bit of discussion about 24 as entertainment, and 24 as political commentary / propaganda, in this thread. I also started a thread about the British series Spooks, which covers similar ground but has generally done a much better job of it.

And yet I've watched every episode of 24 since the start. It'd be interesting to go back and watch the earlier seasons, which I haven't seen since they were aired. I recall the first season as being the best, but when I think about it, it contained just as many of the cheesy soap-operatic aspects as subsequent seasons have. I watch it mainly as a guilty pleasure. Although it's apparently Rush Limbaugh's favourite show, it's not uniformly ideological.

The second season in 2002-3 featured a plot that echoed the buildup to the Iraq war, with an administration ready to attack a Middle Eastern country on the basis of fabricated intelligence. This season likewise is most interesting for its portrayal of the president as an incompetent bundle of nervous tics, easily swayed by his advisors into making morally unconscionable decisions in the name of "national security" or the country's economic interests.


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The criticisms of 24 are right on. Bower is the classic superdude updated to also be a ruthless thug in typical hollywood fashion to justify all the thuggery being perpetrated by the Bush government.

Prison break is so unbelieveable that it could probably have made more sense being presented as a comedy because the characters are so laughable.

But the most important thing to note about these two shows is that the 'really bad guys' [as opposed to the kinda bad guys that are the heros] in are top U.S. government officals playing out bizarre scenarios based on nothing more than their own self-righteous belief that they are acting in the greater good of the nation.

In this regard both shows are exemplifying the major failing of this corrupt, petty self-serving representative system. The agenda that politicans get elected on is seldom the agenda they really represent or even act out when they finaly have control of our political decision making process.


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posted 09 May 2006 05:50 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Now that we've exhausted all of the seasons, I can't say I miss it.

Has 24 been canceled?


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posted 09 May 2006 05:57 PM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No -- the fifth season started in January, and has its finale in a couple of weeks. The show has also been renewed for three more seasons, so like it or lump it, we'll have 24 to kick around for (hopefully) at least as long as George W. Bush.
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posted 09 May 2006 06:44 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
In this regard both shows are exemplifying the major failing of this corrupt, petty self-serving representative system. The agenda that politicans get elected on is seldom the agenda they really represent or even act out when they finaly have control of our political decision making process.

I think that distrust of politicians has always been a big part of North American culture. Secularism and intellectualism never made the inroads here that they did in europe. USians and Cunucks tend turn to faith, ( paticularly the backward, intolerent, uncomprmising faith put forwad by Oliver Cromwell) in times of crisis rather then to our government. It's very depressing.


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