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martin dufresne
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posted 14 May 2008 03:57 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Grand Theft Auto IV
This highly rated blockbuster, GTA IV, raked in more than $500 million in its first week in stores, selling more than 6 million units worldwide. Reviews from the UK claim "the game has been linked to two real-life attacks (a stabbing and a mugging) on its very first day of sale, and adverts for it have been withdrawn from public transport systems across America because of its graphic violence. GTA IV is a violent, twisted game, packed with casual racism and misogyny. You have to behave in a nasty manner to succeed, and it certainly deserves its 18 certificate."
GTA Liberty City offers players the ability to realistically murder cops, prostitutes or anyone--the American Dream? Check out the realistic graphics (and unadulterated misogyny) in this strip show trailer from GTA IV.
Also watch two human women, who play bitches and hos, discuss their work for Grand Theft Auto. ("You know what, without bitches, there wouldn't be any hos...") Bizarre!
(From Media Watch May 2008 Bulletin)

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500_Apples
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posted 14 May 2008 05:34 PM      Profile for 500_Apples   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Martin,

Do you think the game Civilization should be restricted or criticized? The political mechanics of the game encourages war.

What about age of empires III?

So much imperialism !!!

Having savage behavior in video games is like having savage behavior in literature. It's not just always acceptable - it's sometimes even valuable. It releases energy and provides a fictional outlet.


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martin dufresne
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posted 14 May 2008 08:39 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Actually, 500 Apples, if you took the time to view the excerpt from GTA IV hyperlinked above (click on "realistic graphics"), you will have seen not any "savage behaviour", but the normalized, trivialized, complacent exploitation of women; no catharsis but, on the contrary, smooth-as-silk guidance into an oppressive role for "players". Now, you may be comfortable with that as a career for the women you care about and as a sex role for yourself or your sons; I am not. So yes, I will be critical even if you aren't.
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Le Téléspectateur
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posted 14 May 2008 09:27 PM      Profile for Le Téléspectateur     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Doesn't this post beg the age-old question of art imitating life or vice versa?

Is the game popular because young men (the main consumers) are finding an "outlet" for their deeply ingrained misogyny courtesy of a sexist society?

Or does the game teach young men the values of a sexist society?

Or both? Or neither?

I guess the same can be asked of 500's examples of Civ and other war games (Risk? Monopoly?)


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Doug
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posted 14 May 2008 09:31 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by 500_Apples:
Martin,

Do you think the game Civilization should be restricted or criticized? The political mechanics of the game encourages war.


There are other ways to win Civ - for example, you can win by having an especially influential culture.


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Le Téléspectateur
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posted 14 May 2008 09:47 PM      Profile for Le Téléspectateur     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
There are other ways to win Civ - for example, you can win by having an especially influential culture.

Yes, the Gramsci win.


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posted 15 May 2008 01:23 AM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Already a thread on this here.
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