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Mycroft_
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posted 10 March 2003 12:17 PM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:

People who watched Roadrunner cartoons
when they were children tend to be violent
adults, new research suggests.
Women who had been exposed to high levels
of television violence were four times more
likely than their peers to admit they had
punched, beaten or choked another adult.
They were also more likely to have thrown
objects at their husbands.

Men who had been avid watchers of shows
rated "very violent" -- a category that included
The Six Million Dollar Man, Starsky and Hutch
and The Roadrunner cartoons, among others
-- had been convicted of crimes three times
more often than other men. The violence
watchers were also more likely to commit
traffic violations or to push, shove or grab their
wives.

The findings held true regardless of the
children's level of intellect, social status and
initial levels of aggression.


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Mandos
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posted 10 March 2003 12:21 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Your URL link is broken and is causing side scroll.
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 10 March 2003 12:24 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
March 3, 2003 -- Teens who spend more time watching the sex and violence depicted in the "reel" life of "gangsta" rap music videos are more likely to practice these behaviors in real life, suggests one of the first studies to specifically explore how rap videos influence emotional and physical health.

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Mandos
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posted 10 March 2003 12:25 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am suspicious of studies like this, because correlation is not causation, and yet the article is reporting it as if it were. But the crucial admission is here:
quote:
Parents may also want to consider watching violent programming with young children and talk to them about it, because previous research has shown this may reduce its negative impact.
This is an admission that the relationship is nonlinear, which has been my basic contention in previous discussions of this subject. Also, there are complex issues involved with self-report and neighbour-report studies that suggest to me that, like a whole lot of this type of psychology, you can get a study to support any position. Until we have a cognitive basis for violence-absorbtion, we cannot be conclusive on the relationship between TV violence and real-live violence.

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Mycroft_
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posted 10 March 2003 12:28 PM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Has watching too many Roadrunner cartoons resulted in people running off of cliffs, continuing in mid air as if they were still on a solid surface, looking down and then plunging to the bottom?

I used to watch Bugs Bunny and Roadrunner and while it has caused me to watch the skies for falling anvils I don't seem to have suffered otherwise. Never a fan of the Starsky & Hutch or the Six Million Dollar Man though and as a child I generally preferred slow-paced fare to the hyperkinetic, short attention span reinforcing evils of Sesame Street et al.


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Mandos
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posted 10 March 2003 12:29 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ditto for the rap discussion. Does rap get watched because some of the children are in a violent/unhealthy environment (and thus reflective of that environment) or does it cause that environment? No one can answer this, but one can always slant studies to support one way or the other. I'm not a fan of rap the way I used to be a fan of roadrunner cartoons (go coyote!), but I am suspicious of attempts to blame it on what the children are doing and not what adults are doing.
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Mycroft_
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posted 10 March 2003 12:36 PM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't remember the Coyote ever punching, hitting or kicking the roadrunner (or ever catching him or even touching him in fact). The violence was always against the Coyote and always accidental and/or self-inflicted. The only violence perpetrated against the Roadrunner was the potential of various ingenious schemes and contraptions, often provided mail order by Acme Inc.
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 10 March 2003 02:18 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Does rap get watched because some of the children are in a violent/unhealthy environment (and thus reflective of that environment) or does it cause that environment? No one can answer this...

Well, when suburban Canadian kids who've never been south of Windsor suddenly start saying "YoYoYo! S'up dog? Why's that 'ho all up in my grille for?" then I think we have the causality riddle solved.


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TommyPaineatWork
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posted 11 March 2003 01:58 AM      Profile for TommyPaineatWork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One could also state that the price of gasoline has risen in accordance to the number of violent T.V. shows too.

Maybe violence on T.V. causes increased gas prices?


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abnormal
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posted 11 March 2003 07:09 AM      Profile for abnormal   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fact is there is an extremely high correlation between the sale of ice cream cones and the number of murders.
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Heather
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posted 11 March 2003 10:09 AM      Profile for Heather   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It doesn't matter what the program is on t.v.,(the same for computer & nintendo games) the fact is as long as children are sitting in front of it before and afterschool and just before bed, they are not engaging in social activities with friends or family.

I believe that it is the parents responsibility to set up a healthy home environment and teach the children about their surroundings and how to behave and this is best done by example. "Do as I say, not as I do" parenting doesn't work.

I believe that t.v. does influence kinds of behaviour. I see it in children: seven year-olds influenced by EMINEM (I think that's how you spell it) and singing Swiss Chalet commercials. It's really quite saddening when you observe it- especially when you know that there is so much potential in children to engage in other activities.

If parents are going to allow their children to watch tons of t.v. they should at least make the initiative to spend time with them. But instead of doing that, I've seen parents throw their kids outside to play without being there with them. I think for the first little while, parents should play outside and once the child is aware of rules and aware enough to respect them then can be allowed to play outside without supervision. Just because a child isn't in front of a t.v. or computer doesn't mean he/she's going to know how to handle situations. They learn by observation- that's why setting examples is important.

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Sisyphus
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posted 11 March 2003 02:14 PM      Profile for Sisyphus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's about time serious research findings such as these end the irresponsible airing of WB cartoon re-runs.
The networks, Ah say: the networks that allow this have more nerve than a bum tooth.

Boy, Ah say, BOY! (Listen to me when Ah'm talkin', boy): the roadrunner cartoons is responsible for mah mail-order shopping addiction.

Acme, Chuck Jones (or his estate) and Mel Blanc's estate are co-defendants in mah suit. Ah will launch the suit immediately following delivery of mah giant slingshot and anvil. Look sister, is any of this filtering through that little blue bonnet of yours?


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Heather
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posted 11 March 2003 02:36 PM      Profile for Heather   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
See what I mean?!
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Performance Anxiety
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posted 11 March 2003 07:48 PM      Profile for Performance Anxiety        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What about these Macho Cartoons?


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