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simonvallee
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posted 03 December 2005 01:31 AM      Profile for simonvallee   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just wondering if any of you people like me share the love of metal music, and what group if any you like. (BTW, I just checked and apparently metalhead is a recognized word of the English language according to Webster)

I personally tend to prefer power metal and progressive metal and I listen to primarily (but not exclusively) Blind Guardian, Dream Theater, Sonata Arctica and Hammerfall.


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posted 03 December 2005 02:41 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Black, death, power, prog., it's all good buddy.

Oh, and Japan has some crazy bands. Mostly Sigh, but Sigh is still pretty darned cool. Imaginary Soniscapes is one of my favourite albums.


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posted 03 December 2005 02:49 AM      Profile for simonvallee   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know much about Japanese bands, perhaps I should investigate. BTW, know about
encyclopaedia metallum?

quote:
Black, death, power, prog., it's all good buddy.

That's a question of taste, for example, I can't stand black or death metal, I want clean vocals I can understand.


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posted 03 December 2005 03:45 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes I do.

I used to contribute articles on grind-core bands for those things. BTW have you ever heard of the anti-fascist band Agathocles, Belgian bunch? Really interesting stuff.

I can't say that I'm as much of a metal head now as I was in high school. Back in high school I was sort of a guru on these things. Nowadays I don't think I could see myself going to a large death metal or black metal concert again.


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posted 03 December 2005 06:57 AM      Profile for Thrasymachus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I picked up a hatebreed CD today to go with my foul mood. Good stuff, if you like the whole Hardcore Metal crossover scene. I have to admit that I accidentally went to a evangelical hardcore concert last year and Figure Four was great. I even bought a couple of their CDs and I when I opened the cover I realized... oh thats what's different about this crowd.
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posted 03 December 2005 08:41 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not much of metalhead anymore, and try as hard as I could I just couldn't get into the power metal stuff like Blind Guardian. Botch and Converged, not bad. Samuel, not bad and even some Deadhorse, which I actually bought - good stuff. Black metal stands for too much that I dislike (like neo-Nazism) but I know many people who listen to it and get past that stuff.

I like post rock, psychedelic and 'stoner rock' the best.

Which one of you guys is going to admit to being a Manowar fan? Fess up


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Oh I forgot to mention for Papa Bull, on the subject of Japanese bands these ones:

Church of Misery \m/ - awesome band
http://www.d7.dion.ne.jp/~church/

Glay
Super Junky Monkey


Hellride Music has some wicked stuff on the site you guys might like.

www.hellridemusic.com


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Goody! Is this a confession thread? Ok, I listen to newer music like the Killers, Default, and Nickelback etc, but I admit that I used to listen to Def Leppard (Pyromania and earlier only), Skid Row, Ozzy, Judas Priest ( ), Nirvana, Motley Crue ( ), G'n'R (sorry). Now, I mainly play these old discs when my wife pisses me off seein' she likes hip hop.

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posted 03 December 2005 10:56 AM      Profile for steffie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nobody has mentioned Metallica?? Or are they not considered "metal"? I love 'em. Great driving music.

I also like "Stupify" by Disturbed.

YEAH!!!!


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posted 03 December 2005 11:14 AM      Profile for Sleeping Sun     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ahh, a thread that speaks to my heart.

I'm too a big fan of prog/power metal, with a little bit of goth thown in. I've tired death metal, but I can only take it in small doses.

Aside from the bands already mentioned by simonv., I also like Nightwish (big suprise), Therion, Kamelot, Lacuna Coil, Epica, Iced Earth, Demons and Wizzards. Throw in some more old school stuff like Prest, Maiden, Sabbath and Megadeth, and you have my daily playlist.

\m/

as an aside, Mr. Sun and I receviced our BW&BK toques yesterday. Two of my favourite things: metal and toques!


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posted 03 December 2005 01:12 PM      Profile for Yst     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Death Glam and Industrial Metal are my thing, it seems. But although almost all my favourite music is influenced by metal or a subgenre of metal, virtually none of it is metal for metal's sake.

Currently enjoying Genitorturers greatly. And I've been relistening to White Zombie lately.


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I love Industrial Metal, although I've heard the bands I like being described as something else. VNV Nation, Icon of Coil, Combichrist....great stuff to dance to with a hard bass line.
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posted 03 December 2005 06:27 PM      Profile for thwap        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Christ, what the fuck is "metalhead" supposed to mean?

I don't know hardly any of these bands!!!!!

I'm pretty happy with this new "stonerrock" that Stargazer mentioned on another thread.

I got into all that "head-banging" stuff because i like the heavy guitar sound, and oftentimes the singers were pretty good. Ronny Dio had a good voice.

I'm always driven to cringe by the stupid lyrics.

"Deathmetal" and all that stuff, ... ain't my bag.

But yeah, BlackSabbath, SoundGarden, Limo-Zeen, all great stuff. (I put my headphones on cause everybody else i know hates it.)

[oh yeah, "Cannibal Corpse," that's the sort of stuff i just can't jive to. bleagh.]

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posted 03 December 2005 06:59 PM      Profile for simonvallee   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Metalhead means "fan of metal music", it's a word recognized by most dictionaries.

As to what is metal/heavy metal music, always check good old wikipedia.


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posted 03 December 2005 07:23 PM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just say 'yes' to stoner rock. Some of the best music ever. John Garcia of Kyuss is king.

Okay now, who wants to fess up to the Manowar thing? Come on!!


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posted 03 December 2005 07:38 PM      Profile for Ghost of the Navigator        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like a lot of power, progressive, symphonic, and folk metal. :-)

Ever hear Skyclad?

They're a left-wing folk metal/folk rock band from the U.K. and have by far the best and wittiest lyrics of any band I've listened to.

I also love taking the Hammerfall song "Templars of Steel" (from their third album "Renegades") and changing the lyrics to leftist stuff.

Incidentally, my past three usernames are metal-related:

Betray my Secrets is the name of a blackish metal band who mix lots of ethnic elements into their music while singing about religious experiences. Some of their songs sound so ethereal that they're especially fun to listen to while stoned. Sadly, I'm sober at the moment. I chose it because I knew that somebody would find out that I was NDP Newbie.

America is Behind is the name of one of my favourite songs by Aria, a Soviet/Russian band that sounds very similar to Iron Maiden. I chose it as an anti-American statement. In spite of the fact that the song itself has slightly anti-American lyrics, Aria was far more anti-Soviet than anti-American, even if they may not have been particularly pro-American.

Ghost of the Navigator is one of my favourite Iron Maiden songs and comes from their 2000 release Brave New World. Refers to the fact that I spend a lot of time online (Navigator) and that my recent severe anxiety and its consequences often make me feel as though I am but a shadow of myself.

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posted 03 December 2005 08:00 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Stargazer:
Okay now, who wants to fess up to the Manowar thing? Come on!!

WE ARE BROTHERS OF TRUE METAL. PROUD AND STANDING TALL!


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posted 03 December 2005 08:17 PM      Profile for simonvallee   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Frankly, the attitude of Manowar is putting me off, but I do like Hammerfall, and in their first album, some of them were wearing Manowar t-shirts for the official pictures of the band. Still, the cheese factor nearly knocked me down when I first listened to them (my first album of theirs is their newest Chapter V, yeah my passion for metal has only recently blossomed, before I was an exclusive Blind Guardian fan). They're lucky they're good enough to be worth the "cheese tolerance" learning curve needed to enjoy them, now I barely notice.
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posted 03 December 2005 09:29 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's because you're a wimp AND a poser!
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posted 03 December 2005 09:32 PM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wimp and a poser!

Power metal *sung in high falsetto voice*

Who says you cannot be manly wearing loin clothes and holding fake swords?!


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posted 03 December 2005 10:11 PM      Profile for thwap        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
how about my "Meshugga" cd?

or my "Neurosis" cd?


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Brilliant idea here! Let's demand a metalhead forum on babble! Wheeeeeeuuuwwww! We could totally bring back the all-important spectacle of metal. Oh, and we could have meet-ups where we like, wear tight black pants, tease our hair, smoke a fatty, get smashed, and then trash some hotel room!..............or, uhmm.....we could just, you know, steal the nice smelling shampoos or something. Or, maybe not.
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We won't need our own forum. We'll just park ourselves into whatever forum we want, crank up our metal and watch everyone else leave!!
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quote:
Originally posted by Papal Bull:

WE ARE BROTHERS OF TRUE METAL. PROUD AND STANDING TALL!


My playlist includes Hail to England (Given my politics, Hail to Scotland would be more appropriate), Blood of my Enemies, Guyana (Cult of the Damned), The Gods Made Heavy Metal, Blood of the Kings, and Thor (The Powerhead).

JACK THE MIGHTY!
JACK THE GREAT!
CRUSH THE LIBERCONS IN YOUR WAKE!

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@ cartman. Tuff guy huh?

Yee Gads! Thor? Got to keep the dogs away I guess. But who am I to talk, I am a huge Motely Crue fan - still.


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posted 04 December 2005 11:54 PM      Profile for C.Morgan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh god yer making me feel old. I still consider myself a metalhead though my mullet is long gone. (thankfully.

Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and Sabbath are what come to mind with me.


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Oh me, memememe! It seems that most of the people on this thread also post to the "What are you listening to now?" thread, which is kinda neat to see.

Right now, my most played (metal) bands are: Atheist, Mr. Bungle, Mastadon, Thought Industry, and Neurosis. I don't really understand the subgenres enough to say which ones I like best, although 'black metal' I find really really hard to take -- even the stuff that's actively against the neo-nazi elements in the scene, I think it's more the sound of it that bugs me.

Tool is one of my all-time favourites, although apparantly a lot of people don't think they're 'actually metal'.

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About the subgenres, here is a website describing them.

Or in my personal rather amateurish description (rather good I'd say for Power and Progressive, for the rest, I don't listen very much, so it's approximative and from what I've been told mostly):

Power Metal: normally fast metal that tend to be harmonized and more melodic than the other genres. Normally the singer has an high voice and the lyrical themes tend to be more uplifting or inspired by fantastic litterature, which is why some call it "happy metal".

Progressive Metal: metal that tries to be very complicated musically, hard to play and that normally demand more listenings to really "get". Lyrical themes tend to be more mainstream, talking about life, love, the usual, or really obscure stuff you must analyze to find a message.

Doom Metal: Slower form of metal with very low but strong notes, so that some call the distinctive sounds not actually "sounds", but vibrations. Lyrical themes are much darker, as the name indicates.

Trash metal: rather fast like power, but it is very different in that the instruments are not harmonized one with the other, they don't blend together like in power.

Death metal: Characterized especially by the vocals that are "death grunts", as someone here said, it sounds like people burping the alphabet, that is a very apt comparison.

Black metal: very dark even satanist lyrical themes, sometimes grunting or screaming. Some think it is more a matter of attitude than music, of trying to be as frightening, anti-social and anti-christian as possible.

Heavy metal: a metal that doesn't fit in any other subgenre. Seriously, some will not describe any band as heavy metal except if they sprung in the UK during the late 70s or early 80s (the New Wave Of British Heavy Metal).


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posted 05 December 2005 02:23 AM      Profile for MartinArendt     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not a metalhead, that's for sure.

At the same time, I can appreciate some old Sabbath, Ozzy, Maiden, and early Metallica. I liked Soundgarden. Beyond that, I don't really own any metal.

I've gone to some metal shows, but usually, it's all the same speedy power chords, double-kick drumming, and growling/screaming voice.

Oh, and I like Tool, but I think they're border-line metal. I also like Gwar, because I think they're hilarious.


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posted 05 December 2005 04:03 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Within progressive and death there is a cross-over of genres in the "technical metal" field. Wheras within progressive and thrash there is a cross over in the field of "speed metal". In addition to these there are various cross overs of other genres. Bal-Sagoth, for example, is a combination of black metal (symphonic) with power metal (fantasy).


******DISCLAIMER*****
Before you read on and get offended by the material understand that this is an objective look at the genre. I do not support the views that many of the bands have and in fact I outright oppose most of the bands. Much of information in my following piece is highly disputable and may not be pleasent to hear. If anyone has any concerns with what I am writing or questions about how I have this knowledge I'd be pleased to answer in the forms of PMs

To clarify on black metal. The scene grows primarily out of a combination of Euro-punk and thrash metal. Black metal contains various shock elements and is TRADITIONALLY politically apathetic. Many bands epouse anti-Christian/anti-social rhetoric, again, mostly in the quest for more and more shocking material.

I have found that gradually black metal has gone down hill with the meteoric rise within the scene of NSBM. NSBM is highly problematic because it has become a plug into Viking Metal, Folk Metal and plain old Black Metal. It is extremely annoying as many modern influential bands within the scene have extremist right-wing view points on various topics. It is literally sickening to see what the genre has been reduced to. I would argue that the high point occured immediately after the death of...Death and Euronymus. Various bands like Borknagar began to meld a more complex sound and remove various "raw" components from the music. The band Ulvaar actually perfected the sound of "raw" by using artistic techniques of location based production. Through the experiences that the band had they matured to their modern state, which is primarily post-rock. Black metal's earliest symposium of work such as Darkthrone's post-Soulside Journey albums, the early Mayhem albums, the Burzuum albums and countless others gain a hysteric immaturity and irrationality that are the hallmark of the genre.

Also, during this time, there was a rise in esoteric conceptualization of pagan and anti-Christian elements. Embodied in the work of bands like Emperor and Taake (although later, nonetheless important) it added an intellgensia sort of class to the genre. During the year of 1993 when it all went down hill (to real fans of music) or up hill (to creepy NAZIs that frequent the scene) depending on your view, there was very little disparity amongst the performer's thoughts. There was very little dissent within the core group that existed in Norway at the time. It was a masochistic and juvenile gathering that attempted to breed a genre that would maintain "pure" through to the end of metal. This issue failed, ultimately, as after 1993 the various sub-genres exploded. Vintersorg, Finntroll and other bands that grew from the black-metal scene high light this point.

It should be noted and understood that within each country there are various musical regions for black metal and its various sub-genres. Canada's main export was until recently "chaotic war metal" a highly misanthropic and noisy form of metal that often adopted white supremist motiffs. I believe there was an element of this that was tongue in cheek. There was also a serious movement within Canada called the "James Bay style". It kind of turned into a joke, of course. Nowadays bands like "Woods of Ypres" are Canada's biggest contribution to the genre. In Scandinavia the "original" sound has been preserved by bands like Disiplin. The mysognistic and racist elements have more or less been weeded out in Norway/Sweden/Finland as they've made way for a more accepting genre. Bands like Tristania, Mystifier and Horde are all examples of either female, black (as in African) black metal and Christian black metal. In South America there is a growing movement to an early post-thrash sound. The movement is generally leftist, but there are many NS examples. The United States is ultimately a mixed bag. Band's like Absu claim to be apolitical, but their fans ultimately turn them into something they're not. The same goes for England. Eastern Europe has the largest problem with hyper-ethnic nationalist bands. It is absolutely disturbing the music that comes from that region. Western/Central Europe is again a mixed bag. Bands like Kristallnacht from France or Hate! from Italy exemplify the once large NS elements in the music. Fortunately the Spainish scene is gradually phasing out extreme-right wing elements. In fact, much of western Europe has managed to reverse the tide of NS in the music scene. Central Europe has continued to have a problem with this. Interestingly Black Metal in the Middle East has been almost entirely joking. Israeli bands have become ironically anti-semetic to mock their northern cousins. Bands like the Immortal Ayatollahs (made up of Iranians) insult the fundamentalist anti-Christian Astratu elements of much European metal by replacing that with extreme Islamic fundamentalist sources. In Asia there has been a really, really weird movement. In China the bands have taken to the stylings of Dimmu Borgir (examples are like Cthonic), in Taiwan they've taken to a more "raw" sound. Japan has the greatest divergence, ranging from NS elements to psychadelic metal like Sigh.

Although I am horrified by the NAZI elements that have grown in the black metal scene they have to understood and recognized as a historically crucial point in the genre. I hope that the extremist elements gradually lose their edge and die off, but there will always be a shock value to what is in that genre. I should also mention that although I do not listen to black metal anymore (I just find a lot of the content disgusting and immature).

Anymore questions on that genre?

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I have been and always will be a head banger in my choice of music. The difference between a teen metal head and a teen who listens to Britney Spears is that metal heads can tell you what the song is about, whether it was snowing outside the day the band recorded it, etc and so on.

For the record, my favorite metal band is Iron Maiden and my fave song is "Run to the Hills". I am also encouraged by Green Day's fantastic album "American Idiot" even though they are more punkish than anything.


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quote:
Doom Metal: Slower form of metal with very low but strong notes, so that some call the distinctive sounds not actually "sounds", but vibrations. Lyrical themes are much darker, as the name indicates.

We can break Doom Metal down even further. There is Traditional Doom - I'm putting bands like Cathedral, St.Vitus and Pentagram here and let's not forget Death Doom which has bands like Khanate (vocals are more hard core growling). Then of course there is the Gothic Doom of bands such as My Dying Bride, Anathema etc. I'd think we can even throw in some Drone Doom and add SUNN0)) and OX to the mix.


Papa Bull - what an amazing analysis! Absolutley superb. I just learned a lot of new things I had no idea about.

There is a book by Gary Sharpe-Young called the A - Z of Doom, Gothic and Stoner Metal put out by Rock Detector (yours truly has some photos and a thank-you in it)

RockDetector - Worlds Biggest Rock Music Database


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Anybody else like Running Wild?

Sure they're cheesy as fuck, they're basically Manowar in pirate costumes, and half the time (especially on the new stuff) Rock 'n Rolf is supported by electronic instruments rather than by a real band, but they're a blast to listen to (try listening to Under Jolly Roger without smiling) and the only time the perennial German favourites they ever get overly political is with Fight the Fires of Hate, a standout anti-Nazi track from their 1994 classic Blackhand Inn. Overall though, I get very libertarian vibes from their music with perhaps a hint of leftism (Perhaps because, unlike Hammerfall or Manowar, I can scream along without feeling a little guilty about some of the lyrics. I feel like a Thatcherite git whenever Hail to England comes on...:-P)


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Manowar in pirate costumes? Post a pic!!

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posted 06 December 2005 04:19 AM      Profile for RANGER     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was a big fan of alot of the 80's stuff, I feel lucky to have grown up in that era and seen/met many of these bands: Sabbath,Priest,Scorpions,Saxon,Dokken,Accept,Ozzy,Maiden,Loudness,Trust,Queensryche,Gary Moore,Crue,Ac/Dc,Def Leppard, Van Halen to name a few, I know some of the bands I've mentioned are not considered "metal" but give them there due,if you can keep a flame going that long in this buissness, your doing something right.

My wife hates it but I've kept alot of my old Cd's, The best time machine a guy could have.


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Clog-boy
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posted 06 December 2005 07:21 AM      Profile for Clog-boy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not a metalhead, but I sure don't mind listening to it.
Besides some Metallica, there's only one cd in my collection which could be discribed as metal: Toxicity by System of a Down...
Great drving music, never been late on any appointmnt when playing SoaD in my car...
The accelerator just seems to stick to the floor automatically, dunno why....

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Boarsbreath
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posted 06 December 2005 06:25 PM      Profile for Boarsbreath   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
NO, BUT HE SURE WENT BY....

quote:
Heavy metal killed Beethoven, analysis shows
THE INDEPENDENT (UK) December 7, 2005

Sophisticated analysis of a fragment of Ludwig Van Beethoven's skull has confirmed the brilliant 19th century composer died of massive lead poisoning, researchers said today.

The research was carried out at the US Department of Energy's Argonne National Laboratory where scientists focused the most powerful X-ray machine on the bone fragments and found conclusive evidence of long term lead poisoning.

"The finding of elevated lead in Beethoven's skull, along with DNA results indicating authenticity of the relics, provides solid evidence that Beethoven suffered from a toxic overload of lead," said Bill Walsh, chief scientist at the Pfeiffer Treatment Centre in Warrenville, Illinois and director of the Beethoven Research Project.

"Beethoven experienced a change of personality and abdominal illness in his late teens and early 20s that persisted throughout his adult life. His abdominal symptoms and autopsy findings are both consistent with lead poisoning," Walsh said.
Beethoven died in 1827 at age 56 after suffering decades of poor health.

Scientists and historians have yet to determine what caused the acute lead poisoning but some have speculated it may have been due to Beethoven's habit of drinking wine from lead cups, or medical treatments which used lead.


Notice they don't mention that he must have been working as a metalhead...Head out on the...old country lane


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Cartman
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posted 06 December 2005 06:36 PM      Profile for Cartman        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Post a pic!!
BEST BABBLE IDEA EVERRRR! Damn, I wish I had a pic.

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arborman
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posted 06 December 2005 06:38 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow, I never did more than observe metal from the sidelines, punk being more my bag. Some crossovers though, back in the day. I haven't heard of most of the bands named above - guess I'm an old fogey.

Drift - did anyone see Korn when he was a guest food eater on one of the original Iron Chef episodes? Very strange pop cultural disjunction there.

(I don't even know if Korn qualifies as metal. I'll just be leaving this thread now, before I am forever mocked).


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simonvallee
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posted 07 December 2005 01:34 AM      Profile for simonvallee   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I don't even know if Korn qualifies as metal.

It's considered "Nu metal", mix of metal and hip hop, and thus not considered "metal" by most metal fans.


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Gir Draxon
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posted 07 December 2005 02:40 AM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Finntroll is an interesting mix of Swedish folk and death metal. Try the songs Kitteldags and Trollhammaren. (Apologies if those are spelled wrong)
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Mick
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posted 07 December 2005 02:47 AM      Profile for Mick        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Metal Up Your Ass!

Napalm Death are a good progressive metal band. Staunch anti-fascists, supporters of Anti-Fascist Action, and confront nazis at football matches.


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Cueball
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posted 07 December 2005 05:39 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by simonvallee:
Just wondering if any of you people like me share the love of metal music, and what group if any you like. (BTW, I just checked and apparently metalhead is a recognized word of the English language according to Webster)

I personally tend to prefer power metal and progressive metal and I listen to primarily (but not exclusively) Blind Guardian, Dream Theater, Sonata Arctica and Hammerfall.


Arrrghghghghhghg! Me!


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Yst
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posted 07 December 2005 07:30 AM      Profile for Yst     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As someone with a long time Anglo-Saxonist academic interest, which is to say an interest in the study of Old English and in the history of the Anglo-Saxon period in England 449-1066CE, I must convey my great annoyance at the adoption of Anglo-Saxon interests by certain 'WP' metalheads, hardcore kids and punks who presumably got bored of Vikings or wanted something closer to home. Until fairly recently, Anglo-Saxonism meant the study of Old English language and literature. Recently, I did a search for Anglo-Saxonism and a neo-nazi webpage came up as a top result. Ugh.
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Stargazer
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posted 07 December 2005 07:34 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Now if we were posting on some metalhead board everyone would be posting nasty things about Korn and nu-metal

True metal and all that. \m/


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Yst
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posted 07 December 2005 07:51 AM      Profile for Yst     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Stargazer:
Now if we were posting on some metalhead board everyone would be posting nasty things about Korn and nu-metal

True metal and all that. \m/


And surely, since they got mentioned, there would be an argument over whether SOAD is really nu metal, or is just something else entirely.


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posted 13 December 2005 09:34 AM      Profile for drgoodword   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So where does Spinal Tap fit into all this?
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Boom Boom
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posted 13 December 2005 12:22 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just killing time while I take a break from the woodpile. A friend absolutely adored a band in the 1960's called 'Grand Funk Railroad' which were really loud (they came and gave a concert in Ottawa). I saw 'Black Sabbath' in Ottawa around the time of their first released album - even louder than GFR, they were. Were either or both of these early bands what would now be classified as 'heavy metal'? I didn't ever again listen to any of this stuff - it produced too much ringing in my ears. I've never understood the appeal of this stuff, it's just loud noise. Probably great for stoners, though.
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chester the prairie shark
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posted 13 December 2005 12:33 PM      Profile for chester the prairie shark     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sabbath yes, Grand Funk no,no,no.
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Boom Boom
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posted 13 December 2005 04:39 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks!
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West Coast Greeny
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posted 13 December 2005 04:43 PM      Profile for West Coast Greeny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Metallica, Linkin Park is borderline, Rammstein are all good. I'm going to get the famous "Black Album" for myself I think.
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Boom Boom
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posted 13 December 2005 05:02 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, don't get me wrong - I have no desire whatsoever to ever listen to metal again. I saw Black Sabbath live in Ottawa 35+ years ago, have no desire to ever listen to that crud again. I'll be listening to early Joni Mitchell tonight.
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HellofaSandwich
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posted 13 December 2005 05:58 PM      Profile for HellofaSandwich   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Metalheads are just nerds gone tough.

I don't listen to much metal... well, on the prog-metal side, I do like Rush more than I really should. Dillinger Escape Plan is pretty awesome, but that's more along the lines of metalcore.

I do definitely enjoy Iron Maiden, though. That stuff is just fun to listen to. But overall, I'm definitely an indie sort of guy.


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HellofaSandwich
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posted 13 December 2005 05:58 PM      Profile for HellofaSandwich   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Edit: Double post, sorry.

[ 13 December 2005: Message edited by: HellofaSandwich ]


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simonvallee
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posted 13 December 2005 11:16 PM      Profile for simonvallee   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Metal isn't really about making loud noise, though some bands are proud of having the sound as loud as possible in concerts (Manowar: "real men play on 10" ) , but generally metal is still about making good music, sometimes even very complex music (progressive metal) or with a lot of melodies (power metal).

I don't have to make my ears bleed to enjoy Blind Guardian or Dream Theater.

[ 14 December 2005: Message edited by: simonvallee ]


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