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VanMan2000
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posted 04 October 2004 07:36 PM      Profile for VanMan2000     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Getting really sick and tired of this...

VANCOUVER (CBC) - Vancouver Park Board commissioner Allan De Genova is stepping in to help make sure Nat Bailey Stadium doesn't end up being bulldozed. The baseball field at Ontario and 33rd is in danger of demolition because of planned development in the area.

There are six proposals for the area currently being considered by the Park Board. Five of them include the demolition of the stadium.

...first the AAA Vancouver Canadians are forced to move because the Parks Board wouldn't share the cost of renovations to the Park Board's own facility. Similar situations have took place in Calgary, Edmonton, Ottawa, and of course, the major league Expos in Montreal. Now Vancouver's Parks Board wants to run the Class A Northwest League Canadians out of town. At the same time, government and business leaders bend over whenever the local NHL team wants a favour.

WHY DO CANADIANS HATE BASEBALL SO MUCH? As someone who was born in raised in Canada, and had a father who played in the New York Giants farm system, I find people's attitudes' toward the game I grew up with frustrating, if not disgusting.

When I attend Mariners' games in Seattle, and entertain the occasional conversation with seatmates, hockey is met with a polite "thanks but no thanks." The reaction to baseball from Canadians ranges from knee-jerk anti-Americanism to outright hostility. I've had people bitch at me that baseball is boring, but these are also people who religiously watch PGA golf on TV.

I stay in the city during the summer, and the ballpark is my summmer home. What's happened to our society that there is no longer a place for warm summer nights, cold beers, hot dogs, line drives and double plays? Why are we so dismissive of a sport that we came within a few feet of winning a gold medal in Athens for?

Anyway, if the Parks Board bows the Olympics/Developer bullies, there is a lot of disposable income I will be spending in Seattle, Portland, wherever else nearby with organized baseball, and NOT in Vancouver!


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Just because some of the dopes in la-la land decide to do in a baseball venue is not an indication that Canadians hate the game.

Look across the country and tell me how many kids do you see on a quiet street with a stick and a ball, or playing in an open field? Alas, you are more likely to see a hockey net [Car!].

Baseball is not really in the Canadian culture. Depending on where you are, it is either hockey or lacrosse.

Canadian baseball fans, unite! We have now sent the Expos to Washington. When will Washington pay for the big Owe?


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quote:
Originally posted by VanMan2000:
VANCOUVER (CBC) - Vancouver Park Board commissioner Allan De Genova is stepping in to help make sure Nat Bailey Stadium doesn't end up being bulldozed. The baseball field at Ontario and 33rd is in danger of demolition because of planned development in the area.

There are six proposals for the area currently being considered by the Park Board. Five of them include the demolition of the stadium.


Why shouldn't the parks board do what it wants with the land? From the POV of the parks board, why not use the land for something that is of more general use, rather than something that is used only a few times a week during the summer?

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Originally posted by VanMan2000:
WHY DO CANADIANS HATE BASEBALL SO MUCH? As someone who was born in raised in Canada, and had a father who played in the New York Giants farm system, I find people's attitudes' toward the game I grew up with frustrating, if not disgusting.

Disgusting? Get a life.

quote:
Originally posted by VanMan2000:
I've had people bitch at me that baseball is boring, but these are also people who religiously watch PGA golf on TV.

I'm one of them. Because GOLF IS WAY MORE INTERESTING THAN BASEBALL.

quote:
Originally posted by VanMan2000:
Anyway, if the Parks Board bows the Olympics/Developer bullies, there is a lot of disposable income I will be spending in Seattle, Portland, wherever else nearby with organized baseball, and NOT in Vancouver!

Well I hope you and your disposable income have fun.


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posted 04 October 2004 07:58 PM      Profile for VanMan2000     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Anchoress:

Well I hope you and your disposable income have fun.


That and 'get a life' pretty much illustrates the hostility I've noticed among the trendysomethings who go to sporting events like the Canucks and the Molson Indy to be seen.

It's really sad that there's this kind of contempt for a sport that people can still afford to take their families too and tries to be part of the community: Nat Bailey is home to baseball programs from Little League to the UBC varsity squad.


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posted 04 October 2004 08:00 PM      Profile for VanMan2000     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
BTW, I wouldn't call condominiums and a curling rink 'general' use.
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I can't speak for the Vancouver Parks Board (who can?), but "Canadians" don't hate baseball. There's probably just as great a proportion of Americans who find it boring, and major-league attendance there has been stagnant or declining for years.
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Major League Baseball attendence has actually been steadily increasing since the abbreviated 1994 season, the result of changes to the playoff format, a number of record chases, and a few new ballparks.

That being said, this could be one of those "cultural divergence" issues that often leave me scratching my head.


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posted 04 October 2004 08:12 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
This thread is BS.

I grew up playing baseball. My buddies and I played ball whenever the weather allowed. My Dad and his brothers played before me, and their Dad before them. I have a chronic sore right arm from overthrowing when I was a little kid, but as a catcher I can still pick off a baserunner at third. (I went through a weekend of pain following a softball game two Fridays ago).

We didn't live near any pro teams, but we followed the ML on TV and radio, loved Curt Gowdy, Tony Kubek and Joe Garagiola...and later Duke and Dave with the Expo broadcasts.

Major League Baseball responded by crapping all over us in 1994.


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quote:
Originally posted by VanMan2000:

That and 'get a life' pretty much illustrates the hostility I've noticed among the trendysomethings who go to sporting events like the Canucks and the Molson Indy to be seen.

It's really sad that there's this kind of contempt for a sport that people can still afford to take their families too and tries to be part of the community: Nat Bailey is home to baseball programs from Little League to the UBC varsity squad.


Of course you're entitled to your opinion VM, but I assure you that I have neither hostility nor contempt for baseball or its adherents; on the other hand, some of the comments I responded to (the 'disgusting' one stands out) displayed contempt for all those who do not hold your point of view.

Whatever your intention, you come off IMO judgemental and sanctimonious, generalising and dumping on people who don't want to help support your pet cause.


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Major League Baseball attendence has actually been steadily increasing since the abbreviated 1994 season, the result of changes to the playoff format, a number of record chases, and a few new ballparks.

Perhaps it's been increasing in some cities, but I notice that of 30 MLB teams, fully 14 have home-attendance records that are over ten years old.

To look at it another way, 19 teams, or nearly two-thirds, have home-attendance records at least five years old.

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It's a personal preference. While I'm somewhat of a fair-weather Mariners fan (2001 was a damn good regular season) I just don't find the game that interesting to watch or play it on a regular basis. I don't think it indicates anti-Americanism. I'm really perplexed why you would even suggest this VanMan. Anti-Americanism is a word used by the right to dismiss critics of American foreign policy.

It has nothing to do with anti-Americanism it’s a preference! I prefer to watch other sports and/or cultural events.


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It has nothing to do with anti-Americanism it’s a preference!

It's even less.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I love baseball, and I think the USA should go suck eggs.


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Okay, they both might be fun to play, but they *SUCK* to watch because they ARE boring. But which is more boring?

A) baseball

B) curling

For me, it's a tie...


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posted 05 October 2004 01:19 AM      Profile for Socrates   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
[Thread drift]

Hey Heph, check your PM's buddy

Sorry all!

[/Thread Drift]


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quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestion:
Okay, they both might be fun to play, but they *SUCK* to watch because they ARE boring. But which is more boring?

A) baseball

B) curling

For me, it's a tie...


I would watch curling over baseball anytime without question. Its SO much more interesting than baseball!


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posted 05 October 2004 01:43 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Ditto.
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I find both sports (curling and baseball) about equivalent to watching paint dry on the interest, only more irritating.

Come to think of it, watching most sports bores me to tears.

Not that participating isn't fun... I just can't be bothered watching some idiot scratch rudely for for several minutes before he actually DOES something. And the broom thing in curling... The only broom action I want to witness should result in my house being clean.

(Yes I am a curmudgeon. Sue me.)


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Which is more boring to watch?

Golf, by along shot.

Curling and baseball each have their occasional moments of excitement. And so does golf, I suppose - but only once a year, when someone flukes a hole-in-one.


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There's an 800 lb. gorilla sitting in the middle of this discussion.

Let's be honest, the only sport really worth watching is women's volleyball.


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posted 05 October 2004 03:11 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Is the gorilla wearing a thong?
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Okay, they both might be fun to play, but they *SUCK* to watch because they ARE boring. But which is more boring?

Baseball is fun to play. I'd have played it a lot more if I had had better vision.

But as a spectator sport, especially when your seats are roughly 4 km from the field, it is stultifying. I either spend all my time staring at the Jumbotron (...and why didn't I stay home and watch tv in that case?) or I drink copious amounts of expensive watery beer and chat with my friends. Someone usually has to tell me the game is over. That's not a sport - that's waiting for your flight in the boarding lounge.


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I LOVE baseball. And I was a super-keen fan until the strike.

ML business just killed the teams, the idea of teams -- you know, a group of guys who stick together longer than part of one season, lots of them talented rookies, showing promise, team is growing, etc etc?

That was what made ML ball fun even into the early nineties, although the money was already starting to befoul things by then.

Since the strike, though -- who cares? Every year, you need a new cast list. Who cares?

There is some semi-pro ball near me. They play at Christie Pits, which is just an ideal setting for fans. Next year I won't be so lazy ...

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The problem for me is that the games have become too damn long. At 2:00-2:30, which is what the games used to be, the games moved quickly enough that they didn't become boring. But now, when 3:00-3:30 for a nine inning game is typical, it's impossible to watch. Pitchers take forever between pitches. Batters step out after every pitch and scratch their balls for five minutes. Forget about it. The days when Bob Gibson and Steve Carlton would pitch two hour complete games are gone. Not to mention that the playoff and world series games start too late, although that hasn't been a problem for Canadian teams for quite a while.
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Ha! The impertinence!
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Hey, I still haven't gotten over the Blue Jays beating my Phillies in '93.
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Nyah nyah! I remember the winning game, I was watching it.

Anyone remember that beer commercial - can't remember whether it was Molson or Labatt - where some guy was sitting at a border crossing between Canada and the US, and talked about how American beer is like water. I don't remember it clearly, but by the end of the commercial I think he was talking about how he likes pissing Americans off by popping in a video of Toronto winning the world series - and if that doesn't piss them off, then he pops in another video of us winning it again the next year.


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quote:
Originally posted by josh:
Hey, I still haven't gotten over the Blue Jays beating my Phillies in '93.

Nyah nyah nyah nyah, nyah nyah nyah nyah, etc.

Drat, no, Michelle, I never saw that. Wish I had.


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Originally posted by Vansterdam Kid:
I'm really perplexed why you would even suggest this VanMan. Anti-Americanism is a word used by the right to dismiss critics of American foreign policy.

On a few occasions(notably during the Mariners 2001 season) I have been yelled at, had beverages spilled on me, shoved, and screamed at to "GO BACK TO THE F**KIN' U.S., YOU YANKEE PIECE OF SH*T" because I had the audacity to ask servers to switch ONE of the multitude of TV's at local sports bars from a Canucks' regular season game to a Mariners' PLAYOFF game.

Ironically enough, most of the abuse came from guys wearing Todd (sucker punch) Bertuzzi jerseys. Don't get me wrong, I like other sports, but what I find in Vancouver, as opposed to other cities, is that hockey is treated like the ONLY sport that matters.

BTW Kid, I appreciate your asking me why I'd feel this way instead of being dismissed with the "Get a life" slap I was treated to earlier in this thread.


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I used to love everything about baseball. I fondly recall sitting in the Grandstands at Exhibition Stadium ($2.00 a ticket at Dominion), 20-30 times every year. I read every book I could, watched every movie, and played in the back of the local school all the time.

Now, not so much. I share the overwhemlning boredom expressed by other on this thread. 3 hours is just way too long for almost anything, especially for something as slow-paced as baseball. Add to that salaries, 1994, the Yankees, and Skydome...

"I never realized how boring this game really is." - Homer Simpson (at a baseball game, after he gave up drinking)


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I love baseball.

I hate the game that those pissy millionaries play in the big stadiums watched by drunk people paying $8 per hot dog.


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Ironically enough, most of the abuse came from guys wearing Todd (sucker punch) Bertuzzi jerseys. Don't get me wrong, I like other sports, but what I find in Vancouver, as opposed to other cities, is that hockey is treated like the ONLY sport that matters.
Very ironic, as Vancouver is a place where baseball can be played 10 months a year - and open air shinny, perhaps two weeks, in a particularly bad season.

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quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:

Nyah nyah nyah nyah, nyah nyah nyah nyah, etc.


Careful, or I may bring up the Stanley Cup, which you folks may, or may not, see again on your side of the border. Or the fact that it's unlikely ever to call Toronto home.


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Very ironic, as Vancouver is a place where baseball can be played 10 months a year -

Er... in BC Place Stadium, maybe, which is covered. Otherwise, though, Vancouver has two seasons, rainy and dry, with the rainy season typically beginning in October and lasting until June.


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quote:
Originally posted by josh:

Careful, or I may bring up the Stanley Cup, which you folks may, or may not, see again on your side of the border. Or the fact that it's unlikely ever to call Toronto home.


It always calls Toronto home, considering it actually resides in the Hockey Hall of Fame.

In case you were feeling nostalgic

http://tinyurl.com/7xa92

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Yeah, well any kind of relief pitching and the series would have (and should have) gone 4-2 the other way.
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quote:
Originally posted by josh:
Careful, or I may bring up the Stanley Cup, which you folks may, or may not, see again on your side of the border. Or the fact that it's unlikely ever to call Toronto home.

Oh. Funny guy. Pbthththththth!


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What a stupid thread.

Canadians (probably due to the realities of the northern climate) don't have the same cultural affinity for baseball as Americans. Nor do we have the same deep seeded love for soccer as many Europeans. Nor do we harbour a great national affection for Aussie rules football, cricket or jai-alai. For many Canadians, hockey is the only sport that matters.

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On a few occasions(notably during the Mariners 2001 season) I have been yelled at, had beverages spilled on me, shoved, and screamed at to "GO BACK TO THE F**KIN' U.S., YOU YANKEE PIECE OF SH*T" because I had the audacity to ask servers to switch ONE of the multitude of TV's at local sports bars from a Canucks' regular season game to a Mariners' PLAYOFF game.

Well, maybe that's because they were in a Vancouver watching the Vancouver Canucks play when you turned teh channel to a Seattle Mariners game.

If you feel that there's some kind of cultural bigotry at work, may I sugest attempting to turn the channel from NASCAR to hockey at any southern USian watering hole and see what kind of reaction you get.


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quote:
Originally posted by black_dog:
What a stupid thread.

Canadians (probably due to the realities of the northern climate) don't have the same cultural affinity for baseball as Americans. Nor do we have the same deep seeded love for soccer as many Europeans. Nor do we harbour a great national affection for Aussie rules football, cricket or jai-alai. For many Canadians, hockey is the only sport that matters.


Well, maybe that's because they were in a Vancouver watching the Vancouver Canucks play when you turned teh channel to a Seattle Mariners game.

If you feel that there's some kind of cultural bigotry at work, may I sugest attempting to turn the channel from NASCAR to hockey at any southern USian watering hole and see what kind of reaction you get.


Excuse me, I had asked the server to change the channel on ONE (COUNT IT: ONE TV) out of about two dozen, and by no means was it a primary screen!! There were at least five other people in the bar wearing Mariners caps/jackets/jerseys, etc.!!

If no one in Vancouver follows the Mariners, then why did Rogers Sportsnet pick up Mariners games for the past THREE seasons.

Oh, and calling this a 'stupid' thread and suggesting I had it coming just illustrates the kind of hostile and violent attitude I've had to put up with for no apparent reason.

I HAVE NEVER HAD TO PUT UP WITH SUCH OUTRIGHT TRASHING OF SOMETHING THIS PERSONALLY IMPORTANT TO ME. ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO CALL ME STUPID OR TELL ME TO 'GET A LIFE' WITHOUT KNOWING CAN GO AND FUCK THEMSELVES!!!!!

THE ONLY THING MY FATHER AND I HAD TOGETHER WAS BASEBALL, AND PEOPLE HERE JUST WANT TO GO AND SHIT ALL OVER IT!! FUCK OFF, ALL OF YOU!!!

I'M NOT POSTING TO THIS BOARD AGAIN - PEOPLE THINK IT'S O.K. FOR ME TO BE THREATENED AND BEAT UP FOR ASKING ONE LITTLE TV OUT OF TWO DOZEN TO BE CHANGED TO A BALLGAME.

GO DRINK YOUR MOLSON CANADIAN, BUY YOUR OVERPRICED ROOTS GEAR, CHOKE ON YOUR TIM HORTON DONUTS. THIS IS THE TREATMENT PEOPLE GET FOR WANTING TO PRESERVE SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO THEMSELVES!!!

BTW, KEEP YOUR LITTLE SHOTS AT ME TO YOURSELVES - YOU DON'T KNOW ME AND I WON'T BE READING THEM, ASSHOLES!!


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Your welcome VanMan (in re: to me not being flippant/rude) or anything. I think it's really all about the people you meet, and I'm thinking sports bars don't nessecarilly pump out the best sorts of people. Hockey is all in Canada -- and Vancouver is no diffrent. To want to change the channell during a Canucks game is blasphemy, regardless of how reasonable you think you are.


Wow I was doing multiple things well composing this message as such I posted well after that all I can say is holy shitaroo!

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Coyote
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posted 05 October 2004 08:24 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Whoa.

Serious, not being condescending, man:

Did that feel good? I can see that there is some pain and aggression being worked out there. Hope you find a space, either here or elsewhere, to help you centre some things.


Be well.


From: O’ for a good life, we just might have to weaken. | Registered: Jan 2004  |  IP: Logged
BleedingHeart
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posted 05 October 2004 09:11 PM      Profile for BleedingHeart   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Baseball is a good excuse to drink beer outside in the sun but then again who needs an excuse. Otherwise the game is even more boring than soccer.

Lots of people play baseball and have fun.

A lot of parents however are not putting their kids in baseball. Reason: soccer is a one hour time slot, little league baseball 2-3 hours.


From: Kickin' and a gougin' in the mud and the blood and the beer | Registered: Nov 2002  |  IP: Logged
arborman
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posted 05 October 2004 09:22 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I like playing baseball, though I don't much care about watching it (or any other sport really, other than sailing).

As a result, I don't have a lot of desire to see limited Parks Board funds go to propping up a professional sport that doesn't have much traction in the community. I don't want them propping up[ any professional sports, to be honest.

To be honest, Parks Board funds should be spent on communnity members PLAYING sports, not watching them. It's not like the VPD is rollig in cash, and their mandate is to the citizens, not the sports franchises.

Little League can be played on any well maintained diamond. Minor hockey, Ultimate frisbee, whatever, should be supported equally. Ultimate in particular, Vancouver produces regular world champion teams and they don't even get a mention in the paper.

Professionals are just that, and should have the ability to support themselves.

That doesn't mean I don't support the city underwriting or helping out multi-use facilities that might include professional teams, but I don't think they are a priority.


From: I'm a solipsist - isn't everyone? | Registered: Aug 2003  |  IP: Logged
Hephaestion
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posted 05 October 2004 09:24 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
Could everybody on this thread please SHUT UP!!!

VanMan2000 is having a seriously hard time of things right now (see today's active topics) and dragging this thread out is NOT helping!!

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edited to add: sorry for sounding bossy, but... well, I'm concerned, and I didn't take time to be diplomatic.

[ 05 October 2004: Message edited by: Hephaestion ]


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arborman
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posted 05 October 2004 09:26 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Yikes, didn't read the whole thread before posting. Why start a threads to insult people, then fly off the handle when they get annoyed?

Poor bastard.


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Michelle
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posted 05 October 2004 09:37 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
It's time to close this thread now. I didn't even see what happened in this thread until it was brought to my attention just now, because I was so focused on the "goodbye" thread.

VanMan2000, if you're reading this, I'm sorry the thread worked out the way it did. Please check your "goodbye" thread - we are really hoping to hear from you.

[ 05 October 2004: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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