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Black Dog
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posted 20 January 2005 12:19 PM      Profile for Black Dog   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
US right attacks SpongeBob video

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US conservative groups are up in arms over a music video featuring children's TV heroes such as the cheerful cartoon character SpongeBob SquarePants.
Focus on the Family and other groups say the video - a remake of the Sister Sledge hit, We Are Family - is a vehicle for pro-gay propaganda.


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posted 20 January 2005 12:27 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Coming soon to MuchMusic, a music video starring Stephen Harper and Vic Toews singing "You AREN'T Family."
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 20 January 2005 12:28 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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We Are Family Foundation celebrates our common humanity and the vision of a global family by creating and supporting programs that inspire and educate individuals of all ages about diversity, understanding, respect and multiculturalism; and to support those who are victims of intolerance.

Boy that's a real scary concept to the bigots, isn't it?

We Are Family Foundation

They MAY have seen this site first however:

We Are Family


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posted 20 January 2005 12:33 PM      Profile for quelar     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Where do I turn them off?

Seriously....it's a CARTOON, let me say that again..

It's a CARTOON.

He can't be gay cause he's NOT REAL!!


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posted 20 January 2005 12:37 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The article refers to the religious right's earlier attack on Tellytubby TinkWinky, allegedly gay because he carried a handbag.

They are so obsessed with finding sexual allusions everywhere - reminds me of some of the Catholic school directives from my childhood or even earlier - girls shouldn't wear patent leather shoes because the little boys could see the reflection of their panties, etc.


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posted 20 January 2005 12:40 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I remember the Tinky Winky controversy. The Grope and Flail ran an editorial titled "Tinky Winky Kinky?"

Some people's minds are seriously unoccupied, yes?


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posted 20 January 2005 12:48 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Some people have waaayyyyy too much time on their hands.
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quote:
Originally posted by lagatta:
girls shouldn't wear patent leather shoes because the little boys could see the reflection of their panties, etc.

Yeah -- assuming the girls had their legs a couple of feet apart with their toes pointed in. Seems like a pretty hard position to hold long enough for a boy to realize it and position himself accordingly.


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My boys are big-time fans. If continued exposure to Spongebob reduces the risk that they'll grow up to be homophobic bigots, well, that's a chance I'm willing to take.
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 20 January 2005 12:58 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK, he MAY be a cartoon to YOU Quelar but James Dobson "knows him" personally!

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"Does anybody here know SpongeBob?" Dr. James C. Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, asked the guests Tuesday night at a black-tie dinner for members of Congress and political allies to celebrate the election results.


New York Times


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posted 20 January 2005 12:59 PM      Profile for brebis noire     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I watch SpongeBob everyday with my kids - it's one cartoon we all love. It's got that subversive and absurd humour that three-year-olds and thirty-year-olds both "get".

When I started watching a few months ago, I remember thinking it was a prime right-wing target; I couldn't put my finger on the reason, but wondered if it had anything to do with SpongeBob being so pointedly non-violent and...spongy. He's just a really friendly and funny guy who wouldn't knowingly hurt anybody, even the archevil Plankton.

I've also seen the show poke fun at the absurdity of exploiting labour for profit. I highly recommend it, especially now!


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I don't know about SpongeBob, but Patrick . . . .
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quote:
Originally posted by josh:
I don't know about SpongeBob, but Patrick . . . .

Um, if anyone on that show is gay it's Squidward.


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posted 20 January 2005 02:40 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know - I remember an episode where Patrick was disappointed because Squidward didn't want to either dance or squaredance with Patrick. I think it was the episode where Squidward tries a crabby patty for the first time. It was just a really fast gag, but I think it was a SIGN.
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Stop it! Stop it! Stop it!

You people are so cruel!

Have we learned NOTHING from the Cheney debacle?


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First it was Ernie and Bert, then the Teletubby with the purse and now Spongebob. No wonder we've seen an explosion of homosexuality in the past twenty years.

Hm, we don't have an icon for "tongue in cheek"


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Goodness knows what that would lead to an increase of!
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posted 20 January 2005 08:32 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why is James Dobson watching Spongebob in the first place? Is that his intelligence level? What a moron. FOF's ravings will no doubt turn more people on to Spongebob, like all the folks who discovered Teletubbies after some asshole do-gooder ranted and raved about that show as well.
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quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
Why is James Dobson watching Spongebob in the first place? Is that his intelligence level? What a moron. FOF's ravings will no doubt turn more people on to Spongebob, like all the folks who discovered Teletubbies after some asshole do-gooder ranted and raved about that show as well.

You hardly have to be a moron to like spongebob. I love that cartoon and I am almost 36 and not so dumb!

I'd imagine Dobson is just trying to find something to have a fuss over. Or maybe he bought stock in Nickelodeon and is trying to get more viewers for the show.


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There are many people that enjoy Spongebob. I enjoy watching it and laughing with a slightly unnatural giddiness.
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I guess this means we'll be seeing lots of Spongebob costumes at this year's Gay Pride parades. Just like a few years back, when Tinky Winky costumes were de rigeur.

How Republicans manage to consistently achieve this level of stupidity is beyond me. They must practice at it every single day.


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posted 20 January 2005 11:10 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by beluga2:
I guess this means we'll be seeing lots of Spongebob costumes at this year's Gay Pride parades. Just like a few years back, when Tinky Winky costumes were de rigeur.

How Republicans manage to consistently achieve this level of stupidity is beyond me. They must practice at it every single day.


Well, yes, every day on Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, et. al. Practice makes perfect. . . little raving fascists


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Well, he *does* wear tighty whities.


What's more, I think he has crabs.


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posted 21 January 2005 05:24 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0403/spongebob.html

Pastor Exposes Perverted Little Cartoon Character


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posted 21 January 2005 07:33 PM      Profile for Caribookidca   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We are Family video and news Story at MSNBC link.
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Great video. I've forgotten how much I loved the song "We Are Family". Hope miliions of people see this video.
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What a piss-off. My computer couldn't play the video even if I had the right software.
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 21 January 2005 09:38 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I LOVE IT!

Man, Dobson and Co. have really gone off the deep end. If this were a sane country, they would lose all credibility immediately and be laughed out of business.

Unfortunately. . .


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Why worry about cartoon sponges when the moral standards of real live cuttlefish are in danger?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4188495.stm

There's more to be worried about. Spongebob isn't the only sponge whose sexuality is suspect. I found out here that "Most poriferans [sponges] that reproduce by sexual means are hermaphroditic and produce eggs and sperm at different times."

SHOCKING!


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Lizards are doing it too!
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clearly a conspiracy of left-wing biologists
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NY Times Editorial: Nautical Nonsense

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It's not that Dr. Dobson has a problem with Mr. SquarePants per se. He is angry, rather, about a video made for grade schools by the We Are Family Foundation that features SpongeBob and other TV characters. It doesn't mention sex. But the foundation's Web site says this: "I pledge to have respect for people whose abilities, beliefs, culture, race, sexual identity or other characteristics are different from my own." How could anyone be against that?

Dr. Dobson is. He has denounced the video as a bait-and-switch, one that uses cartoons to legitimize a group that will corrupt children with a homosexual agenda.

We find it strange, actually, that the intolerant Dr. Dobson has not taken aim at SpongeBob himself, who is naughty and rude enough to give many parents pause. After "The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie" came out, a Christian family Web site made a long list of worrisome bits, including "cartoon rear male nudity, repeatedly," "pinching of banner staff between nude buttocks" and "suggestion of sadomasochism in transvestitism."

As any weary parent knows, America's children spend billions of hours watching movies and shows like that, absorbing underwear jokes, flatulence gags and mushy messages of tolerance until their brains run out their ears.

There may be a threat in all that, but Dr. Dobson and his allies seem to have missed it entirely.



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Mr. Cranky weighs in -- All Hail The Cranky One!!!

SpongeBob GayPants and the Fundamentalist Agenda

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So apparently, SpongeBob SquarePants is gay. And should be banned. Then arrested. Then burned to a spongy crisp in the everlasting fires of Christian Hell.

This inference comes courtesy of "Dr." James Dobson, chief ayatollah of the Colorado-Springs-based Christian-wacko think tank "Focus on the Family." "Dr." Dobson once represented the kind of wild-eyed evangelical nutball whose prophetic utterings were relegated to "News of the Weird" columns. Now, he's pretty much the face of mainstream Republicanism.

So expect lots more talk in the next four years about who's gay and who's not. The irony, of course, is that no one in this latest episode is gayer than "Dr." James Dobson himself. This should be stunningly obvious to anyone with even a passing understanding of psychology or human nature. We hate in others what we fear in ourselves.

As a heterosexual, you know how often I think about gay sex? I DON'T. "Dr." Dobson, on the other hand, seems to think about gay sex 3,289 times a day. Granted, you don't have to be gay to recognize that SpongeBob SquarePants has a nice ass, but when "Dr." Dobson finds himself enraptured by the demonic allure of SpongeBob's tight, angular buttcheeks, he sees near-irresistible temptation. This temptation lies everywhere: In children's programming, in the shapes of passing clouds, and in gay strip clubs where evangelical gay-bashers spend much of their free time immersed in necessary "research" into the gay lifestyle. Hell, temptation must lie in the very image of Christ himself, nailed to a cross like that all half-naked and sweaty.

Obsessing over hot, sweaty man-ass is only one of the treats we can expect from the Fundamentalist agenda as it jams its engorged, intolerant religion down everyone's throats in the next four years. Bombing an abortion clinic may well get you on the fast track to the Supreme Court. Teaching evolution may well get you thrown in jail. By the way, evolution isn't a "theory" any more than the fact that the Earth is round is a "theory." You know what's a "theory" and a flimsy one at that? God. But you don't see me sneaking into churches in the heart of Jesusland and slapping "God is a theory" stickers all over the bibles.



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posted 28 January 2005 02:26 AM      Profile for maestro     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Somebody gave me a "Plankton" watch for Christmas...you dont' suppose they were trying to...say something??
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majorvictory64 has a point, these folks spend a lot of time worrying about who's getting it on. When it comes to that I usually only worry whether I am getting any. Also I think that mj64 has written the closest thing to erotica I have seen on babble.

Whimsical article addressing this issue.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-helvarg26jan26,1,7600221.story?ctrack=1&cset=true


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If SpongeBob and other so-called subversive comics are a threat to Amerikan family values and the Chri$tian religion, it doesn't say much for the strength of those values in the first place, does it?
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That Mr. Cranky article is hilarious! "Hot, sweaty man-ass" - hahaha! "As a heterosexual, you know how often I think about gay sex? I DON'T. "Dr." Dobson, on the other hand, seems to think about gay sex 3,289 times a day." NO KIDDING!
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Toronto1 came to my office last week and interviewed my boss (I work for a gay magazine) about the SpongeBob scandal. My boss answered with a straight face that since "square" was used in school to describe kids that don't fit in, and young gay boys often didn't, it might well be that SpongeBob was gay. He hastened to add that, given his "geek chic" wardrobe, SpongeBob might not yet be ready for Church Street and may need some time to mature and develop his tastes.

He went on to explain that the religious right has always had it out for for sponges, not only because of their hermaphroditic sexuality but for their history as a means of contraception.


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A quibble: SpongeBob's ass isn't so much sweaty as it is absorbant.
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Aarch - this is killing me! I just know there's a great 'absorbshun' punchline just hanging there, but I can't get my bat off my shoulder....
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posted 28 January 2005 02:48 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Oliver Cromwell:
Aarch - this is killing me! I just know there's a great 'absorbshun' punchline just hanging there, but I can't get my bat off my shoulder....

You watch your public remarks about the use of that fine . . . product or you'll get slapped with a lawsuit, you betcha.


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Hmmmppphh — gives new meaning to the line by the Jerry Seinfeld character Elaine Bennis about certain sexual partners being "sponge-worthy"...
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Oh, that's bad. Ew!
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quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
I don't know - I remember an episode where Patrick was disappointed because Squidward didn't want to either dance or squaredance with Patrick.

Credits:

Patrick Star..... Bill Fagerbakke

Need I say more?


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http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/cartoons/

Run, Sponge Bob, run.


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quote:
Originally posted by koan brothers:
http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/cartoons/

Run, Sponge Bob, run.


That's priceless.


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James A. Farley Middle schoolers rally behind SpongeBob

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James A. Farley Middle School students in Stony Point, New York, sported SpongeBob SquarePants pajamas or pants in support of the cartoon character's right to be himself. We told you last week about SpongeBob being under fire by right-wing Christian wackos for being gay.

SpongeBob Support Day was the idea of seventh-grade class president Jordan Uffer. "He's a cartoon," the 12-year-old Uffer says. "I felt there was no reason for them to say that he was homosexual, and there isn't a real difference between gay people and not-gay people. We're all human beings."


(emphasis mine)

from the mouths of babes...


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This is HILARIOUS, and worth the click, just for the pix **alone**!!!

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If the group Focus on Family wants to plaster “Warning: Product May Have Come In Contact With GAYS” stickers on videos, I think maybe they should take a long witch-hunting heterosexual look back to the oh-so wholesome 1950’s. If you want “unnatural” sexual behaviour and “improper” gender identity, one has to look no further than the world’s most famous antiestablishmentarian gender-bending wabbit.

Watch, as he shows SpongeBob how it’s done…



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If anyone can find Spongebob's lesson for blowing bubbles, I'd really appreciate it.

"Take it A-R-O-U-N-D town! Take it A-R-O-U-N-D town!"

"[something?] three times: DON'T FORGET IT!!"

etc., etc., ...loved it.


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What really makes me feel sad about this is there are gonna be a bunch of Bible-thumping Moms and Dads who are going to say "Kids, you can't watch Spongebob, because Spongebob is gay and gay is evil" and, kids, not knowing any better, will beleive it.

Sickening, when you think about it.


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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 06 February 2005 01:50 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestion:
This is HILARIOUS, and worth the click, just for the pix **alone**!!!


HEPH! Shhhhhhhhh!!!! Be vewy vewy qwiet. . . Mista Dobson maybe a' huntin that wascally wabbit."


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posted 06 February 2005 03:09 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I remember a hilarious episode of Daffy Duck from 1947, set in "Gay Paree", replayed every few years since. Insidious sexual connotations all over the place, all heterosexual as far as I can recall, but I think Daffy did a cross-dressing bit and hit on one the local gendarmes. God, it was funny. You just don't see this stuff anymore. Cartoon slapstick. The closest I've seen is Krusty the Klown on the Simpsons.

Here's a link (follow the carrots) to:
"Bugs Bunny, Transvestite" (1947)
http://www.sewergator.com/gfz/bbt/ddt01.htm

[ 06 February 2005: Message edited by: Boom Boom ]


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