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Michelle
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posted 07 July 2007 04:06 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Happy lucky seven day.

On the news, they're saying that tons of people are getting married today due to the date. And apparently next year's 08/08/08 date is expected to be even bigger, because 8 is considered a lucky number in Chinese culture.


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posted 07 July 2007 07:58 AM      Profile for marzo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If you turn the number 8 sideways it becomes the symbol for 'infinity'. That's scientific proof that 8 really does have magickal powers!
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posted 07 July 2007 10:12 AM      Profile for West Coast Greeny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
Happy lucky seven day.

On the news, they're saying that tons of people are getting married today due to the date. And apparently next year's 08/08/08 date is expected to be even bigger, because 8 is considered a lucky number in Chinese culture.


It also happens to be the date of the opening ceremonies of the Beijing Olympics.


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marzo
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posted 07 July 2007 12:17 PM      Profile for marzo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just realized that next Friday is the 13th. Does the good magic of 777 cancel out Friday the 13th, or is it the other way round?
Can anybody explain this to me? I'm really worried about it. I just don't know what to do.

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posted 07 July 2007 01:39 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
07/07/07 Live Earth, just got done watching Madonna, what a wonderfully fierce woman she is at 50. Though never a great fan of her music, I am a huge fan of her, as a woman!

And then John Mayer's waiting for the Earth to Change, just rocked!

Is no one else watching this?

[ 07 July 2007: Message edited by: remind ]


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posted 07 July 2007 02:16 PM      Profile for aka Mycroft     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Surprised to have just seen Yusuf Islam, the former Cat Stevens, performing a set at Live Earth's Hamburg venue. I thought he'd given up performing for religious reasons? He sounded in fine form in any case.
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posted 07 July 2007 02:26 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Saw an interview with him a while back and he said he now realizes it is his responsibility to return to the public venue, as a Muslim and as an activist for peace.

On that note another fierce woman, Melissa Etheridge, just blew me away with her words!


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posted 07 July 2007 03:33 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
CTV has Seamus somebody from Canada AM doing thier emceeing. Cripes, can't CTV find someone knowedgeable about music? He got Dave Matthews Band mixed up with UB40.
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posted 07 July 2007 04:52 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lol, boom boom, I know, but who cares, I can't wait for Roger Waters, oh man, and Pink Floyd. Went to their last concert tour in Van x 2, it was a spiritual experience.
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posted 07 July 2007 05:16 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is Pink Floyd performing tonight? I know Roger Waters is going to make an appearance, haven't heard anything about the band.
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posted 07 July 2007 05:19 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
CTV has been cutting away from bands in the middle of their performances, to take us to another city.
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posted 07 July 2007 05:24 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
really? I have been watching the selected ones all the way through. Macy Gray, Bon Jovi, Lenny Kravitz, and yes they said Roger Waters and Pink Floyd.
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posted 07 July 2007 06:38 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good to hear Pink Floyd will be on - I guess after Police?

And, yes, CTV has been cutting from band to band in the middle of performances throughout the day. I guess with so much to cover, it's inevitable.

Lots of bands I've never heard before, and this kind of venue isn't exactly favourable to music quality. Metallica and a few other bands sounded like just so much noise through my TV and stereo system. The simple bands come through the best, the less complex the music the better it sounds. Kanye West and Alicia Keys sounded great. I guess of all the really loud bands, the one that filtered the best (to my ears, at least) was Bon Jovi.

ETA: Spinal Tap just about blew my stereo apart. Holy crap, they were loud - especially after they filled the stage with bass players!

ETA: My favourite performer I guess was Macy Gray doing "Sexual Revolution". I almost needed a cold shower after that performance.

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posted 07 July 2007 07:35 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If you're watching LE on CTV, you probably won't see more than two minutes of the Police, and maybe not Pink Floyd at all. For the past three hours, CTV has been showing highlights of LE, and not a live feed. I don't subscribe to any of the music channels that might be doing a live feed from LE. Rats. CTV sucks.
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posted 07 July 2007 07:55 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes Macy Gray was great, Roger Waters and Pink Floyd, sans David Gilmour, was awesome too, as always.

John Mayer was my fav though I think.

Bon Jovi was Bon Jovi as always too.


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posted 07 July 2007 08:18 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What network were you watching? CTV did not carry Pink Floyd.

ETA: I've been surfing through six CTV channels here, all the way from Montreal to Victoria, and every one of them is showing the same three-hour "highlights of LE" with just one song from Police ("message in a bottle") and no coverage of Pink Floyd whatsoever. I get one MTV channel, and they're not showing LE at all.

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posted 08 July 2007 04:49 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Do I need Madonna telling me to be environmentally-friendly?

Here's her UK house:

Yeah, probably not.

How about Bon Jovi?

I'm thinking no.

Maybe the audience should have been telling THEM to give a crap about the environment. They probably have an environmental footprint of 1000 worlds, as opposed to my footprint of 1.8 worlds.


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posted 08 July 2007 04:57 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ha! Coincidentally, I just read this in the NYT:

quote:
Even harsher has been criticism in newspapers of the energy-expending habits of many performers, some of whom, it has been reported, flew their private planes halfway across the world to play in the concerts.

“The artists formerly known as huge carbon footprints” was the acerbic headline of a newspaper commentary by Marina Hyde in The Guardian on Saturday.

Mr. Gore and Mr. Wall have tried to answer those critics, responding to Mr. Geldof’s snipe about goals by asking the public to commit to a seven-point pledge.

It includes demanding an international treaty to cut carbon emissions by 90 percent, working for energy efficiency at home and in the workplace and reducing individual carbon pollution to become “carbon neutral.”


Yeah. But, that's for everyone else. Not for the big stars who can destroy the earth as much as they like, as long as they pretend they give a shit by getting publicity shots at a big concert. Whatever. Thanks for coming out.


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posted 08 July 2007 05:27 AM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michelle, I hear you on the cynical aspects of this, as really for many here too, it would be preaching to the choir. For example, I have been environmentally low with my footprint for 20 years or more. So I many enjoyed the really good music.

However, that is not the case for a great many young people. The information presented, I am sure, would have been enlightening for millions watching and attending. 2 Billion people watched and or, attended. If only 50% got active it is still a huge amount of people.

Moreover, many artists really made additional political commentary, about sexism, racism, war and political corruption in America.

As for Geldof, he has freaking room to talk.


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posted 08 July 2007 06:02 AM      Profile for marzo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think what's happening here at that concert is that these stars are not content to be entertainers, they want to be Leaders of Great Cause without actually having to do anything real.
If the message about our global environmental crisis is not getting through to most people in the industrialized countries, it's not going to make much difference if some narcissistic fool sings, dances, and spouts empty self-righteous slogans.
Maybe Madonna got bored with buying African children to keep as pets. I hate all those 'tin-pot gods' with their pretensions of 'saving the world'.
None of this will do anything to raise consciousness or to change the economic system that is destroying nature and humanity.

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posted 08 July 2007 06:16 AM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In Calgary, we aren't getting the broadcast on cable at all.
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posted 08 July 2007 06:17 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Heh. What marzo said, every word of it. Especially about Madonna.
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posted 09 July 2007 02:10 PM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
However a lot of griping is coming from the right who are just trying to diminish the concerts. Most of these critics themselves couldn't careless about the issue, but just want to use the unavoidable hypocrisy to their benefit.

As for rock stars with huge carbon footprints... It would be interesting to see how much these events contribute to the overall energy consumption in the world. And of course there is an inherent contradiction in the high consumption lifestyles that mass popular culture promotes.

But like I said, with anything to do with the environment, it is almost impossible to not appear hypocritical, so I would cut this thing some slack, as long as the connections are made.

Right now we are in a losing battle everywhere, and slightly raised awareness of global warming is not translating into action on the ground, as one can see in places like Toronto which can't even recycle properly or prevent litter.

As for Geldof, he himself is developing delusions of grandeur like his appearance in the Pink Floyd the Wall movie. Bono too. It's time for others to come along.


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posted 09 July 2007 02:58 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by ceti:
Right now we are in a losing battle everywhere, and slightly raised awareness of global warming is not translating into action on the ground, as one can see in places like Toronto which can't even recycle properly or prevent litter.

Maybe it's not translating into "action on the ground" because we're allowing spokesdorks like Madonna and Bon Jovi and other people who consume as much as a small developing nation to co-opt the movement and turn it into a big, "Oh, I went and saw Madonna, ooooh, eeee, she's so wonderful and she really caaaaaares, and now I'm an environmentalist too because I travelled all this way to come to the concert!" sort of thing.

Honestly, if someone has been living under a rock for the last decade and knows absolutely nothing about the environment or green practices, I somehow doubt that watching a bunch of artists who turn conspicuous consumption into a second career parade themselves as champions of the environment is going to give them much useful information.


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posted 09 July 2007 03:07 PM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That said, "Just like a Prayer" is pretty great.

Er, that's just "Like a Prayer." Sheesh, do I know how to ruin a good joke by sounding all square.

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posted 09 July 2007 03:11 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, I like her music well enough.
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posted 09 July 2007 10:44 PM      Profile for Lard Tunderin' Jeezus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My neighbour's cat had a litter of lucky kittens on 777. Anybody interested in adopting a lucky cat in eight weeks should PM me.
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posted 09 July 2007 11:39 PM      Profile for laine lowe     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I will have to join the cynics on this one. Pink Floyd's David Gilmour backed out of it as did UK's indie group Arctic Monkeys because it was a meaningless gesture that caused more environmental harm in the making than good.

Who is Gore going to convince with this extravaganza? Most people, youth in particular, are already on board with the environmental crisis we're dealing with. You know the message is old when even freaking Walmart is greening itself for PR purposes. Maybe Gore is going to be a late entry contender for the Democratic bid afterall.

These coordinated concerts have as much impact on changing the political climate as Live8 or Live Aid did. Africa is still being screwed by the IMF, World Bank and western leaders. These events mostly provide entertainment and maybe some sense of people coming together to make changes without ever having to leave their sofa.


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