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Michelle
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posted 22 January 2005 10:17 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Midnight at the Oasis. God, that song is so problematic on so many levels it makes my head spin. Just heard it now on CBC - it's been years since I heard it last. Lord almighty, what orientalist crap.
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posted 22 January 2005 10:23 PM      Profile for No Yards   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not a big fan of the song, but Amos Garrett, whose claim to fame is the guitar solo on that song used to be a regular at the Middle Deck in Halifax. I used to go there every time he came to town back in the 80's.
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posted 27 January 2005 03:49 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have always particularly hated the lyrics to Afternoon Delight, not because they're problematic, but just because they're awful. Although the way the song was used in a gag on Arrested Development was hilarious (super-funny show, huge crush on Jason Bateman).

What I find interesting is actually the lyrics to some of the older songs like Hot Child In The City, Centerfold, Sexy and 17 etc that really conveyed a different, IMO more personal way of sexualising teenage girls. Not saying it was bad or good, but it was definitely different.


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posted 27 January 2005 04:42 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Some of Robert Johnson's lyrics are pretty darn misogynist. Like "Me and the Devil Blues", and "32-20 Blues". Yikes.
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posted 27 January 2005 06:15 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Keenan:
Some of Robert Johnson's lyrics are pretty darn misogynist. Like "Me and the Devil Blues", and "32-20 Blues". Yikes.

Mike maybe I just have a one-track mind, but I'd say that both those songs are metaphors for sex, and not explicit songs about violence against women. The second one maybe, but I think the first one is *definitely* about sex and not *actual* beatings. I'm curious to know when they were written. Recently?


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Nirvana had some amazing songs, in terms of music, but now that I look back the lyrics were problematic to say the least.

I heard the beginning of one of my fav's at a nice lounge in Paris. I yelled out to some new friends that I loved the song. Then the chorus began where Cobain yells at top volume:

RAPE ME, MY FRIEND!
RAPE ME, AGAIN!

I got some strange looks that night. Of course one individual just stared at me and smiled. Yeeegh!


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posted 27 January 2005 06:53 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Anchoress:

Mike maybe I just have a one-track mind, but I'd say that both those songs are metaphors for sex, and not explicit songs about violence against women. The second one maybe, but I think the first one is *definitely* about sex and not *actual* beatings. I'm curious to know when they were written. Recently?


No, in the 1930s I believe. You could be right about the metaphor, though.


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posted 27 January 2005 09:26 PM      Profile for kingblake     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Keenan:
No, in the 1930s I believe. You could be right about the metaphor, though.
Well, they were recorded in the mid-30s, but possibly written even before that.

Similarly, my brother-in-law insists that Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood is about spousal abuse. I don't think so.


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posted 27 January 2005 10:34 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Beatles' (John Lennon's) "Run For Your Life" is horrific

quote:
I'd rather see you dead little girl
than to be with another man
You better keep your head little girl
or you won't know where I am

Better run for your life if you can little girl
Hide your head in the sand little girl
Catch you with another man that's the end, little girl


Lennon later disowned the song, but it comes close to ruining what I count as The Beatles' best album.


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posted 28 January 2005 12:01 AM      Profile for candle     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Los Angeles by X is troubling. Apparently Exene wrote it about her friend Faye Hart (aka Farrah Fawcett-Minors) who has very anti-semitic and left Los Angeles because she felt it was being over run by Jews, Mexicans, Blacks, homosexuals, and idle rich. It is hard to tell if Exene is sympathetic to Faye Hart or disgusted with her.

Also, Guilty of Being White by Minor Threat is problematic. Some have tried to rationalize what was going through Ian MacKaye's head. Given his youth at the time and what he got up to in the future. I am willing to give MacKaye the benefit of the doubt and blame it on youth and a lack of understanding of centuries of white privilege.


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posted 28 January 2005 12:12 AM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by kingblake:
Similarly, my brother-in-law insists that Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood is about spousal abuse. I don't think so.

Well it could be, but I don't see an abuser apologizing for being "edgy."


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posted 28 January 2005 12:16 AM      Profile for kingblake     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
plus, the song's originally written and sung by a woman.
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posted 28 January 2005 12:27 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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posted 28 January 2005 12:36 AM      Profile for verbatim   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Shining. Finger.

What. The. Hell?


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posted 28 January 2005 12:46 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Japan...The world's biggest question mark.
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posted 28 January 2005 09:50 AM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by kingblake:
plus, the song's originally written and sung by a woman.

Well, so is "Stand By Your Man"...


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posted 28 January 2005 09:54 AM      Profile for peppermint     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Aside from the sexual kinks, Japan is actually pretty "normal" compared to the rest of Asia. (By normal, I mean less strange to someone from North America.)

Just to keep on topic though, surely Turning Japanese is an odd metaphor for masturbation.

[ 28 January 2005: Message edited by: peppermint ]


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posted 28 January 2005 10:39 AM      Profile for Lard Tunderin' Jeezus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Little Bitty Pretty One is a mighty catchy tune, but it began to creep me out after my girls were born....

Little bitty pretty one
Come on and talk-a to me
A-lovey dovey dovey one
Come sit down on my knee

Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah
etc.

Tell you a story
Happened long time ago
A-little bitty pretty one
I've been watchin' you grow


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posted 28 January 2005 12:17 PM      Profile for kingblake     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"Songs with lyrics so problematic they make you cringe": About a quarter of the reggae I listen to.
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posted 28 January 2005 12:22 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Throw in about half of all rap/hiphop, and about 98% of all "gangsta" rap.

Oh, and Maurice Chevalier singing "Thank Heaven for Little Girls".


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posted 28 January 2005 12:27 PM      Profile for N.R.KISSED     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
"Songs with lyrics so problematic they make you cringe": About a quarter of the reggae I listen to.

I imagine you're refering to DanceHall which is to reggae what the like's of BLink 182 are to punk, i.e. loosely derived from but not to blame on.


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posted 28 January 2005 12:29 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...I really, really, really, really hate the English translation of Du Hast by Rammstein.

Accordin' to my Deutsche sprechin friends the lyrics are technically the correct translation, but just don't go properly to English.


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posted 28 January 2005 12:39 PM      Profile for kingblake     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by N.R.KISSED:
I imagine you're refering to DanceHall which is to reggae what the like's of BLink 182 are to punk, i.e. loosely derived from but not to blame on.
First, you imagine wrong. Second, not all (or even most) dancehall is crappy or derivative. Some is damned good. I imagine you're referring to Shaggy or some other watered down crap.

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posted 28 January 2005 12:44 PM      Profile for cynic     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How 'bout "More than Words" by Extreme (no really that's what the band is called). The song is about a guy trying to convince his girlfriend that it doesn't matter if she says she loves him, she has to put out before he's convinced. All packaged up in a sweet little ballad that I've heard has been used as wedding songs. Eek.
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quote:
First, you imagine wrong. Second, not all (or even most) dancehall is crappy or derivative. Some is damned good. I imagine you're referring to Shaggy or some other watered down crap.

Firstly it would be helpful if you were more specific. How is anyone to know what "quarter of the reggae" you listen to is.

Secondly the general merits of dancehall are debatable. I was merely implying that offensive homophobic and sexist lyrics certainly play a more prominent part of dancehall than roots reggae or Dub.


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posted 28 January 2005 01:02 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anything that William Shatner (forgive me, Captain) "performs."
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posted 28 January 2005 02:34 PM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Few things make me cringe more than the lyrics to Paul Anka's "Having my Baby".
quote:

(You're) Having My Baby


Sung by: Paul Anka with Odia Coates
Written by: Paul Anka

PAUL: Havin' my baby
What a lovely way of sayin' how much you love me
Havin' my baby
What a lovely way of sayin' what you're thinkin' of me
I can see it, face is glowin'
I can see in your eyes, I'm happy you know it....

BOTH: That you're havin' my baby
PAUL: You're the woman I love and I love what it's doin' to ya
BOTH: Havin' my baby
PAUL: You're a woman in love and I love what's goin' through ya

PAUL: The need inside you, I see it showin'
Whoa, the seed inside ya, baby, do you feel it growin'?
Are you happy you know it? That you're....

BOTH: Havin' my baby

ODIA: I'm a woman in love and I love what it's doin' to me
BOTH: Havin' my baby
ODIA: I'm a woman in love and I love what's goin' through me

PAUL: Didn't have to keep it
Wouldn't put ya through it
You could have swept it from you life
But you wouldn't do it, no, you wouldn't do it

BOTH: And you're havin' my baby

ODIA: I'm a woman in love and I love what it's doin' to me
BOTH: Havin' my baby
ODIA: I'm a woman in love and I love what's goin' through me

PAUL: Havin' my baby (havin' my baby)
What a lovely way of sayin' how much you love me



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posted 28 January 2005 02:36 PM      Profile for spatrioter     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Kylie Minogue in "Kids": "The purpose of a woman is to love her man."
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posted 28 January 2005 04:49 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"Jet Boy, Jet Girl" Elton Motello

Can you tell what's on my mind
She's with him it's driving me wild
I'd like to hit him on the head until he's dead
The sight of blood is such a high
Ooo hooo hooo hooo
He gives me head

We made it on a Ballroom Blitz
I took his arms and kissed his lips
He looked at me with such a smile my face turned red
We booked a room into the Ritz
Ooo hooo hooo hooo
He gives me head

Jet boy jet girl
I'm gonna take you 'round the world
Jet boy I'm gonna make you penetrate
I'm gonna make you be a girl
Ooo hooo hooo hooo
Jet boy jet girl

.....etc.....


Bitchin' tune though, I still love it.

Pretty much any Ted Nugent song is problematic, if by problematic you mean "Politically Incorrect". "Strangle Hold" probably being the most notable. Still though, being a child of Detroit News stations of the '60's and '70's, you can have my copy of "Motor City Madhouse" when you pry my cold, dead fingers from it.

I guess the ultimate, and oft mentioned problematic lyrics from a poetical perspective have to be America's line from "Horse With no Name".... "In the desert, you can't remember your name for their ain't no one for to give you no pain."

And, the phrase "If I had a rocket launcher, some son of a bitch'd be dead" isn't lyrical at all, Bruce Cockburn fans.


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posted 28 January 2005 05:02 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"Jet Boy Jet Girl" is indeed a great tune. I guess the "hit him on the head until he's dead" part is a bit problematic, and the rest of the song would be problematic for the religious right (in fact, I've seen it cited as an example of a song that can't be played on the radio in the US despite the fact that it doesn't contain any forbidden words per se).
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posted 28 January 2005 05:18 PM      Profile for Tommy Shanks     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
To me, this song is a prime example of why the Stones used to have such a misogynistic image.It just about oozes raunch as it chugs along.

THE ROLLING STONES lyrics - "Stray Cat Blues"

(M. Jagger/K. Richards)

I hear the click-clack of your feet on the stairs
I know you're no scare-eyed honey.
There'll be a feast if you just come upstairs
But it's no hanging matter
It's no capital crime
I can see that you're fifteen years old
No I don't want your I.D.
And I can see that you're so far from home
But it's no hanging matter
It's no capital crime
Oh yeah, you're a strange stray cat
Oh yeah, don'tcha scratch like that
Oh yeah, you're a strange stray cat
I bet, bet your mama don't know you scream like that
I bet your mother don't know you can spit like that.
You look so weird and you're so far from home
But you don't really miss your mother
Don't look so scared I'm no mad-brained bear
But it's no hanging matter
It's no capital crime
Oh, yeah
Woo!
I bet your mama don't know that you scatch like that
I bet she don't know you can bite like that.
You say you got a friend, that she's wilder than you
Why don't you bring her upstairs
If she's so wild then she can join in too
It's no hanging matter
It's no capital crime
Oh yeah, you're a strange stray cat
Oh yeah, don'tcha scratch like that
Oh yeah, you're a strange stray cat
I bet you mama don't know you can bite like that
I'll bet she never saw you scratch my back


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posted 28 January 2005 05:49 PM      Profile for mahsbah     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Don't forget "Some Girls" (i.e. "Black girls wanna get fucked all night, I ain't got that much jazz.")

"Also, Guilty of Being White by Minor Threat is problematic. Some have tried to rationalize what was going through Ian MacKaye's head. Given his youth at the time and what he got up to in the future. I am willing to give MacKaye the benefit of the doubt and blame it on youth and a lack of understanding of centuries of white privilege. "

I think the song is clearly about individuals being blamed for larger social problems. It's not a racist song.


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"Love for Sale" Words and music by Cole Porter 1930

When the only sound in the empty street,
Is the heavy tread of the heavy feet
That belong to a lonesome cop
I open shop.
When the moon so long has been gazing down
On the wayward ways of this wayward town.
That her smile becomes a smirk,
I go to work.

Love for sale,
Appetizing young love for sale.
Love that's fresh and still unspoiled,
Love that's only slightly soiled,
Love for sale.
Who will buy?
Who would like to sample my supply?
Who's prepared to pay the price,
For a trip to paradise?
Love for sale
Let the poets pipe of love
in their childish way,
I know every type of love
Better far than they.
If you want the thrill of love,
I've been through the mill of love;
Old love, new love
Every love but true love
Love for sale.

Appetizing young love for sale.
If you want to buy my wares.
Follow me and climb the stairs
Love for sale.
Love for sale.


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posted 28 January 2005 07:55 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What's wrong with it?
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike Keenan:
"Jet Boy Jet Girl" is indeed a great tune. I guess the "hit him on the head until he's dead" part is a bit problematic, and the rest of the song would be problematic for the religious right (in fact, I've seen it cited as an example of a song that can't be played on the radio in the US despite the fact that it doesn't contain any forbidden words per se).

So they should play the orginal version: Ça plane pour moi by Plastic Bertrand.


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posted 28 January 2005 08:16 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Also a bit problematic- most Dayglo Abortions songs- "My Girl", "Suicide", etc. etc. etc. I presume it's meant to be silly more than anything, though.

Back in my college radio days, though, I did once play their song "Homophobic Sexist Cokeheads" and dedicate it to George W. Bush. Nobody complained.


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posted 28 January 2005 11:04 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tommy Shanks:
To me, this song is a prime example of why the Stones used to have such a misogynistic image.

Used to? All that's changed as they've got older is that their sexist swagger has become increasingly more pathetic.


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A long time ago (in my more innocent days), I first heard the song (Don't Fear) The Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult. I was shocked that they could actually put a song on the radio that seemed to be advocating suicide. I thought there must be some deeper meaning I was missing. I was wrong - it's actually a song about a suicide pact. I still find the song chilling.

quote:
All our times have come
Here but now they’re gone
Seasons don’t fear the reaper
Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain..we can be like they are
Come on baby...don’t fear the reaper
Baby take my hand...don’t fear the reaper
We’ll be able to fly...don’t fear the reaper
Baby I’m your man...

Valentine is done
Here but now they’re gone
Romeo and juliet
Are together in eternity...romeo and juliet
40,000 men and women everyday...like romeo and juliet
40,000 men and women everyday...redefine happiness
Another 40,000 coming everyday...we can be like they are
Come on baby...don’t fear the reaper
Baby take my hand...don’t fear the reaper
We’ll be able to fly...don’t fear the reaper
Baby I’m your man...

Love of two is one
Here but now they’re gone
Came the last night of sadness
And it was clear she couldn’t go on
Then the door was open and the wind appeared
The candles blew then disappeared
The curtains flew then he appeared...saying don’t be afraid
Come on baby...and she had no fear
And she ran to him...then they started to fly
They looked backward and said goodby...she had become like they are
She had taken his hand...she had become like they are
Come on baby...don’t fear the reaper


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I find Rocket Launcher most poetic indeed.

The imprecation is a logical conclusion of hte song about gross human-rights outrages in Central America, including the bombing of a refugee camp.

Shades of Mayakovsky ...

or our Autonomistes:

"Pas de pitié"!


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Back in the early 90's some college guys from Lethbridge University put out an absolutely awful album called Brocket 99. It contained a totally racist parody of the 50's rock song "Chantilly Lace" by the Big Bopper. I don't remeber all of the words, nor do I remember the title, but it was definitely worse than anything yet posted here.

"She's got a wiggle in her walk, and a big fat cock
There nothing in the world like a native girl
To make the love go down"

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posted 29 January 2005 01:40 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Magoo:

Oh, and Maurice Chevalier singing "Thank Heaven for Little Girls".

"Thank heaven for little girls
for little girls get bigger every day!

Thank heaven for little girls
they grow up in the most delightful way!"

Chevalier thinks grown-up girls are delightful? What a pervert!


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posted 29 January 2005 01:48 AM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ya, I know the words. I just always found it kind of creepy all the same. Why not just sing "Thank heaven for grown-up women", if that's what you like?
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Surprisingly....two christian songs.

That kinda girl and America Again.


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Here's a message board that had the same topic 6 months ago. They kindly point out "Every Breath You Take", by The Police.
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I'm pretty sure that song got me laid one evening.

Was it Carol Pope that sang these lyrics in a song, "I'm a victim of fashion, fashion and access-o-ries." Doh! Anyway, High school Confidential was good. (_8(|)

ssshooooom "Just a castaway, an island lost at sea, oh"

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posted 29 January 2005 03:38 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I always thought Tom Jones was kinda goofy and had ants in his pants back in the 60s, but my eight year-old brain didn't pick up on his wacky lyrics:

"Well she's all you'd ever want,
She's the kind I'd like to flaunt and take to dinner.
Well she always knows her place.
She's got style, she's got grace, She's a winner.
She's a Lady. Whoa whoa whoa, She's a Lady.
Talkin' about that little lady, and the lady is mine.
Well she's never in the way
Something always nice to say, Oh what a blessing.
I can leave her on her own
Knowing she's okay alone, and there's no messing.
She's a lady. Whoa, whoa, whoa. She's a lady.
Talkin' about that little lady, and the lady is mine.
Well she never asks for very much and I don't refuse her.
Always treat her with respect, I never would abuse her.
What she's got is hard to find, and I don't want to lose her
Help me build a mountain from my little pile of clay. Hey, hey, hey.
Well she knows what I'm about,
She can take what I dish out, and that's not easy,
Well she knows me through and through,
She knows just what to do, and how to please me.
She's a lady. Whoa, whoa, whoa. She's a lady.
Talkin' about that little lady and the lady is mine.
Yeah yeah yeah She's a Lady
Listen to me baby, She's a Lady
Whoa whoa whoa, She's a Lady
And the Lady is mine
Yeah yeah yeah She's a Lady
Talkin about this little lady
Whoa whoa whoa whoa
Whoa and the lady is mine
Yeah yeah She's a Lady
And the Lady is mine."

And then there's Delilah...


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posted 29 January 2005 03:53 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Don't Fear the Reaper is a brilliant song. BOC's best. Really. Given that the guitar is all uplifting, then a really depressing lyric set. Aye, makes me feel like trash.
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quote:
Originally posted by Papal_Bull:
Don't Fear the Reaper is a brilliant song. BOC's best. Really. Given that the guitar is all uplifting, then a really depressing lyric set. Aye, makes me feel like trash.


That's strange. I've often thought the same thing about the Reaper song but never mentioned it to anyone. Eery, haunting tune it is. What if it were possible for other musician's to write good-better lyrics for great tunes ?. Your song would be yours until someone could improve on or add to it. Royalties all around, like a pyramid scheme, ha ha


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posted 29 January 2005 04:23 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by al-Qa'bong:
Well she's never in the way
Something always nice to say, Oh what a blessing.
I can leave her on her own
Knowing she's okay alone, and there's no messing.

Always treat her with respect, I never would abuse her.

Help me build a mountain from my little pile of clay.

She can take what I dish out, and that's not easy,


Well forget about 'Lay Lady Lay', this song sounds like it was written about a dog, lol.


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posted 29 January 2005 06:11 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Magoo:
They kindly point out "Every Breath You Take", by The Police.

I think that the fact that most people took the song to be a normal love song was a lot more disturbing than the song itself.


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posted 29 January 2005 06:42 PM      Profile for Panic Girl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Keenan:
Also a bit problematic- most Dayglo Abortions songs- "My Girl", "Suicide", etc. etc. etc. I presume it's meant to be silly more than anything, though.

Back in my college radio days, though, I did once play their song "Homophobic Sexist Cokeheads" and dedicate it to George W. Bush. Nobody complained.


Dayglo! Excellent. Back in MY college radio days, I played Hide the Hamster... then again, I was on late night.


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I once played a Margaret Thatcher set that included these:

Stand Down Margaret by the English Beat,
Miss Maggie by Renaud and Maggie by The Exploited.

I must have been doing a show pretty late to have been able to play the last one.

Another time I followed a Bing Crosby tune with Rockbottomoff by the Pansy Division.

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posted 29 January 2005 09:30 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Magoo:
Here's a message board that had the same topic 6 months ago. They kindly point out "Every Breath You Take", by The Police.

Yeah, there should be a whole separate category for stalker songs. In that vein, how about "Private Eyes" by Hall and Oates? Love their music, but the lyrics to that particular song are rather disturbing. "You can't escape my eyes". Ick.


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posted 29 January 2005 11:48 PM      Profile for beluga2     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm amazed no one's mentioned this yet:

quote:
The Crystals - "He Hit Me (It Felt Like a Kiss)" (written by Gerry Goffin & Carole King)

He hit me and it felt like a kiss
He hit me, but it didn't hurt me
He couldn't stand to hear me say
That I'd been with someone new
And when I told him I had been untrue

He hit me, and it felt like a kiss
He hit me, and I knew he loved me
If he didn't care for me
I could have never made him mad
But he hit me, and I was glad

Yes, he hit me, and it felt like a kiss
He hit me, and I knew I loved him
And then he took me in his arms
With all the tenderness there is
And when he kissed me, he made me his



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posted 29 January 2005 11:58 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
Yeah, there should be a whole separate category for stalker songs. In that vein, how about "Private Eyes" by Hall and Oates? Love their music, but the lyrics to that particular song are rather disturbing. "You can't escape my eyes". Ick.

Hall and Oates songs make me cringe. Sometimes, it's because of the lyrics.


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posted 30 January 2005 12:41 AM      Profile for West Coast Lefty     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
How 'bout "More than Words" by Extreme (no really that's what the band is called). The song is about a guy trying to convince his girlfriend that it doesn't matter if she says she loves him, she has to put out before he's convinced. All packaged up in a sweet little ballad that I've heard has been used as wedding songs. Eek.

Wow, I'm not crazy about that song, but I didn't get that meaning from it at all. I just take it as a guy saying to his girlfriend that the faux-romantic "I love you" statement is not enough to cover up the problems in the relationship. Where does it say anything about her having to "put out"? I thought he just wanted her to show some genuine emotion and feeling. But hey, I'm not a big Gary Cherone fan, especially after his disastrous stint with Van Halen (I'm a Roth-era VH purist).

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Don't forget "Some Girls" (i.e. "Black girls wanna get fucked all night, I ain't got that much jazz.")

Or how about "Under My Thumb" ("the way she talks when she's spoken to, it's down to me, the change has come, she's under my thumb"). As much as I hate those lyrics, I must say that the song itself is really hypnotic. I always took "Some Girls" as a parody and I never heard "Stray Cat Blues," but "Under My Thumb" is really inexcusable in terms of the lyrics if you take them literally. Jagger and Richards have claimed that a lot of these songs are meant as satires or critiques - but I know a lot of you won't buy that.

One surprising entry in this topic area - Neil Young's "Down by the River" ("Down by the river/I shot my baby/Dead"). What a bizarre song!!! The verses are so beautiful and heartfelt and then the chorus literally blows all those feelings away with a murder theme! What the heck is that about??? And again, I love the song despite that horrific chrous theme. I guess you could lump in Jimi Hendrix's "Hey Joe" in a similar vein.


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posted 30 January 2005 01:07 AM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lagatta:
I find Rocket Launcher most poetic indeed.

The imprecation is a logical conclusion of hte song about gross human-rights outrages in Central America, including the bombing of a refugee camp.

Shades of Mayakovsky ...

or our Autonomistes:

"Pas de pitié"!


100 percent agreement on Rocket Launcher. I posted it somewhere around here not too long ago. I read the history online of how much grief Cockburn got for that song. Basically he's been having to interpret it for interviewers for the last 20 years.

As for Stones songs, I'm amazed no one's mentioned "Brown Sugar."

Gold coast slave ship bound for cotton fields,
Sold in a market down in new orleans.
Scarred old slaver know he’s doin’ alright.
Hear him whip the women just around midnight.
Ah brown sugar how come you taste so good
(a-ha) brown sugar, just like a young girl should
A-huh.

Drums beating, cold english blood runs hot,
Lady of the house wond’rin where it’s gonna stop.
House boy knows that he’s doin’ alright.
You should a heard him just around midnight.
Ah brown sugar how come you taste so good
(a-ha) brown sugar, just like a black girl should
A-huh.

I bet your mama was a tent show queen, and all her boy
Friends were sweet sixteen.
I’m no schoolboy but I know what I like,
You should have heard me just around midnight.

Ah brown sugar how come you taste so good
(a-ha) brown sugar, just like a young girl should.

I said yeah, I said yeah, I said yeah, I said
Oh just like a, just like a black girl should.

I said yeah, I said yeah, I said yeah, I said
Oh just like, just like a black girl should.

As for the nominations for the most sexist/misogynist songs of all time, here's my nominee ("ick" alert), originally made a hit by Bobbi Martin back in the 60s, redone by Shania Twain who should have known better:

For the Love of Him

When he opens the door and says I'm home
Be aware of the look in his eyes
They tell you the mood he's in
What kind of day its been

They'll be times where he wont say a word
And you'll wonder if its something you've said
A gentle touch of your hand
Will tell him you understand

For the love of him
Make him your reason for living
Give all the love you can give him
All the love you can
For the love of him
Make him your reason for living
Give all the love you can give him
All the love you can

He's a man and a man has to try
Let them run let them fall let them cry
His world wont fall apart
If you take him into your heart

For the love of him
Make him your reason for living
Give all the love you can give him
All the love you can
For the love of him
Make him your reason for living
Give all the love you can give him
All the love you can

He's a man and a man has to try
Let them run let them fall let them cry
His world wont fall apart
If you take him into your heart

For the love of him
Make him your reason for living
Give all the love you can give him
All the love you can
For the love of him
Make him your reason for living
Give all the love you can give him
All the love you can


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I believe that GG Allin takes the cake. Or Anal Cunt.

Or any white power band.


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posted 30 January 2005 01:57 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:

Hall and Oates songs make me cringe. Sometimes, it's because of the lyrics.


Scott, I knew there was more than one reason why I loved you!! I actually started a thread a month or so ago of songs that get me down, and the song that sparked the idea was a H&O song.


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posted 30 January 2005 08:45 AM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Papal_Bull:
I believe that GG Allin takes the cake. Or Anal Cunt.

Or any white power band.


Well, GG Allin and the white power bands for sure; I thought A. C. normally just did weird covers (like their Oi verion of "Stayin' Alive".

You could also add the Mentors (I feel bad just admitting that I know who they are).

[ 30 January 2005: Message edited by: Mike Keenan ]


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This one horrified me from the very first time I heard it. It sounds great, musically speaking... and then you actually start *listening* to the lyrics...

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/l/lemonheads/82287.html


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quote:
my brother-in-law insists that Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood is about spousal abuse. I don't think so

In the hands of Nina Simone, the song is transformed into a heartfelt meditation on civil rights, as was the old standard "I Hold No Grudge" and, most brilliantly, Brecht/Weill's "Pirate Jenny."


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quote:
As for Stones songs, I'm amazed no one's mentioned "Brown Sugar."


I once amused my friends by pretending to defend that song as a "sociological explication of sexual servitude under slavery". Or words to that effect.

Not that its really disturbing, but I've always found Cat's In The Cradle rather problematic in its assumptions about how much time kids really want to spend with their parents. Personally, I'm glad to have had a father who worked hard to put food on the table and help me pay for university. And let's face it, by the time you hit early adolescence or so, the last people you wanna be hanging out with 24-7 are your parents.

I think Cat's In The Cradle is more reflective of aging baby-boomers wanting to relive their youth by skipping out on work and playing softball with the kids all day than it is of children's actual feelings toward their parents.

Admittedly, my father's job never took him far from home(just a few blocks away in fact), and he did devote a lot of time to his kids. Nevertheless, I've always thought that "my parents never paid enough attention to me" is just something that adult scriptwriters put into the mouths of fictional children.


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posted 30 January 2005 01:10 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
As for the nominations for the most sexist/misogynist songs of all time, here's my nominee ("ick" alert), originally made a hit by Bobbi Martin back in the 60s...

I kinda like that one, maybe for nostalgic reasons more than anything.

If you hated it, you probably won't be a big fan of this popular Jack Jones number:

(written by Burt Bacharach & Hal David)

"Hey! Little Girl
Comb your hair, fix your makeup
Soon he will open the door
Don't think because there's a ring on your finger
You needn't try anymore

For wives should always be lovers too
Run to his arms the moment he comes home to you
I'm warning you...

Day after day
There are girls at the office
And men will always be men
Don't send him off with your hair still in curlers
You may not see him again

For wives should always be lovers too
Run to his arms the moment he comes home to you
He's almost here...

Hey! Little girl
Better wear something pretty
Something you'd wear to go to the city and
Dim all the lights, pour the wine, start the music
Time to get ready for love
Time to get ready
Time to get ready for love"

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Virtually every Bruce Cockburn lyric makes me cringe. Or giggle. Easily one of the worst lyricists of all time.

Burton Cummings should be exiled to Kerblukistan for rhyming "arrival" and "Bibles"... and that's just the worst wordplay in the worst song by the only lyricist who can compete with Bruce Cockburn for pure dreadfulness.

And Gord Downey's misuse of the phrase "focus group" in "Scared" nearly cost a radio its life once.


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posted 30 January 2005 01:23 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by pebbles:
Virtually every Bruce Cockburn lyric makes me cringe. Or giggle. Easily one of the worst lyricists of all time.

Hey, them's fightin' words, pebbles!


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posted 30 January 2005 02:28 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Keenan:

Well, GG Allin and the white power bands for sure; I thought A. C. normally just did weird covers (like their Oi verion of "Stayin' Alive".

You could also add the Mentors (I feel bad just admitting that I know who they are).

[ 30 January 2005: Message edited by: Mike Keenan ]


Anal Cunt aren't literal racists, they just try to be the world's biggest collective asshole. They're pretty fucked up. Most of their early stuff wasn't too bad. But if you look at their new stuff, Seth Putnam just kinda got off the rocker and went all out trying to offend. Interestingly, his girlfriend informed me a few weeks ago that he is out of a drug induced coma.


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Oh yeah: Paul McCartney. "Deliverance". Kerblukistan.
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quote:
Originally posted by West Coast Lefty:

Or how about "Under My Thumb" ("the way she talks when she's spoken to, it's down to me, the change has come, she's under my thumb"). As much as I hate those lyrics, I must say that the song itself is really hypnotic. I always took "Some Girls" as a parody and I never heard "Stray Cat Blues," but "Under My Thumb" is really inexcusable in terms of the lyrics if you take them literally. Jagger and Richards have claimed that a lot of these songs are meant as satires or critiques - but I know a lot of you won't buy that.

One surprising entry in this topic area - Neil Young's "Down by the River" ("Down by the river/I shot my baby/Dead"). What a bizarre song!!! The verses are so beautiful and heartfelt and then the chorus literally blows all those feelings away with a murder theme! What the heck is that about??? And again, I love the song despite that horrific chrous theme. I guess you could lump in Jimi Hendrix's "Hey Joe" in a similar vein.


'under my thumb' is pretty dicey. it's unfortunate because I really like some of their stuff--it sounds good, but the men behind the music, to put it bluntly, disgust me. I can't STAND jagger! I watched this bio on him awhile back and he seems like a really awful person, and I will NEVER understand why women (and possibly men?) find him so attractive!! he's so gross. I think I'm just irked because he can go around sleeping with half the world and he's just living the rock star life, being a 'man', but how often do you hear women being praised for that? I know this is an old debate, and maybe not suitable for this thread, but I had to say something. I have a low threshold for double standards.


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I have always wondered whether "Carby's Castle" burned with Cecil's beloved wife and her lover still within, or not. Kristofferson is one of my all time favourite lyricists, but he does have a dark side, so I've never been sure.

[ 30 January 2005: Message edited by: James ]


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quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:

I think that the fact that most people took the song to be a normal love song was a lot more disturbing than the song itself.


Similarly, the interpretation of "Born in the U.S.A" as a patriotic anthem by the masses has always left me in disbelief.

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LTJ: Yeah, that's one of my pet peeves too!
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posted 30 January 2005 04:37 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, Reagan (or rather his speechwriters) tried to claim that both "BIT-USA" and "Pink Houses" were evidence of a resurging patriotism among America's youth

Someone should really add that to the "Are Americans Stupid?" thread.


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posted 30 January 2005 04:50 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Lard tunderin' jeesus:
Similarly, the interpretation of "Born in the U.S.A" as a patriotic anthem by the masses has always left me in disbelief.

Or "American Woman".


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posted 30 January 2005 05:28 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, PB, or for that matter, "The Future's So Bright" or "I'm Too Sexy"... some people actually took those at face value.

Just goes to show you there is no limit to dim-wittedness.


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posted 30 January 2005 05:34 PM      Profile for pebbles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestion:
Yes, PB, or for that matter, "The Future's So Bright" or "I'm Too Sexy"... some people actually took those at face value.

They were self-consciously silly.

Bruce Cockburn, Burton Cummings, and Sir Paul, on the other hand, don't know that they suck.


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posted 30 January 2005 05:46 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by pebbles:
They were self-consciously silly.

They were meant to be self-mocking, and to mock the people who thought that way.

quote:
Bruce Cockburn, Burton Cummings, and Sir Paul, on the other hand, don't know that they suck.

Bruce Cockburn does not suck! Take that back! Sir Elton, on the other hand... even HE knows he sucks!


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posted 30 January 2005 05:49 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Speaking of murder, there's Kenny Rogers' "Ruby, Don't Take Your Love to Town."

Dave Barry has fun with Neil Diamond in his Book of Bad Songs:

I am, I said
To no one there
And no one heard at all
Not even the chair

Barry speculates that Diamond had already rejected:

So I ate a pear
Like Smokey the Bear
There were nits in my hair


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posted 30 January 2005 06:00 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestion:
Sir Elton, on the other hand... even HE knows he sucks!

No he doesn't. Elton John is pure rock and roll

Now, for the beefiest debate ever to rage in a high-school. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. John's sons drawing or good ol' magic stamps?


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posted 30 January 2005 08:17 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by al-Qa'bong:

I kinda like that one, maybe for nostalgic reasons more than anything.

If you hated it, you probably won't be a big fan of this popular Jack Jones number:

(written by Burt Bacharach & Hal David)

"Hey! Little Girl
Comb your hair, fix your makeup
Soon he will open the door
Don't think because there's a ring on your finger
You needn't try anymore
]


Yeah, that's pulling an oldie out I forgot about.

Here's one Limbaugh used to play on his show, by Sandy Posey way back in '66 or so. (alert: super cringe factor):

BORN A WOMAN
Sandy Posey


It doesn't matter if you're rich or poor
Or if you're smart or dumb
A woman's place in this old world
Is under some man's thumb
And if you're born a woman
You're born to be hurt
You're born to be stepped on, lied to, cheated on
And treated like dirt
Ah if you're born a woman
You're born to be hurt
A woman's lot is to give and give
And go on giving
A woman's got to love and lose
And go on living
Well I was born a woman
I didn't have no say
And when my man finally comes home
He makes me glad it happened that way
Because to be his woman
No price is too great to pay
Yes I was born a woman
I'm glad it happened that way
Oh I was born a woman (fade out)


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posted 30 January 2005 10:08 PM      Profile for chimo        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
my heart will go on -- celine dion
has the most repetitive boring myrics of any song i can think of, off the top of my head.

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posted 30 January 2005 11:30 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Here's one Limbaugh used to play on his show, by Sandy Posey way back in '66 or so.

This thread is really bringing back those auld memories!

I have Born a Woman on a K-tel record.
[ed.] http://www.ktelclassics.com/twentyfoursolid.html

[ 30 January 2005: Message edited by: al-Qa'bong ]


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posted 31 January 2005 01:54 AM      Profile for chimo        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
has anyone mentioned john ashcroft's let the eagle soar?

Let the eagle soar,
Like she's never soared before.
From rocky coast to golden shore,
Let the mighty eagle soar.
Soar with healing in her wings,
As the land beneath her sings:
"Only god, no other kings."
This country's far too young to die.
We've still got a lot of climbing to do,
And we can make it if we try.
Built by toils and struggles
God has led us through.

Let the eagle soar,
Soar with freedom in her breast
So long as she's appropriately dressed
And not exposing her chest.
As the lands beneath her say
"Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away."
But we shall overcome.
We won't let the First Amendment
stand in our way.
O, let the eagle soar,
but the Bill of Rights ignore
'cause we're in a state of war
Yes, let the mighty eagle soar.

here's a vid:
http://gdam.ffem.org/~geoff/lettheeaglesoar_cnnclip_reenc.mp3


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posted 31 January 2005 03:31 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bah.

You've obviously never seen Kate Smith singing God Bless America at the Omni in Philadelphia before a Flyers game.

That was ONE chilling sight!

And to think that the Flyers were the last NHL team to win the Stanley Cup with a completely Canadian roster.


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posted 31 January 2005 03:46 AM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by al-Qa'bong:
You've obviously never seen Kate Smith singing God Bless America at the Omni in Philadelphia before a Flyers game.

The Omni was where the old Atlanta Flames played. Philadelphia played at The Spectrum.


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posted 31 January 2005 04:42 AM      Profile for Lard Tunderin' Jeezus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Bruce Cockburn, Burton Cummings, and Sir Paul, on the other hand, don't know that they suck.
I concur that Bruce doesn't suck, on disc or in concert. Furthermore, for a good decade, surrounded by a band, Burt didn't suck. Neither did Pauly, when he actually took advice from songwriting partner John to tone down his most treacly tendencies.

And Michelle?
Here's my favorite stalker song, although this one runs a close second.


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posted 31 January 2005 08:07 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ha, the Arrogant Worms one is funny.

If we're getting into the "oldies", then the one I like to make fun of the most is "Bobby's Girl":

quote:
(You're not a kid anymore)
(You're not a kid anymore)

When people ask of me
What would you like to be
Now that your not a kid anymore
(You're not a kid anymore)

I know just what to say
I answer right away
There's just one thing
I've been wishing for...

I want to be Bobby's girl
I want to be Bobby's girl
That's the most important thing to me...

And if I was Bobby's girl
If I was Bobby's girl
What a faithful, thankful girl I'd be

Each night I sit at home
Hoping that he will phone
But I know Bobby has someone else
(You're not a kid anymore)

Still in my heart I pray
There soon will come the day
When I will have him all to myself...

I want to be Bobby's girl
I want to be Bobby's girl
That's the most important thing to me...

And if I was Bobby's girl
If I was Bobby's girl
What a faithful, thankful girl I'd be
What a faithful, thankful girl I'd be

I want to be Bobby's girl
I want to be Bobby's girl
I want to be Bobby's girl



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posted 31 January 2005 10:09 AM      Profile for Tommy Shanks     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Bruce Cockburn, Burton Cummings, and Sir Paul, on the other hand, don't know that they suck.

I'd add Eric Clapton to that list.


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posted 31 January 2005 10:27 AM      Profile for Lard Tunderin' Jeezus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I'd add Eric Clapton to that list.
I'd agree there. Not as a guitarist - he's added nicely to some tasty tracks by other people. But as an 'artist'?

Major suckage.


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posted 31 January 2005 10:31 AM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Neko Case would agree (this song was written with her old band, Maow):
quote:

Your songwriting is flaccid
Your covers give me fits
And that's why I think, Clapton, you're the shits


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posted 31 January 2005 11:05 AM      Profile for fuschiashock     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like "Guilty of Being White". I wouldn't say it's a racist song at all. It's about being tired of being put in a box and blamed for problems he didn't cause.

"Every Breath You Take" is downright creepy.


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posted 31 January 2005 11:26 AM      Profile for voice of the damned     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm surpised no one's mentioned this one yet. Though I do consider it a guilty pleasure, especially the chorus of guys in the background going "bom bom bom bom" between lines. Love that.

I rode my bicycle past your window last night
I roller skated to your door at daylight
It almost seems like you're avoiding me
I'm OK alone but you've got something I need, well

{Refrain}
I've got a brand new pair of roller skates
You've got a brand new key
I think that we should get together and
Try them on to see
I been lookin' around awhile
You got something for me
Oh, I got a brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key

I ride my bike, I roller skate, don't drive no car
Don't go too fast, but I go pretty far
For somebody who don't drive, I been all around the world
Some people say I done all right for a girl

I asked your mother if you were at home
She said yes, but you weren't alone
Oh, sometimes I think that you're avoiding me
I'm OK alone but you got something I need, well

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posted 31 January 2005 11:38 AM      Profile for pebbles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bruce Cockburn suck-diddely-ucks.

So does Stephen Fearing.


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posted 31 January 2005 12:12 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
ACK!!!

You know what really sucks? Pebbles alleged taste in music.


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posted 31 January 2005 02:14 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tommy Shanks:

I'd add Eric Clapton to that list.


I'm down with bashing the POST Cream Clapton. But nobody say anything negative about Strage Brew.


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quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
ACK!!!

You know what really sucks? Pebbles alleged taste in music.



How do you know that? I've only told you what sucks.


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posted 31 January 2005 09:28 PM      Profile for Granola Girl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's one that's been bothering me for weeks - it's an excerpt from the Maroon5 song Harder to Breathe. Their new album, Songs About Jane, is currently at the top of the charts and being played everywhere...

"How dare you say that my behavior is unacceptable/
So condescending unnecessarily critical/
I have the tendency of getting very physical/
So watch your step cause if I do you'll need a miracle..."


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posted 03 February 2005 08:03 PM      Profile for Anthony_G     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I never listened to the lyrics of this 70's tune until a few years ago..always liked the melody, but i'm now conflicted by these lyrics.


I'm Not in Love

I'm not in love, so don't forget it.
It's just a silly phase I'm going through.
And just because I call you up,
Don't get me wrong, don't think you've got it made.
I'm not in love, no no, it's because...

I like to see you, but then again,
That doesn't mean you mean that much to me.
So if I call you, don't make a fuss -
Don't tell your friends about the two of us.
I'm not in love, no no, it's because...

I keep your picture upon the wall.
It hides a nasty stain that's lying there.
So don't you ask me to give it back.
I know you know it doesn't mean that much to me.
I'm not in love, no no, it's because...

Ooh, you'll wait a long time for me.
Ooh, you'll wait a long time.
I'm not in love, I'm not in love...


Why is he so anal about admitting he loves her? What a freak, eh?

[ 03 February 2005: Message edited by: Anthony_G ]


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I dunno, Anthony_G (Garsh, I hope no relation to the horrid Kenny), but the feeling behind the song (especially considering the whispered "big boys don't cry" line) is a lot like Tears of a Clown if ya ask me.
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It's not Garsh, i promise you that.

Oh well, yeah you could be right there. Smokey is more interested in admitting his feelings plain and simple, though..this other guy keeps himself safe in the promise he'll keep being a self absorbed arse when it comes to his feelings. That's what I got from it anyway.


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quote:
Originally posted by Granola Girl:
Here's one that's been bothering me for weeks - it's an excerpt from the Maroon5 song Harder to Breathe. Their new album, Songs About Jane, is currently at the top of the charts and being played everywhere...

"How dare you say that my behavior is unacceptable/
So condescending unnecessarily critical/
I have the tendency of getting very physical/
So watch your step cause if I do you'll need a miracle..."



Why does it bother you?


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I'll confess that I'm not familiar with the song, but my reading of the excerpt is that it's a threat to beat a woman to death if she gets out of line. I'll add my voice to those who say that's "bothersome".
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I don't know the song, but is it possible they are exposing rather than promoting a certain way of thinking? If not: Yeah, that's bullshit.
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quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
I'll confess that I'm not familiar with the song, but my reading of the excerpt is that it's a threat to beat a woman to death if she gets out of line. I'll add my voice to those who say that's "bothersome".

If that reading is correct, and it's quite reasonable to consider that it is, you do realize, don't you, that the singer/lyricist is adopting a persona, a character... And is not doing so very sympathetically.


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According to Martin Scorcese's documentary about the blues, when a blues singer sings about how bad his woman is, he is really singin about how bad his boss is. Singing about how bad your boss was in Mississippi usually resulted in you being at the end of a rope.

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Keenan:
Some of Robert Johnson's lyrics are pretty darn misogynist. Like "Me and the Devil Blues", and "32-20 Blues". Yikes.

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I'm suprised nobody mentioned the woman beater song by Eminem. Lyrics too problematic to post.

Kim


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posted 05 February 2005 07:34 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
ACK!!!

You know what really sucks? Pebbles alleged taste in music.


That's so witty! I remember when I used to be a musical snob. Putting down other people's music was such fun. I'm so glad I've outgrown that since high school.

[ 05 February 2005: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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quote:
Originally posted by Tim Kennelly:
I'm suprised nobody mentioned the woman beater song by Eminem. Lyrics too problematic to post.

Kim


Have you noticed that in that song, Eminem does it from both his and Kim's point of view?


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quote:
Originally posted by Tim Kennelly:
Back in the early 90's some college guys from Lethbridge University put out an absolutely awful album called Brocket 99. It contained a totally racist parody of the 50's rock song "Chantilly Lace" by the Big Bopper. I don't remeber all of the words, nor do I remember the title, but it was definitely worse than anything yet posted here.

"She's got a wiggle in her walk, and a big fat cock
There nothing in the world like a native girl
To make the love go down"

[ 29 January 2005: Message edited by: Tim Kennelly ]



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quote:
Originally posted by Tim Kennelly:
Back in the early 90's some college guys from Lethbridge University put out an absolutely awful album called Brocket 99. It contained a totally racist parody of the 50's rock song "Chantilly Lace" by the Big Bopper. I don't remeber all of the words, nor do I remember the title, but it was definitely worse than anything yet posted here.

"She's got a wiggle in her walk, and a big fat cock
There nothing in the world like a native girl
To make the love go down"

[ 29 January 2005: Message edited by: Tim Kennelly ]


The parody of the Big Bopper song "Chantilly Lace" that you refer to here was called "Handsome Face", and appears - so far as I know - only on a compilation CD of stuff of varying quality from various people called "Not So Brocket". Available at www.brocket99.net, the owner of the website there has put together a collection of stuff that was insipred by Brocket 99, which originally came out in 1986. None of this stuff - nor "Handsome Face" - appeared on the original Brocket 99 parody radio show. These are things done years afterward by people who found some humor in the original radio show, that's all. No one knows the identity of any of the people who did "Handsome Face" or any of the other songs on the compilation CD. They're just one-offs that have circulated for years in the underground circuit and occasionally come to light if someone like Michael at Brocket99.net gets wind of it and puts it together for the so-called "fans". There is another parody group called the Dick Twang Band, whose material has sometimes also been mistakenly thought of as part of Brocket 99, although this is untrue as well. They have a couple CD's available at www.dicktwang.com. Incidentally, Brocket 99 was not produced at the Lethbridge University.

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I'd like to insert Supertramp at this point. Do I have to suggest a lyric, or can we take it as read that their entire lyrical output sucks dogs eggs? I'd rather not have to sift through their smug, self-regarding pretentious dross.

Oh, ok then.


Ahem.

'Take a look at my girlfriend
She's the only one I got
Not much of a girlfriend
Never seem to get a lot
Take a jumbo across the water
Like to see America
See the girls in California
I'm hoping it's going to come true
But there's not a lot I can do
Could we have kippers for breakfast
Mummy dear, Mummy dear
They got to have 'em in Texas
Cos everyone's a millionaire
I'm a winner, I'm a sinner
Do you want my autograph
I'm a loser, what a joker
I'm playing my jokes upon you
While there's nothing better to do
Don't you look at my girlfriend
She's the only one I got
Not much of a girlfriend
Never seem to get a lot'

I also have to draw attention to our country's great national shame.

'A modern-day warrior
Mean mean stride,
Today’s tom sawyer
Mean mean pride.

Though his mind is not for rent,
Don’t put him down as arrogant.
His reserve, a quiet defense,
Riding out the day’s events.
The river

And what you say about his company
Is what you say about society.
Catch the mist, catch the myth
Catch the mystery, catch the drift.

The world is, the world is,
Love and life are deep,
Maybe as his eyes are wide.

Today’s tom sawyer,
He gets high on you,
And the space he invades
He gets by on you.

No, his mind is not for rent
To any God or government.
Always hopeful, yet discontent,
He knows changes aren’t permanent,
But change is.

And what you say about his company
Is what you say about society.
Catch the witness, catch the wit,
Catch the spirit, catch the spit.

The world is, the world is,
Love and life are deep,
Maybe as his skies are wide.

Exit the warrior,
Today’s tom sawyer,
He gets high on you,
And the energy you trade,
He gets right on to the friction of the day.'


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posted 09 June 2005 10:12 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's lots of places I'd like to insert Supertramp too, but none of them include the audio oriface.

I'm assaulted by other people's radio's at work on a constant basis. They are loud. One in fact has a speaker the size of a guitar amplifier. And it's usually set to "the Hawk". A "classic rock" station.

So I know bad lyrics.

High on the annoying list with me is almost anything by "Styx".

I think there's one song where there is litteral "Moon/June" rhyming. Although "Styx" has no monopoly on bad, insipid lyrics, what distinguishes them amoungst the worst is the fact that the lead singer had opera training, and each sacyrine word is enunciated with painfull clarity.

At least John Fogarty knew how to hide the clumsy bits with his drawl.


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posted 09 June 2005 11:40 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by pebbles:

Virtually every Bruce Cockburn lyric makes me cringe. Or giggle. Easily one of the worst lyricists of all time.


Oh yes. Oh God yes.


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Erstwhile
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posted 09 June 2005 11:55 PM      Profile for Erstwhile     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Boo-urns to the Bruce Cockburn hatahs.

I suspect you've heard If I had a Rocket Launcher or If a Tree Falls too many times. How many of his songs have you actually listened to?


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siren
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posted 10 June 2005 01:07 AM      Profile for siren     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by chimo:
Let the eagle soar,
Soar with freedom in her breast
So long as she's appropriately dressed
And not exposing her chest.
As the lands beneath her say
"Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away."
But we shall overcome.
We won't let the First Amendment
stand in our way.
O, let the eagle soar,
but the Bill of Rights ignore
'cause we're in a state of war
Yes, let the mighty eagle soar.

Hey hey now. That song is bad enough without creating an abysmal second verse. I like his singing style though, very William "don't think I can hit that note so now I'll simply start talking" Shatner.


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 10 June 2005 01:10 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
These lyrics are so problematic the transcribers are unable to write them all down:

quote:

When Der Fuehrer says, "We ist der master race"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuehrer's face
Not to love Der Fuehrer is a great disgrace
So we HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuehrer's face
When Herr Gobbels says, "We own der world und space"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Herr Goring's face
When Herr Goring says they'll never bomb this place
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Herr Goring's face

Are we not the supermen
Aryan pure supermen
Ja we ist der supermen
Super-duper supermen
Ist this Nutzi land not good?
Would you leave it if you could?
Ja this Nutzi land is good!
Vee would leave it if we could

We bring the world to order
Heil Hitler's world New Order
Everyone of foreign race will love Der Fuehrer's face
When we bring to der world disorder

When Der Fuehrer says, "We ist der master race"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuehrer's face
When Der Fuehrer says, "We ist der master race"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuhrer's face


The Bongettes love this one...because of the untranscribable bits.


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posted 10 June 2005 01:18 AM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I also have to draw attention to our country's great national shame.

I'd rather think of the band-that-will-not-be-named as Mississauga's great suburban shame, but your point is well taken as always.

But I don't think you've quoted their worst lyrics. In something called "Subdivisions," they decided to Expose The True Horror of their Former Environs by way of lyrics like "the suburbs have no charms to soothe/the restless dreams of youth."

I'm sure I speak for suburbanites everywhere when I say: yeeesh.


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posted 10 June 2005 01:19 AM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You need a symbol for the fart sounds.
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sub lite
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posted 10 June 2005 01:44 AM      Profile for sub lite   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
whee, thread revival. My $.02: Where the Wild Roses Grow - Nick Cave & Kylie Minogue

Last two verses:

quote:
On the third day he took me to the river
He showed me the roses and we kissed
And the last thing I heard was a muttered word
As he stood smiling above me with a rock in his fist

On the last day I took her where the wild roses grow
And she lay on the bank, the wind light as a thief
As I kissed her goodbye, I said, 'All beauty must die'
And lent down and planted a rose between her teeth


*shiver*

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Paul Gross
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posted 10 June 2005 01:49 AM      Profile for Paul Gross   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by al-Qa'bong:
These lyrics are so problematic the transcribers are unable to write them all down:

I'm sure you're being ironic but I will add some background for people who may not be familiar with WW2 satirical songs. Plus it gives an oppoturnity to listen to my "Best of Big Bands" CD.

"Der Fuehrer's face" was a hit for Spike Jones in 1942. It's not subtle, complete with mocking voices and raspberry/farting sounds after each "heil heil". Judging by the audience laffs, the band did funny visual things as well, maybe goosestepping around. It sounds like they sing "Nazi" on Jones' version The song was taken from an anti-Nazi Donald Duck propoganda cartoon where they refer to Nazis as "nutzis"

More: http://www.biography.ms/Der_Fuehrer's_Face.html


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Gir Draxon
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posted 10 June 2005 03:02 AM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Well it ain't no surprise
That you turn me on and leave
It ain't no surprise
That you turn it around on me
I don't know why
You won't give me what I need
It ain't no surprise
(Whoa) That that bitch is leaving me

Songs like this are the reason I oppose Canadian content quotas. It's because of those we have to listen to this horseshit three times every hour on most radio stations.


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nister
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posted 10 June 2005 08:54 AM      Profile for nister     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Chryssie Hynde, on Tattooed Love Boys:

..a good time was guaranteed to one and all, with tattoos..target practice in the halls, while waiting for their number to be called, while I showed 'em what it was about..I was a good time, yeah, I got pretty good. Changing tires? Upstairs, bro. I shot my mouth off, and he showed me what that hole was for, yeah....


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posted 10 June 2005 08:59 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why do you find that problematic, nister?
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posted 10 June 2005 02:47 PM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Early Simon and Garfunkel. Paul Simon is my favourite writer of rock / pop music lyrics, but he got off to a rough start with "I Am a Rock", with lyrics so adolescent that even a lonely bookish fourteen-year-old could see them for the puerile piffle that they are. "The Sound of Silence" is marginally better, but is saved by the phenomenal tune and vocal harmonies.

Actually, the tunes are what salvage the often appallingly sexist Rolling Stones for me. If not for the lyrics, I'd say their material from 1965 through the early 1970s qualifies them as the best rock band ever. But the lyrics bump them back to number two or three, behind the Beatles and the Who.

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RP.
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posted 10 June 2005 03:16 PM      Profile for RP.     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:

Immigrants and faggots make no sense to me
They come to our country, think they'll do what they please
Like start some mini-Iran, or spread some fucking disease
They talk so many goddam ways, it's all Greek to me

GNR, "One in a million"

I've debated with more than one person that these lyrics are meant ironically, especially since they're so OTT.

Many people don't believe that using offensive language ironically to criticize is legitimate, but I disagree.


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Mr. Magoo
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posted 10 June 2005 03:25 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
How many of his songs have you actually listened to?

Many. I like the guy, but if you want a surreal experience, listen to him (try to) sing in French.


From: ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_¸,ø¤°°¤ø,¸_¸,ø¤°°¤ø, | Registered: Dec 2002  |  IP: Logged
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posted 10 June 2005 04:10 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I don't think Bruce Cockburn is the worst lyricist in Canada.

Stompin' Tom is. But then, even though I think he's a bad lyricist, and I'm not a fan of his nasal twang, or his country style, I have a soft spot for Connors because he does what he does from the heart, and he chronicles the vignettes of ordinary working Canadians. So those heroes don't go unsung.

Similarly, I have no political beef with Cockburn. I agree with Cockburn.

But, the cultural and political opinions of the artist and myself have no impact on the quality of lyrics.

They are both not terribly musical lyricists.


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Contrarian
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posted 10 June 2005 04:57 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh come on! Stompin' Tom writes wonderful lyrics for his kind of music and voice.
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posted 10 June 2005 05:02 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree, they are wonderful in many ways. Ways that do not include musical, however.

It's okay. I can't write poetry either. It's freakin' hard.


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posted 10 June 2005 09:16 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by 'lance:


But I don't think you've quoted their worst lyrics. In something called "Subdivisions," they decided to Expose The True Horror of their Former Environs by way of lyrics like "the suburbs have no charms to soothe/the restless dreams of youth."

I'm sure I speak for suburbanites everywhere when I say: yeeesh.



OK - let's roll out the big guns.

Ahem.

A one, a two, a one-two-three-four

'The tobes of hades
Lit by flickering torchlight
The netherworld is gathered in the glare
Prince by-tor takes the cavern
To the north light
The sign of eth is rising in the air
By-tor, knight of darkness,
Centurion of evil
Devil’s prince

Across the river styx
Out of the lamplight
His nemesis is waiting at the gate
The snow dog, ermine glowing
In the damp night
Coal-black eyes shimmering with hate
By-tor and the snow dog
Square for battle
Let the fray begin

observe the dreaded words and cower helplessly
Instrumental

The battle’s over
And the dust is clearing
Disciples of the snow dog sound the knell
Rejoicing echoes
As the dawn is nearing
By-tor in defeat
Retreats to hell
Snow dog is victorious
The land of the overworld
Is saved again'


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posted 10 June 2005 09:25 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
OK - let's roll out the big guns.

Ahem.

A one, a two, a one-two-three-four...


Ha! I laugh at your "By-Tor and the Snow Dog"! Ha-ha, I say!

Dig this, smart gyu:

--
There are those who think that life has nothing left to chance,
A host of holy horrors to direct our aimless dance.

A planet of playthings,
We dance on the strings
Of powers we cannot perceive
"The stars aren't aligned,
Or the gods are malign..."
Blame is better to give than receive.

Chorus:
You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill;
I will choose a path that's clear
I will choose freewill.

There are those who think that they were dealt a losing hand,
The cards were stacked against them; they weren't born in Lotusland.

All preordained
A prisoner in chains
A victim of venomous fate.
Kicked in the face,
You can't pray for a place
In heaven's unearthly estate.

(Chorus)

Each of us
A cell of awareness
Imperfect and incomplete.
Genetic blends
With uncertain ends
On a fortune hunt that's far too fleet.

(Chorus)
--

I have to admit, R--- lyrics aren't altogether problematic (howbeit that the little ditty above was said to have been inspired by Ayn Rand). They're just rilly rilly rilly bad. Maybe we should just start a "Rilly Rilly Rilly Bad Lyrics" thread?


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posted 10 June 2005 09:48 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Problematic on artistic grounds, I would say.
The bad lyrics thread is needed - I shall dig up some offensive material.

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posted 11 June 2005 11:57 AM      Profile for nister     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anchoress, sorry I lost track of this thread. I love the Pretenders, and I especially love Tattooed Love Boys, with that time signature. I guess I threw it in this thread because lyrics about sex addiction, kinky sex with strangers, fellatio, et al extolled so completely by a woman was unusual for the time.

You have to listen to the song; Hynde knows dirty. I guess that's problematic for some.


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Stargazer
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posted 11 June 2005 02:24 PM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Goddo's Sweet Thing:

"Young girl sweet sixteen,
A perfect picture for a warm wet dream"

"You like the fact that I am in a band
you're aware I'm a one night stand.
But that doesn't bother a girl like you
You take your cake and you eat it to.
You're my sweet, sweet thing,
You never bite but you always sting.
You're my sweet, sweet child,
Come on over and drive me wild."

I love Elton Montello's Jet Boy, Jet Girl.

For some offensive but funny lyrics anything by he Electric Chairs (although I love this band)

"I love it when you smell my dirty jock"

Just an example.


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saskatchewan
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posted 17 June 2005 02:14 PM      Profile for saskatchewan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I didn’t really understand just how much I had to gloss lyrics in order to listen to music until my kids started to listen to music and sing it. Although kids singing Elvis is generally adorable, you don’t really want to hear your five-year old daughter singing “Baby, Let’s Play House” if she’s going to get all the way to the last verse:

Now listen to me, baby/Try to understand.
I'd rather see you dead, little girl,/Than to be with another man.

Fortunately, the five-year old in question mostly gets stuck on the “b-b-b-b-b-baby baby” part. (Not that the rest of the song isn’t problematic – “you may go to college, you may go to school, you may drive a pink Cadillac, but don’t you be nobody’s fool” – in other words, Baby, this education you’ve been getting yourself has perhaps given you some uppity ideas. Get back here and be my [infantilized] woman!)

But it turns out that we’re just big ole prudes too: I definitely overheard my boyfriend changing the Violent Femmes’ lyrics while playing the guitar for the kids. “Why can’t I get/ just one duck? Why can’t I get/ just one duck? Guess it’s got something to do with luck. . .”

Heh.


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posted 21 June 2005 11:26 PM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There was a song called "New Age Girl" which was my least favourite song from '94 or '95, I forget who by and don't really want to remember, with a chorus that went something like this (going from memory):

quote:
Mary Moon, Mary Moon
She's a vegetarian
She don't eat meat
But she like a little bone

Oooh, I GET it. Such sly wit.

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