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Snuckles
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posted 24 January 2005 11:14 PM      Profile for Snuckles   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Slogans labelled racist and sexist
Desire to be edgy, a cry for attention

TRISH CRAWFORD
LIFE WRITER

It's certainly not your grandfather's T-shirt.

Internet mail order houses, custom shops in malls and do-it-yourself kits have spawned an unprecedented deluge of shock shirts. They can be racist, sexist or profane, sporting bloody hammers, rude gestures and gory photos from the news pages.

They get our attention with message such as "Jesus is my homeboy," "Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them," or, teen singer Charlotte Church's contribution, "Barbie is my crack whore."

"It's getting very difficult to shock people now," says Alan Middleton, a marketing professor at York University's Schulich School of Business. "Part of what young people are doing is using the shirts to establish themselves as different from the majority. The role of fashion has always been to create points of difference."

Once the "in your face" ghetto/crime fashion started to fade, with all its jailhouse references to pimps, whores, gangstas and bling, young people looked for something else with which to upset the older generation, says Middleton.

"These shirts are aimed at those who want to cause a little bit of annoyance. These are not young people who would walk up to older people and yell at them. But they will put on these shirts among their friends, or at a rave, as a way to make a statement."


Read it here.

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posted 26 January 2005 03:14 AM      Profile for peppermint     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've noticed T-shirts that are pretty risque- though not racist, are pretty commonplace in Asia. I was floored to notice an 8 year old student of mine wearing a cute little pink t-shirt with this written on it:

quote:
'Choose life, choose a job, choose a career, choose a family, choose a fucking big television. Choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments, choose a starter home, choose your friends. Choose leisure-wear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite and higher purchase and a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you've spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future, choose life. But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life, I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons! Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?'


Obviously there wasn't room for the full thing, but who gets inspiration for children's clothing from a movie about drug abuse?


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posted 26 January 2005 07:17 AM      Profile for Walker     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My 48 year old brother has apparently been going around for years in absolute ignorance of the fact that his t shirt did not actually have the logo for Vegemite in it. It had the logo, but the word was changed to Vaginamite. He was finally told by his daughter when he was pointing at it and exhorting his 3 month old grandson to 'get this into him when you're older' or words to that effect.
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quote:
Originally posted by Walker:
My 48 year old brother has apparently been going around for years in absolute ignorance of the fact that his t shirt did not actually have the logo for Vegemite in it. It had the logo, but the word was changed to Vaginamite. He was finally told by his daughter when he was pointing at it and exhorting his 3 month old grandson to 'get this into him when you're older' or words to that effect.

That is classic!

My friend's dad had a similar thing. They are from the Ukraine and love flea markets. He bought a belt buckle he liked and wore it a lot. Finally someone at his work took him aside and said he probably shouldn't wear a marijuana belt buckle to work.


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posted 26 January 2005 10:55 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have a really offensive shirt. It just says "Smoke Crack and Worship Satan".
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quote:
Originally posted by Walker:
his t shirt did not actually have the logo for Vegemite in it. It had the logo, but the word was changed to Vaginamite.

Makes a nice snack any time of day. Just spread and have at it.

I once had a t-shirt parodying a long-forgotten Microsoft slogan. I bought it and wore it to work on a casual day without ever noticing that the enlarged "hand" mouse pointer on the shirt had been changed to the middle finger. I was highly embarassed.


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posted 26 January 2005 12:19 PM      Profile for johnpauljones     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I was in New York I went to a store called FCUK short for the store name of French Connection.

Anywho they sell a shirt that read I love FCUK.


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posted 26 January 2005 12:29 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They have stores right here in Toronto.

http://www.fradical.com/TTC_approves_fcuk_ads.htm

quote:
Dear Councillor Moscoe:

Re: Yorkdale's first fcuk

Yesterday, April 17, I went to Yorkdale shopping centre by TTC. I was surprised and disgusted to see large display advertisements on the subway station wall for the new "fcuk" store that will apparently be opening at Yorkdale. There were two advertisements with the following wording:

Yorkdale's first fcuk
Fcuk FM

In my personal life, Mr. Moscoe, I use profanity, but I consider it my social responsibility to refrain from swearing around children or adults who might find my language offensive. (I don't always succeed, but I do try.) If more adults did the same, perhaps it wouldn't be such a nightmare getting on the TTC when the schools are letting out. I personally try to avoid the TTC at that time of day because I find the profane language that kids use really disturbing -- it creates a hostile, unpleasant atmosphere -- so, imagine my displeasure to find the TTC actually contributing to that hostile, unpleasant situation by posting advertisements for the maturity-challenged fcuk chain of stores


What a fcukwit!


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posted 26 January 2005 12:32 PM      Profile for johnpauljones     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ok so I will admit I do not go to Yorkdale.

I will say this though from the "shock value" of the shirt it is a good advertising gimic since I remembered the name of the store etc.


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posted 26 January 2005 12:36 PM      Profile for Raos     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's a French Connection United Kingdom in Edmonton, too.
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posted 26 January 2005 12:45 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When my friends came back from Wales on a rugby trip 90% of them were sporting these new fangled FCUK shirts. At first I was like "WTF, THEY SAID THE F WORD ON THEIR SHIRT AND I'M NOT ALLOWED TO WEAR MY G7 WELCOMING COMMITEE SHIRT WTF". Then I sat, and look at my buddy Caroline's shirt for a moment. Laughed and said "OH! F...C...U...K". It was a grand moment of enlightenment. Luckily my principal recentely stopped trying to police what I wear. So, my G7 Welcoming Commitee shirt is being worn quite a lot.
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posted 26 January 2005 03:04 PM      Profile for swirrlygrrl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
On the article, my question is...people still go to raves???

On tshirts, a local Conservative party boy on campus has a lovely red t-shirt with Che Guevera on it...next to the line "Dead for a reason". Always gets a reaction.


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quote:
Originally posted by swirrlygrrl:
On tshirts, a local Conservative party boy on campus has a lovely red t-shirt with Che Guevera on it...next to the line "Dead for a reason". Always gets a reaction.

Ohhhh boy...I don't even know him, and I'm already a little agitated.

I've seen this Straight Edge shirt that says "I Need Drugs/Like I Need A Hole In The Head," underneath a picture of Kurt Cobain. Tasteless, truely tasteless.


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Judge tells man to fcuk off

Yeah, the story's two years old. Still good though.


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At school I saw a girl wearing a T-shirt saying "I'm not a gynecologist but I'll have a look". Kind of cool, but if I wore it I'd feel like a pig. Context is everything.
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posted 09 February 2005 07:11 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ha! I think that's pretty funny. In fact, I think that would be pretty funny if I saw a guy wearing it, too.
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I'm sure we've all seen the t-shirt, worn by men, with the words ORGAN DONOR above an arrow pointing down to the groin. Much of my optimism for the species is sapped when I see one of these specimens.
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I once saw a chesty young woman whose shirt read "I wish these were brains".
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Hailey
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posted 09 February 2005 11:38 AM      Profile for Hailey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Someone, jokingly, sent me this url to buy childen's clothing

http://tinyurl.com/3tjv7

It's offensive but it made me laugh or at least some of them did. Some of them I really didn't like!


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Oh my. (some of them are funny though)

"I tore mommy a new one"

"I enjoy a good spanking"

"Now that I'm safe, I'm pro-choice"

DO NOT click on the Radioactive button. That leads to considerably more, uh, questionable adult shirts (eg: "I swear, I didn't know she was 3")


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posted 09 February 2005 12:14 PM      Profile for shaolin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
On tshirts, a local Conservative party boy on campus has a lovely red t-shirt with Che Guevera on it...next to the line "Dead for a reason". Always gets a reaction.

Ah! I know exactly who you're talking about - he's such a charming character. He was manning the Young Conservative table one afternoon wearing it when a friend of mine went up and said "Yeah, American imperialism." He didn't have much of a response.


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A few months back I was out with my niece...and some woman was wearing a tshirt that said..."The only bush I trust is my own"....my niece just couldn't get it.
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How old is she?
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I've heard some pretty interesting things about what shirts that are meant to look "exotic" (ie: written in non-alphabetic-is that the term?-languages)actually say... I don't know how much to believe, but based on what I have seen written in English on shirts from Japanese and Korean boutiques, and in friends' travel pictures, it's at least partially true.

[ 09 February 2005: Message edited by: Amy ]


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genuine generalization
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quote:
Originally posted by Amy:
I've heard some pretty interesting things about what shirts that are meant to look "exotic" (ie: written in non-alphabetic-is that the term?-languages)actually say...

Sorta like this?

Edited to add:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(not being rude; it's just an example of what I *think* you're talking about...)

[ 10 February 2005: Message edited by: Hephaestion ]


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quote:
Originally posted by gopi:
I'm sure we've all seen the t-shirt, worn by men, with the words ORGAN DONOR above an arrow pointing down to the groin. Much of my optimism for the species is sapped when I see one of these specimens.

Oh, come on. That's funny!


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Michelle, I'm shocked and appalled.

Actually, this has given your faithful treasurer a fund-raising idea. Now taking suggested slogans for a BWAGA T-shirt.


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Long-time BWAGA Member: Beware, contents under pressure.

I'm not happy with this BWAGA T-shirt; Please help me beat the thirty day return deadline.


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I used to wear a T-shirt advertizing a Big Black album, Songs About Fucking, that used to attract the attention of local policemen from time to time. Often I'd end up having to wear it inside out to keep from getting ticketted in this little conservative town in which I live.

The shocking shirt phenom is, of course, an old and hoary one. We might recall that our forebearers, the Sex Pistols, used to wear T-shirts designed by Vivienne Westwood that featured explicit homosexual sex scenes as rendered by Tom of Finland. As seen here.


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I enjoy walking around downtown wearing my "Smoke Crack and Worship Satan" shirt. If that don't offend, nothing will.
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Try walking around like this.

Very funny short film - "A Heap of Trouble" shows the seismic effect on a leafy housing estate when nine naked men come marching through, recruiting other men to join up.


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I saw that back when Zed was new, I think. It's hilarious; they're all wearing nothing but socks and they are none of them shaped like Greek gods. I liked the poor guy who was devastated because when he started throwing off his clothes, his family grabbed him and wouldn't let him run off with the group.
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It's hilarious; they're all wearing nothing but socks and they are none of them shaped like Greek gods.

Well, a couple are -- Bacchus.

Edit:

I've just been corrected, here -- Dionysus was the Greek god, and he looked like, well, a Greek god. Bacchus was his Roman counterpart. Ah, well.

[ 13 February 2005: Message edited by: 'lance ]


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Maybe the blacksmith; Roman Vulcan = Greek Hephaestus I think?
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Hephaestus it was. But being a smith, he had powerful arms, shoulders, and chest. At the same time he had weak or poorly-functioning legs. He describes himself as -- and is called by the other gods -- a "cripple." (So it's usually translated, anyway).

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He was also deformed of face and genitals. One of the lesser loved Gods.

I wonder if any of them were like the offspring of Aphrodite and Hermes


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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Magoo:

DO NOT click on the Radioactive button.


Biohazard.


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quote:
Originally posted by 'lance:Hephaestus it was. But being a smith, he had powerful arms, shoulders, and chest. At the same time he had weak or poorly-functioning legs. He describes himself as -- and is called by the other gods -- a "cripple." (So it's usually translated, anyway).

Hephaestus in whose honour my namesake was supposedly named.

Oddly enough, while "Hephaestion" fits me, so too does 'lance's description of "Hephaestus" above. (I'm much more mild looking than this picture, though.)


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quote:
Originally posted by Amy:
I've heard some pretty interesting things about what shirts that are meant to look "exotic" (ie: written in non-alphabetic-is that the term?-languages)actually say... I don't know how much to believe, but based on what I have seen written in English on shirts from Japanese and Korean boutiques, and in friends' travel pictures, it's at least partially true.

That's nothing new. During the Renaissance, the best fabric available in the west was mostly silk made in the Islamic lands. The Islamic people did very elaborate calligraphy that got so spiky it didn't really look like lettering, and they tended to weave messages into their fabric. Or maybe embroider them on, that's more likely.
Anyhow, so of course the pope would wear only the very best, right? Best fabric, elaborately embroidered in gold. Some of those popes would probably have been somewhat shocked to realize that all over their vestments were beautiful representations of the phrase "There is no god but God, and Mohammed is his prophet"!


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Some of those popes would probably have been somewhat shocked to realize that all over their vestments were beautiful representations of the phrase "There is no god but God, and Mohammed is his prophet"!

You mustn't joke about such things, Rufus. It was this kind of subversion -- this kind of deliberate, Islamist undermining of the very fabric of Western society -- that made the Crusades necessary.

quote:
Oddly enough, while "Hephaestion" fits me, so too does 'lance's description of "Hephaestus" above. (I'm much more mild looking than this picture, though.)

As babblers who have met me will know, I too have the body of a Greek god.

Unfortunately, he's the little-known Nerdius -- thin, pale god of readers and science geeks.


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quote:
Originally posted by 'lance:

As babblers who have met me will know, I too have the body of a Greek god.

Unfortunately, he's the little-known Nerdius -- thin, pale god of readers and science geeks.


You slay me, 'lance!


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Believe me, Heph: by no manner of means am I tough enough for that. (But thanks!)

Please to note: Nerdius is not, not, NOT to be confused with Deandeus (pron.: Dee-AN-dee-us), god of role-playing gamers and science fiction/fantasy geeks.

We acolytes of Nerdius are always having to correct people on that point. I can't think why.


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quote:
Originally posted by peppermint:
Obviously there wasn't room for the full thing, but who gets inspiration for children's clothing from a movie about drug abuse?

'Choose life, choose a job, choose a career, choose a family, choose a fucking big television. Choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments, choose a starter home, choose your friends. Choose leisure-wear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite and higher purchase and a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you've spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future, choose life. But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life, I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons! Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?'



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