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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 28 August 2001 05:43 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2001/09/hamilton.htm
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'lance
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posted 28 August 2001 06:27 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pish-tosh. Stuff and nonsense. Never happen, no Sir!
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posted 28 August 2001 09:26 PM      Profile for verbatim   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The suit, once a sufficient time has lapsed from it falling out of favour as the uniform of the conservative, will become the dress of the rebel.

This is my prediction.


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'lance
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posted 28 August 2001 09:36 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
... whence it will once again find its way into the boardroom, as the grown-up rebels try to recapture the insouciance of their lost youth.

Okay, maybe not. But men (in England, anyway) ended up wearing trousers because young rakes, trying to create scandal, started wearing their riding gear to afternoon drinks and dinners at country houses. Or started imitating navvies and sailors -- reverse snobbery, 1820s style.


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andrean
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posted 29 August 2001 12:02 AM      Profile for andrean     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Suits are sexy on the fellas so I rather hope that they aren't dead. Unless they're to be replaced with floor-length skirts...those are sexy on the fellas, too.

Even if they do fall into disfavour among men, I expect there will remain enough eccentricity value for me to get away with wearing one still (you see, they're sexy on the chicks, too )

In other words, long live the suit!


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'lance
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posted 29 August 2001 12:30 AM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hear, hear.

In fact someone -- a woman I think -- published a book a couple of years ago on the history of the suit, "Sex and Suits" or something like that.

As for long skirts on men, I'm planning on going in serious drag on Halloween. Maybe not a floor-length skirt, but definitely below the knee, my knees being what they are.

I just might post a photo on the family album, for laughs.


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Dawna Matrix
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posted 29 August 2001 03:37 PM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like my new suit. It's a fabulous ice-cream suit.
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skdadl
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posted 29 August 2001 03:40 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey, Dawna, I haven't heard that expression since I last talked to my mum! An ice-cream suit! Which flavour? Mum's favourite was always Neapolitan (stripes), but I can go for any of the pale fruits ... ?
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'lance
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posted 29 August 2001 04:56 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sounds cool (heh, heh), but ... what's a ice-cream suit?
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Dawna Matrix
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posted 29 August 2001 06:24 PM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
vanilla, baby. Just like me. Actually, the expression and I have never met - I was referring to the movie "The Fabulous Ice-Cream Suit", about five Mexican guys whose dreams are realized when they buy a pure white, shining suit. One becomes a revolutionary leader without even opening his mouth, one gets the girl, another...I won't give it away - it's a great flick.
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'lance
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Kewl. I should check it out.

Together with the movie version of "Myra Breckenridge." (How's that for thread tie-in?) There was a story on it in a recent Vanity Fair. Sounded a camp classic, though funny in a way which probably drove Gore Vidal nuts.

There's also an Italian movie called "Borsalino," after the fedora. I've not seen it, but apparently it's a heist flick featuring a bunch of guys who... really just want enough money to afford Borsalinos. Not a bad motivation, I'd say.


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Trisha
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posted 29 August 2001 06:47 PM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Suits for men and women have been on quite a few of the runways for fall. I think the look is classy and elegant. I'd hate to see it go. I'm intending to make myself a red satin tuxedo as soon as I have time. I was hoping to do it in time for Christmas but It'll have to wait until next year.
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posted 30 August 2001 09:17 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Whoo! A red satin tuxedo! But that kind of dash, and ice-cream suits -- those are just the opposite of that strange uniform wage-slaves still feel they have to wear. Just yesterday morning, for instance, I was looking at the photo in the papers of the new, bigger statue of Rene Levesque that's gone up in Quebec City. I think it looks awful, and mostly because, if you blow up the dimensions of a figure in the average straight, unstyled business suit, what do you mainly get in your massive statue? Yards and yards of nothing but overwhelming flat suit -- no person, no character or interest, just yards of flat surface, with a tiny wee head perched waaay up there ... I would have sat him down, to start with, and given him a cigarette ... anything to break up that suit!

By the way, Dawna, mum called any chalky-pastel suit an ice-cream suit -- I think it's a kind of 30s-40s thing, very summery, very smart.


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Dawna Matrix
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posted 30 August 2001 11:46 AM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Believe it or not, I look like someone who belongs in the 40's, not the 00's. It's the new hair (ignore my robot pigtails - things have changed since then).
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Trisha
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posted 30 August 2001 05:15 PM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The new cuts for men I saw on the runway shows have some real style to them, more romantic than severe, but still serious enough to convey success. I especially liked the longer, swingier jackets and crispness without the heavy tailoring. They looked quite comfortable. It's about time they had some variety. BTW, anyone remember the leisure suit? It ended up being pretty awful but the first ones weren't bad. Nehru suits had their time too.
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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 30 August 2001 05:22 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Suits always look way better on runway models than they do on me.

Of course, runway models have the luxury of tailored-to-measure suits. I have to buy them off the rack.

[ August 30, 2001: Message edited by: Kneel before MediaBoy ]


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'lance
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posted 30 August 2001 05:23 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lord, I had a leisure suit, aged 14 or so. Formal occasions were generally awkward/embarrassing enough without that.

As for Nehru jackets, Sonny Mehta can reportedly carry one off. Sadly (from several points of view!), I'm not him.


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posted 30 August 2001 08:43 PM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Mediaboy, I can see you in one of the longer jacket suits (unless you're real short, which I don't think you are). There's such a variety, and the fit is more forgiving, I think each of you men would find one.

For women, thankfully theres a lot of variety there too. I'm a little on the dramatic side, though 5'4" and overweight, and saw quite a few that would suit me just fine if they came in my size. Tall women, as usual, have the advantage. I guess I do okay, though, I get a lot of complements from both men and women.


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posted 30 August 2001 08:59 PM      Profile for Ven. Jason W. Smith     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like suits. I used to think that jackets and trousers were a better choice because mixing and matching is easier. However, I really like suits.

My sticking point is the cravat. So, I often wear a suit with an open shirt, a sport shirt, or a banded collar shirt. I can tie a bow tie without even looking in a mirror, so if a tie is a must, I usually wear one of those.

Rather than floor-length skirts, I prefer the kilt. My clan is MacPherson and my family name is Smith, so I have three very nice tartans.


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