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beluga2
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posted 31 August 2003 05:28 AM      Profile for beluga2     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fodder for more impassioned musical argument: Rolling Stone picks the 100 best guitarists of all time.

#1 is a given (hint: "scuse me while I kiss this guy" ).

The rest of the top 20:

quote:
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11 Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton

The full 100


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hello? joe strummer? peter buck?

and some people who should have been higher:

quote:
50 Pete Townshend
52 Lou Reed
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
76 Ali Farka Toure
83 Neil Young

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Missing: Anne Wilson/Heart, Peter Frampton. Was the guitar player for Fleetwood Mac any good? I never remember any of my guitar playing friends practicing his stuff.

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The list seems a bit thin in parts. Of course it completely ignores classical, but I've learned to live with that injustice. Might have included Mason Williams and Alvin Lee though. Was Stevie Ray Vaughan on that or did I just miss him?
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posted 01 September 2003 12:08 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Django?

Charlie Christian?


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pretty light from the blues end too.
http://www.howlinwolf.com/

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A little light on the XX chromosomes too. 98 out of 100 are male (only exceptions: Joni Mitchell & Joan Jett). Not too surprising, I guess. Y'know what they say: extension of phallus, masturbatory, etc.
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This list is silly. Even Kurt Cobain - where he alive - would have placed Thurston Moore's guitair skills well above his own.

These "definitive lists" are inevitably more about selling magazines then anything else. I think another reason for the lack of women is the fact that "ranking" something as subjective as guitar-playing is such a boy thing to do. How do you "prove" that Jimi Hendrix was better than Kurt Cobain or Django Reinhart? Have a "guitar off"?

Fun but dumb. That being said: Joe Strummer hardly ever played guitar. The exclusion of Mick Jones of the Clash is fucking obscene.

Nice to see D. Boon up there though.


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they overlooked Marc Ribot, Reverend Horton Heat, and my favorite, Ernest Ranglin.
Django should have been number 1.

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Uh...Joe Pass? Wes Montgomery? George Benson? John Scofield? Jim Hall? Bill Frisel? Kenny Burrel? Pat Metheny? Howz about Freddy Green - the heart and soul (though you could barely hear him) of the Count Basie rhythm section?

This list is light on the jazz guys.


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In fairness, Rolling Stone has to address a certain audience - one which probably isn't familiar with the likes of Joe Pass. Was Andres Segovia mentioned?

How about banjo pickers? Harry Reser? Dock Boggs?


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quote:
Originally posted by al-Qa'bong:
In fairness, Rolling Stone has to address a certain audience - one which probably isn't familiar with the likes of Joe Pass. Was Andres Segovia mentioned?

How about banjo pickers? Harry Reser? Dock Boggs?


Of course, of course - I wasn't suggesting otherwise. I think we can all see that the list is limited for just these reasons.


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Bonnie Raitt?
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Yes, yes, yes to Anne Wilson of Heart.

As for the guitarist from Fleetwood Mac, one of the songs by them that I like best has some amazing guitar happening in it. "Never Going Back Again". Don't know who the guitarist is though.

I think Bonnie Raitt is pretty awesome too.

I was just looking at the list to see if George Benson is on it - he's pretty amazing. Then I noticed that Courage already mentioned him.

Nice to see that Les Paul made the list, anyhow.


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al-Qa'bong
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I just realized that I stopped reading Rolling Stone at about the same time I started listening to pickers like Django and Joe Pass.

Coincidence?


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I like the guitars on Sleater Kinney records - but I don't know if they are "the greatest" Could Carrie Brownstein do the guitar solo from "Purple Haze"? Then we could judge.

Also, who the heck is "Bod Didley"? Number 37.


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It all depends on how you want to frame it.


From a fan perspective, I think Pete Townsend plays guitar and manages his stage presence as if he was a fan.

By way of contrast, Jimmy Page lays out some increadible power cords with just a sublime smile and little body movement. Rather dissapointing.

I've heard rock guitarists refer to Eric Clapton as rock's greatest guitarist. I wonder what they hear that I don't.


Jack White is an interesting inclusion. Listening to "Elephant", I hear a lot of echos of other guitarists, other styles. White doesn't rip off and riffs (that I can tell), but damn, it seems to this ear that he rips of a lot of styles. A sterling cut above most modern guitarists who are content to rip off riffs and then whine about "Napster".......

Myself, I would have put B.B. King on top; followed by Carlos Santana or Hendrix.

As for the rest, B.B. King was pretty much right:

"Those white boys want to play the blues so bad, and most of 'em do."

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quote:
I've heard rock guitarists refer to Eric Clapton as rock's greatest guitarist. I wonder what they hear that I don't.

I hear ya. The man is definitely a fine technician,..one of the best. But if ya wanna play the blues, ya gotta sound like you've spent a few nights in St James Infirmary, not like your daddy owned the mortgage on the place.


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I've always refered to Eric Clapton as an 'aquired distaste'.
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Hmm. I like Eric Clapton. I used to listen to that unplugged album all the time.
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unplugged.

(((((((shudders)))))))


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Oh shut up. I know it's cool to hate Eric Clapton. I know he's commercial. I don't care. I like him. I'm not an expert on him or have all his albums or anything. I just liked what I heard on the unplugged album. Strangely enough, it wasn't the songs from that album that got a ton of airplay that I liked so much - it was a few of the others.
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I don't have much use for most of Eric Clapp's later stuff, but he did have great taste in groups back in the day (Yardbirds, John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, Cream, Derek & the Dominos... hell, even Blind Faith had their moments). Not to mention his solo on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps". (And "Tears in Heaven" always makes me cry, 'cause it's a true story. )

All my favourite MIA's have already been mentioned:

Charlie Christian (Hel-LO? The guy who first popularized the electric guitar? WTF?)
Django (obviously)
Mick "you're my gee-tar hero!" Jones

I also woulda bumped Richard Thompson into the Top 10. (Best guitar playing I've ever personally witnessed.)


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I'm not sure not liking Eric Clapton is cool.

It's just the whole concept-- and Clapton isn't alone in this-- of rock'n'roll being "unplugged" is shudderable. That's what makes it rock-- the whole being plugged in part.


Rock and Roll "unplugged" is about as much fun as air, "unoxygenated".

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You know what I got a real kick out of? KISS unplugged.
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My personal top 10 has 12 players:

1. Santana

2. Al Dimeola

3. Roy Buchanan

4. Jeff Beck

5. Jimi Hendrix

6. Robert Fripp

7. Jimmy Page

8. Frank Zappa

9. Mark Knopfler

10.John McLaughlin

11.Ritchie Blackmore

12.David Gilmour

PS I quickly aquired a distaste for Clapton myself.


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What about Robbie Robertson and Colin Linden?
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Here's my list

1. Jimmy Hendrix
2. Ben Monder
3. Eddie Van Halen
4. Alex Lifeson
5. Bill Frisell
6. Marty Friedman
7. Stevie Ray
8. Randy Rhoades
9. Eric Clapton
10. Robert Johnson


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this list is a joke, to say the least. This is the list of the most popular and perhaps skilled rock and roll guitarist who are mostly from the US or have been popular in the US and born post-1930.

I'm sure the rest of the world would make some recomendations:
Paco De Lucía
Silvio Rodruique

and how about Sor, Tarrega, et al?

Was Peter Tosh on the list?


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What? Robbie Robertson's not on the Top 100? That's ludicrous.

And to detractors of Clapton I have one word: Beano.

Peter Green is the Fleetwood Mac guitarist most likely to be worshipped, and rightly so. Lindsey Buckingham is no slouch though - weird guitar, weird technique.

Whenever these lists come up, I apply the "how many notes does it take to recognise the player" test. BB King usually wins hands down. One note and you know it's him. Of course he rarely plays more than the one note, but so what?

At this point in the discussion, I always insert Mark Knopfler, so... Mark Knopfler.


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quote:
Originally posted by Holy Holy Holy:

Also, who the heck is "Bod Didley"? Number 37.

You don't know Bo? "Lust for Life", ring a bell?


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quote:
Was Peter Tosh on the list?

Or Wayne Perkins?

I can't believe someone doesn't know Bo Diddley.

Quick, let's put together a list of tunes that use the "Bo Diddley Beat"..

I'll start.

The Magic Bus
Not Fade Away

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Where are the jazz guitarists?
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Be warned, a rant:

Everytime I come home and turn on the radio and flip around the chanels, I am always amazed that on "classic rock" stations they are playing the same songs. THE SAME SONGS that they played 15 or 20 years ago!!

"And now the same ol' from Floyd, the Stones, the Doors, and an occasional Van Halen and Dire Straits for all you who who have listened to the same music for over 30 years to maintain the illusion that time has not passed and you are still young and handstom and cool, and not the lame fat 40 year old that you are."

How pathetic. I blame the rock and roll "cannon" that this list reinforces. There's a belief that certain bands are the be all and end all of music and few people explore beyond this boring repition. I mean, not only do they keep playing the 'Stones, the play the SAME DAMN STONES songs.

I remembe first discoving AC/DC and Zep and the like years ago (about 15-17 years ago, chirst) and I was amazed. This was good music. But, man, it's not all. In fact, I'd say there's far more interesting stuff out there.

I also hate top songs of the millenium lists. They're just an excuse to play the same ol'

There's no such thing as the "greatest song ever"

"Stairway to Heaven" is good, but it's nostalgia that makes it seem "great".

Really, aside from the UofT station, and occasional shows on the CBC, there are few places you can hear good new and/or different music featuring guitars in the Toronto area. Thank god for the internet.

And then there's "The Edge" or there WAS "the Edge" (an "alternative" radio station from Toronto)

Blink-182, is pedestrian, suburban crap. And thank god Nu-metal is dead.

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Richard Thompson really ought to be up at #1 or 2 on that list.
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The best guitar player in the world is David MacIsaac (Canadian from Nova Scotia.)

He is better known as a fiddler, but plays guitar probably even better than he plays fiddle.

He plays all styles . . . anyone that lives in Halifax should look him up.


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1)Steve Vai
2)Frank Zappa
3)Joe Satriani
4)Django Reinhardt (sp?)
5)Chet Atkins

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OK, here's another couple:

Who Do You Love?
"I walked 47 miles of barbed wire,
Used a cobra snake for a neck tie." Yeah, it's a Bo Diddley tune, but George Thorogood, among others, did it.

The weirdest Bo Diddley Beat tune I know of was made by 80s corporate cheese-meisters, Wham!. I think the song was called Sex, but I'm not sure about the title.


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Any busker
on any street corner
anywhere
anytime

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Don Ross

Ellen MacIllwaine (sp?)
Gamble Rogers (even if his stories are even better)
Martin Carthy (even if people said played electric guitar too loud for Steeleye Span)

I am a little surprised at Joni Mitchell, her songwriting and singing are outstanding but I don't see her as a great guitarist.

The best guitar gig I ever saw was when Colin Linden was leaving for the States (one of the times). There was a farewell concert at the Horseshoe. Colin, Mendelson Joe, David Wilcox, and Ken Whitely. They spent the whole night trying to blow each other off the stage. Amazing.


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Ben Harper is an interesting exclusion. You can't blame them for never having heard of him (of course, anyone who has the gall to make such a list in such a major music mag can't be excused of not knowing anyone really, really good).

How 'bout the guy from Big Sugar. He's good.


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I wouldn't worry too much this is Rolling Stone after all the people who put M.O.R. in the middle of...well..the road.

quote:
Joe Strummer hardly ever played guitar

That would fit my definition of a great guitarist.

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Hmm I don't really think much of this list either. Although I'm a big Nirvana fan..Kurt Cobain at #12?? He was a good guitar player, but nothing too special. Jack White is good, but he's too high IMO, as is Johnny Rammone! I like a few Ramones songs, but they really weren't that talented. I mean #16?!

quote:
Don Ross

Heh, Don Ross is awesome! I actually saw him perform in Peterborough a few weeks ago with 3 other excellent guitarists...


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The initial list is a joke in the first post. ANy list that does include Edward Van Halen in the top 3, is no list to reckon with. Here's my top 5. Drum roll please...

#1 Jimmy Hendrix
#2 Edward Van Halen
#3 Jimmy Page
#4 Eric Clapton
#5 Mark Knofler


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quote:
Edward Van Halen
#3 Jimmy Page
#4 Eric Clapton
#5 Mark Knofler


Maybe if you by "great" you mean Tedious naricistic self-indulgent, noodling guitar wank, then i guess you have a point.

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I didn't see Allan Holdsworth anywhere.

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It should read "Top 100 Anglo-American Pop/Rock Guitarists".

Anyway, I think Bruce Cockburn is an absolutely amazing guitarist.

If I had a rocket launcher, I'd launch it at that list


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Re: Kurt Cobain. Chuck Berry once said of him "He had a touch most guitar players would kill for"

Re: Johnny Ramone - he certainly isn't a shredder but I love the way he sounds - there certainly isn't anyone else around like him - the guitar sound seems inverted. Of course, he had a lot of help from the way Dee Dee played bass. Much in the same way Ian & Guy in Fugazi can go off with Joe Lally on bass.

B.B. King was quite humble about being included in the top 10 in an interview with the Globe recently.

There are some pretty cool choices in there: #31 Dick Dale, #33 & #34 Lee Ranaldo and Thurston Moore of SY (interestingly enough in other famous guitar pairings only one is included - Lou Reed is #52 w/o Sterling Morrison and Tom Verlaine is #56 w/o Richard Lloyd), #35 John Fahey, #89 D. Boon of the Minutemen (woohoo - and where is the bass player's list that has Mike Watt in the top ten), #92 & #93 -Fred "Sonic" Smith and Brother Wayne Kramer of the MC5, #95 - Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine (still waiting for that followup to Loveless - I need to get the Lost in Translation soundtrack though), and #99 - Greg Ginn of Black Flag.

Robert Fripp at #42 was a bit of a surprise - I figured he would be placed higher.

The absence of Prince too surprised me.

There could be many more women on the list - Poison Ivy Rorsasch of the Cramps comes to mind immediately as does Brix Smith of the Fall. For an acoustic player there is Tracy Chapman who is absolutely brilliant live.

Some other players that could be in the top 100 - J. Mascis, Omar Rodriguez of At the Drive-In/Mars Volta and Jim Ward of At the Drive-In/Sparta, Johnny Marr of the Smiths, Peter Buck of R.E.M., Nels Cline of the Geraldine Fibbers, Quartet Music, Nels Cline Trio and now of Wilco


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quote:
Originally posted by JimmyBrogan:
My personal top 10 has 12 players:

12.David Gilmour

PS I quickly aquired a distaste for Clapton myself.


David Gilmour is highly under rated and Clapton is Highly over rated. has anyone seen the cover band "Comfortably Numb"? They are in Ottawa tonight March 12th at Capital City Music Hall. Amazing.

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Just a few of the major omissions from the "top 100" guitarists;

- Joe Walsh (Eagles, James Gang) - absolutely unforgivable! he should be up there for Hotel California alone, along with Don Felder, but ther are so many other great Joe guitar tracks and he pioneered the talk box with "Rocky Mountain Way".

- Elliot Easton (The Cars) - "Just What I Needed" still rocks after all these years.

- Rick Neilsen (Cheap Trick) - incredible licks on the live "I Want You to Want Me"

- Andy Taylor (Duran Duran, Power Station) - very underrated, the main riff in "Hungry Like the Wolf" is still incredible. Not in the top 50 of course, but should be in the list given some of the other nominees that are there.


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Oh, and if Andy Summers (The Police) and Mick Taylor (from mid-70s Rolling Stones) aren't in the top 100...it's a joke!
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What about Colin James??
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Yes, David Gilmour is amazing, he should be far far higher than 82...
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when it comes down to it, the only guitarist that allows me to truly escape is David Gilmour.
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Well it's Rolling Stone, so you wouldn't expect to find too many classical, jazz or Latin guitarists. But surely they could have found room for some of these guys. Check out the winning performance (mpg format) from the last World Air Guitar Championships.

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quote:
Originally posted by radiorahim:
Anyway, I think Bruce Cockburn is an absolutely amazing guitarist.

I'll second that nomination... and also add Stephen Fearing to the list. The guy is incredible.


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Where is Rick Emmett? Where is Chet Atkins? Well maybe Rick shouldn't be in the top 20 but sheesh, Chet Atkins should be - Mark Knopfler too.

Damned Rolling Stone.


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quote:
World Air Guitar Championships.

Damn, I should fly to Finland & enter that contest next year. I've been practicing for 25 years!!


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The highlight, I am sure, is when you smash your air-guitar.
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I wonder if the alligators in the Swing era played air saxophone or air trombone.
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Air trombone is fun. Great exercise - well, for one arm, at least.
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There is actually a Canadian documentary film called AIR GUITAR IN OULU, about a young Haligonian who dreams of Air Guitar stardom. It sounds too good to miss...
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...Halifax native Andrew Buckles’ only instrument is his hands and he performs with them every day. He is an air guitar virtuoso and he will settle for nothing less than becoming the champion of the world. Air Guitar in Oulu, airing on Bravo! December 6th at 7pm ET, documents Buckles’ pursuit of his dream – to compete at the International Air Guitar Championship in Oulu, Finland.

Profiling the hapless but inspired Buckles, director Kent Sobey offers an endearing look at the legend-in-the-making in his dogged quest to fund his journey to Finland and his endeavour to ascend to the pinnacle of the air guitar world. From Vancouver, Buckles returns home to Halifax to live with his less-than-supportive brother, and busks, organizes bake sales and plays open-mic nights in an attempt to generate the necessary capital for his mission. However, faced with a public unable to understand – or reward – a busker without an instrument, Buckles is forced to cash in his dead uncle’s record collection to buy his ticket, saying, “He was a music lover. He would have wanted this for me.”

Once in Oulu, it is a whole new world for the young Canadian. Likeminded people from as far away as England and Australia arrive in the near-Arctic town in droves to compete and share their love for the art of strumming air. Buoyed by the international competition, our hero redoubles his efforts and prepares for what will be the performance of his life in front of a crowd of more than 3000 spectators.


Um, this picture of Andrew Buckles' big moment is rather too big to post here, but click if you will.

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Where the Jesus is Peter Buck? Not only has he propelled REM - and make no mistake, he's the driving force for all the press that Stipe gets - for over 20 years, but has guested on an eclectic range of other albums as well. Unbelivable, especially since Rolling Stone was REM lickspittle #1 during the halycon 'Automatic For The People' days. Well, I suppose Jann Wenner can content himself with issuing Justin Timberlake 'foto glossies' (true, sadly) nowadays.

The D.Boon and Thurston/Lee inclusions seem like mere tokenism so this deplorable starfucker rag can attempt to maintain some semblance of cred.

And Eric Clapton is a wizened anachronism who never truly created anything great in the first place. Virtuouso skills does not necessarily equal listenable music. By that logic, Joe Satriani and Yngwie Malmsteen should both have their own wings at the R'n'R Hall Of Fame.

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I dont know what u people are all talking about jimi hendrix sucks thats a fact whoopie he's left handed.

1.Michael Angelo ( he is the BEST)
2.Joe Satriani
3.Yngwie Malmsteen


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quote:
I dont know what u people are all talking about jimi hendrix sucks thats a fact whoopie he's left handed.

I refuse to respond to that statement!!

I like Michael Angelo, but the best? I think not...


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Yes to Steve Vai...and how about Lenny Breau? He was a genius.
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Randy Bachman is also horribly underrated - his solos are so melodic ("American Woman") and his jazzy songs like "Undun" and "Looking out for #1" are quite complex, considering they were massive radio hits. And, like any self-respecting Canuck garage band, my teenage rock group jammed on "Taking Care of Business" over and over and over and over and over again...
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Randy learned a lot of chops from Lenny Breau.Prince also wields a wicked Strat.
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quote:
Randy learned a lot of chops from Lenny Breau.

I heard Bachman say that Blue Collar's jazzy bits were taken from some licks that Lenny Breau taught him.


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That is why I don't read Rolling Stone anymore. Kurt Cobain was a horrible guitarist who could write decent songs. I am 10 times the guitarist Cobain was. I have been turned of Rolling Stone even since they compared N'Stink to the Beatles. I mean come on, how can you compare one of the crapiest boy groups of all time to the greatest band of all time. Its terrible. Lenny Breau should have definitely been #1, that guy can shred and John Frusciante should have been way higher, he is a God.

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Alright. For one thing, Rolling Stone magazine is a people pleaser. It falls for a lot of the pop stuff and doesn't really look at skill. So they can't really be trusted as a reliable source for guitarist ratings.
Also, if Kurt Cobain was a horrible guitarist, how can he write good songs? I agree, though. He was alright, but not the 12th greatest guitarist of all time. Also, I skimmed the entirety of this list just before coming to this discussion. They left out Trey Anastasio and Warren Hayes. Trey Anastasio is from Phish. He's honestly one the world's current greatest guitarists and can play literaly anything within the realm of possibility. Classical to rock, but mostly centered around a style of music reminiscent of the Grateful Dead. He's amazing.
Warren Hayes is probably one the world's best blues guitarists. He was in the Allman Brothers for a while and is now playing in Gov't Mule. He's phenomenal.
In short...yea, the list is a little whacked.

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At least Cobain rawked!! Wanky guitar is overdone

I might have missed it but I bet Dr. Know from Bad Brains and Blixa Bargeld from Einsterzende Neubauten and the Bad Seeds were missed.

He's mentioned above but John McLaughlin who played guitar on Miles Davis' On The Corner deserves a mention for that fine album.


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I must disagree with another post. Jimi Hendrix did not suck. His riffs were amazing. Plus, think of playing an up-side-down guitar. All musical scales, tabs, anything would have to be reversed in your mind. Simple riffs would become difficult. He was amazing.
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Well, I just finished listening to Jimi's Axis: Bold as Love for the first time in ages, and I gotta concur. I doubt anyone has ever been in such complete and total control of every aspect of their instrument. Wow.
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Michelle wrote:
quote:
As for the guitarist from Fleetwood Mac, one of the songs by them that I like best has some amazing guitar happening in it. "Never Going Back Again". Don't know who the guitarist is though.

Lindsay Buckingham. One of my five favorite guitarists. I can't believe they left him off the list. Wonderful, clear sound. "Countdown" "Landslide"

My generation (33) doesn't seem to be well represented here I guess, nobody has even brought up the wonderful guitarist of The Smiths: Johnny Marr.

In a similar vein to The Smiths would also be the guitarist of The Trash Can Sinatras, great little known Scottish band.


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Ahem

quote:
Originally posted by candle:

Some other players that could be in the top 100 - J. Mascis, Omar Rodriguez of At the Drive-In/Mars Volta and Jim Ward of At the Drive-In/Sparta, Johnny Marr of the Smiths, Peter Buck of R.E.M., Nels Cline of the Geraldine Fibbers, Quartet Music, Nels Cline Trio and now of Wilco


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Yes, I noticed that after, sorry. Somebody also mentioned Lindsay Buckingham above.

I like Wilco. The Trash Can Sinatras are great if you like depressing/happy pop music.

Typical British dark humorous lyrics
"the hands of the clock give me a round of applause for getting out of bed"

"looking at my watch, I'm half passed caring"

"stories of rags to riches/leave me in stitches"


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Yes, David Gilmour is amazing, he should be far far higher than 82...

I agree too. But while Pink Floyd was a guitar band, the guitar was one part of the whole. They seemed to understand that. It is why few people think of Pink Floyd when they think of great guitar rock. But anyone who has slipped away while listening to Comfortably Numb or Shine On You Crazy Diamond knows just how good the Gilmour's guitar playing is.

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I didn't see Alvin Lee on the list. (Or Canadians Gaye Delorme or Ellen McIlwaine or Big Dave McLean. McIlwaine's mentor, for example, was none other than Jimi Hendrix. )

P.S. ...from Lee's website:

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Alvin Lee is NOT playing with the band currently touring under the name "Ten Years After" and is NOT playing on the album "One Night Jammed" which is being sold as "Ten Years After - Original Members".

Alvin Lee

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And where is Tony Iommi? And Randy Rhoads?

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Where the Sweet texas toast is Dave Matthews and Tom Morello!!??? these two rule
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