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fern hill
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posted 20 December 2004 09:05 PM      Profile for fern hill        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The only xmas movie I like is "A Christmas Story" (I'm pretty sure that's the title) in which little Ralphie lobbies for a BB gun. There's actually very little about xmas in it and while it depicts a time somewhat before my own childhood, there are some lovely reminders of how children back then lived in a quite separate world from adults -- and not because of technology. Also, it was partly shot in Toronto, and it's nice to see the old streetcars in the background.
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posted 20 December 2004 09:23 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, it's hard to beat the classics: It's A Wonderful Life and A Christmas Carol, the one with Alister Sim. I also have a soft spot for the Home Alone movies.

[ 20 December 2004: Message edited by: josh ]


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posted 20 December 2004 09:24 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The original cartoon version of The Grinch Who Stole Christmas.

(You find it hard to be a classic, josh? )


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posted 20 December 2004 09:27 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Now, how could I have confused "be" with "beat."
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posted 20 December 2004 09:34 PM      Profile for steffie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I recall as a child watching an old version of "A Christmas Carol", a black-and-white creepy film noire type flick which had weird (old fashioned) effects, ghostly images, one in particular was children being washed down the bathtub drain? (I could be referring to a dream here...) This film really freaked me out, a state that was happily eased by the multitude of Christmas Carols that came after.

[this has to be the one, because it's the "First American Film Version" of the classic Dickens tale]

Does anybody else recall this film? I've not seen or heard of it since the 70s, when I was young. Of course I love the original Trinity - The Grinch, Rudolph, and Frosty the Snowman, in all their animated glory.

Worst Christmas movies: The Santa Clause (1 and 2) starring Tim Allen.

[ 20 December 2004: Message edited by: steffie ]


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Lard Tunderin' Jeezus
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posted 20 December 2004 10:23 PM      Profile for Lard Tunderin' Jeezus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A Christmas Story is on my fave list too. And another one also made in Toronto: One Magic Christmas, with Mary Steenburgen.
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posted 20 December 2004 10:59 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I love the b&w Christmas Carol with Alaister Simm. I also saw a reworking of A Christmas Carol a few years ago, modernized to make Scrooge a drug-dealing tough. It was a BBC production, and it was actually very good, although such things so rarely are. I've tried to acquire a copy of it, but haven't been able to. Has anybody else ever seen it?

I also love The Grinch Who Stole Christmas.

I hate all the Home Alone movies, and all its ilk. Urgh.


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posted 20 December 2004 11:02 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tokyo Godfathers.

A gay crossdresser, down-on-his-luck ex-bike racer and a runaway rebel teenage girl are all living homeless in the tent cities of Tokyo. They find a baby, and make resolve to give it a good life as they carry it to its rightful parents. Hilarity, drama and emotions abound.

Truly, the best Christmas movie I've ever seen.

Directed by Satoshi "King" Kon. He who directed the disturbing Perfect Blue and beautifully bizzare Millenium Actress.

[ 20 December 2004: Message edited by: Papal_Bull ]


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Left Turn
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Michelle wrote:
quote:
The original cartoon version of The Grinch Who Stole Christmas.

Yup, this is a classic.

Zoot wrtoe:

quote:
I love the b&w Christmas Carol with Alaister Simm.

Havn't seen this in years. I remember seeing it as a child on the Tommy Hunter Chrismas Special. I also really enjoy the Muppet Christams Carol

Josh wrote:

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I also have a soft spot for the Home Alone movies.

I especially enjoy Home Alone 2. Absolutely hilarious.


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posted 21 December 2004 06:26 AM      Profile for fuslim     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A Christmas Carol with Alistair Sim.

I have seen this any number of times, and I love it every time. It has never lost it's effect on me, in fact, I think the effect has grown over the years.

The scene where Scrooge rushes down the stairs and frightens the maid half to death by leaping about and laughing is one of the most well done movie scenes of all time.

There will never be another Christmas movie like it. I saw a colourized version it was awful.

It is some sort of perversity of North American culture that thinks colour makes movies.

It doesn't. Stories, acting, directing, and camera work make movies.


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posted 21 December 2004 08:07 AM      Profile for RealityStick   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Definitely the 1951 Christmas Carol (although the 1984 George C. Scott Christmas Carol and The Muppet Christmas Carol are both acceptable versions), and the original animated Grinch (no-one beats Karloff as the Grinch!).

I also have a soft spot for Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas.

A lesser-known "classic" item is the original 1960 version of the Twilight Zone episode "The Night of the Meek" starring Art Carney.

And for an odd bit o' Can-con...anyone remember the Rich Little version of A Christmas Carol from the early 1980's?

RS


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posted 21 December 2004 08:47 AM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"The Life of Brian"

Good for easter, too.


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posted 21 December 2004 09:04 AM      Profile for drgoodword   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In the sub-category of Holiday-set old favourites, I'd vote:

Die Hard
Trading Places

And I'd give an honourable mention for Christmas movies to Bill Murray's Scrooged, a Holiday film that flirted with greatness, but didn't quite make it.


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posted 21 December 2004 09:25 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by fuslim:
A Christmas Carol with Alistair Sim.

I have seen this any number of times, and I love it every time. It has never lost it's effect on me, in fact, I think the effect has grown over the years.

The scene where Scrooge rushes down the stairs and frightens the maid half to death by leaping about and laughing is one of the most well done movie scenes of all time.

There will never be another Christmas movie like it. I saw a colourized version it was awful.

It is some sort of perversity of North American culture that thinks colour makes movies.

It doesn't. Stories, acting, directing, and camera work make movies.


Agree with every word of that post. I'll never forget my dad laughing, year after year after year, at Sim's virtuoso giggling fits.

Sometime in the nineties, I think, someone did an animated version of Dylan Thomas's Child's Christmas in Wales, dubbing in Richard Burton's recording of the work. (Burton was by then, alas, dead.)

And I don't even usually like animated anything, but I was rooted to my chair all the way through that film. It is one of the most sheerly beautiful things I've ever seen.

If you see it pop up on the TV schedule, let me know. And don't miss it yourselves.


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Every year I watch Alistair Sims' Christmas Carol specifically to see the wee maid who answers the door at Scrooge's nephew's house, just before he gives his "Can you forgive an old fool..." speech. She has no lines, but she is invariably the highlight of my Xmas season, she just makes me feel so happy.

I'd have to say that the song that they all then dance to is probably my favourite Christmas Song, although the Barbara Allen song is very satisfying as well.

Best line: "I don't deserve to be so heppy."


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skdadl
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posted 21 December 2004 11:32 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pa-rum-pum-pum
Pa-da-da-da
Ra-da-da-da-da-da-da
*repeat*

That song, ronb?


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bittersweet
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posted 21 December 2004 12:06 PM      Profile for bittersweet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
GEORGE
Well, I handled that, Mr. Potter. You have all the papers there. His salary, insurance. I can personally vouch for his character.

POTTER (sarcastically)
A friend of yours?

GEORGE
Yes, sir.

POTTER
You see, if you shoot pool with some employee here, you can come and borrow money. What does that get us? A discontented, lazy rabble instead of a thrifty working class. And all because a few starry-eyed dreamers like Peter Bailey stir them up and fill their heads with a lot of impossible ideas. Now, I say . . .

George puts down his coat and comes around to the table, incensed by what Potter is saying about his father.

GEORGE
Just a minute just a minute. Now, hold on, Mr. Potter. You're right when you say my father was no business man. I know that. Why he ever started this cheap, penny-ante Building and Loan, I'll never know. But neither you nor anybody else can say anything against his character, because his whole life was . . . Why, in the twenty-five years since he and Uncle Billy started this thing, he never once thought of himself. Isn't that right, Uncle Billy? He didn't save enough money to send Harry to school, let alone me. But he did help a few people get out of your slums, Mr. Potter. And what's wrong with that? Why . . . Here, you're all businessmen here. Doesn't it make them better citizens? Doesn't it make them better customers? You . . . you said . . . What'd you say just a minute ago? . . . They had to wait and save their money before they even ought to think of a decent home. Wait! Wait for what? Until their children grow up and leave them? Until they're so old and broken-down that they... Do you know how long it takes a working man to save five thousand dollars? Just remember this, Mr. Potter, that this rabble you're talking about . . . they do most of the working and paying and living and dying in this community. Well, is it too much to have them work and pay and live and die in a couple of decent rooms and a bath? Anyway, my father didn't think so. People were human beings to him, but to you, a warped, frustrated old man, they're cattle. Well, in my book he died a much richer man than you'll ever be!

POTTER
I'm not interested in your book. I'm talking about the Building and Loan.

GEORGE
I know very well what you're talking about. You're talking about something you can't get your fingers on, and it's galling you. That's what you're talking about, I know.
(to the Board)
Well, I've said too much. I . . . You're the Board here. You do what you want with this thing. Just one thing more, though. This town needs this measly one-horse institution if only to have some place where people can come without crawling to Potter. Come on, Uncle Billy!

George leaves the room, followed by the jubilant Uncle Billy. Potter's face is grim with hatred.

POTTER
Sentimental hogwash!


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posted 21 December 2004 12:59 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Life of Brian - funniest movie ever.

Just so you know it takes all kinds, I happen to love colorization of old movies in general and the Alastair Sim Scrooge in particular.

quote:
What else can I be when I live in such a
world of fools as this Merry Christmas! Out
upon merry Christmas. What's Christmas time
to you but a time for paying bills without
money; a time for finding yourself a year
older, but not an hour richer; a time for
balancing your books and having every item
in 'em through a round dozen of months
presented dead against you?
If I could work my will, every idiot who
goes about with "Merry Christmas" on his
lips, should be boiled with his own pudding,
and buried with a stake of holly through
his heart. He should!

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quote:
Pa-rum-pum-pum
Pa-da-da-da
Ra-da-da-da-da-da-da
*repeat*

The very one! A sprightlier and jollier tune was ne'er typed. My feet are a-tapping at this very moment.


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skdadl
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posted 21 December 2004 01:13 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Do you deserve to be so happy?
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ronb
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I can't help it! I'm as giddy as a schoolgirl!
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skdadl
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What an intelligent boy! What an enchanting boy!

(Or something to that effect.)


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posted 21 December 2004 01:18 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Who me? Cor.
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skdadl
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posted 21 December 2004 01:22 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
God bless us, every one, ronb.
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Just so you know it takes all kinds, I happen to love colorization of old movies in general and the Alastair Sim Scrooge in particular.

Philistine!!!!

B&w handles light differently than colour. Colourizing just looks weird. Wrong. Very, very WRONG.

I am going to write a stern letter to CBC for showing the colourized version this week...


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The colourization of the Alistar Sim Christmas Carol is one of the worst visual depictions in history. Not only are the colours unreal, but if any movie called for Dickensian black and white, it was that one.
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The movie Pleasantville intentionally colorized, but did it in a way to achieve specific effects. In the director's words, "...these people in color are becoming more real, not less... So if we just used the old colorization method of shooting in black-and-white and applying cover on top of it, that would look pasty and phony."

So instead, what they did was this: "...I'm shooting in color and then I'm desaturating the environment around the color to create black-and-white. But we had to make it look like real black-and-white. If you just desaturate color film, it looks terrible. It looks flat.

"So we electronically amp up the contrast, so you get the richer blacks and whiter whites - so it pops. You have to hard-light the sections of the frame that are black-and-white so it looks like an old black-and-white movie while we soft-light the parts of the frame that are color..."

(Quoted from an Ebert interview)


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A CHRISTMAS STORY and the Alistair Sim version of A CHRISTMAS CAROL are both on my list as well.

Also high up on the list: THE SOUND OF MUSIC (yes, it's stupid and schmalzy, but I absolutely loved it when I was a kid, so my feelings about it will probably always be positive). It isn't technically a Christmas movie, but as it's always shown at Christmastime I've always associated it with the holidays.

There's another version of "A Christmas Carol" that I must admit I have a soft spot for: EBBIE, which features a female Scrooge played by Susan Lucci. It's a conventional and completely unexceptional film, but I don't care, I love it--I think the fact that La Lucci oozes so much bitchiness helps offset what could have been standard schmalziness (though my toleration level for schmalz is quite a bit higher at this time of year).

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Apocalyse Now

It's not much of a Christmas Movie but it upholds my feeling about the season.

Insanity and Greed.


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'Mixed Nuts' - Steve Martin's seasonal screwball comedy.
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A part of 'A Christmas Carol' I didn't appreciate when I was young, but increased my enjoyment of the movie later on was the scene where the ragpickers (and Scrooge's maid was in there, I believe) are going over Scrooge's stuff after his death.

Their utter pragmatism was so shocking to Scrooge. Yet that is precisely what he was in his life. After all, there is nothing more pragmatic than capitalism.


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Scrooge's maid was in there, I believe

She was indeed, which adds a certain comic depth to his later "conversion" scene with her.


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"Badder Santa" -- The Misanthrope's Christmas movie.

Oh yeah, that and "A Charlie Brown Christmas."

I have complex emotional reactions about Christmas.


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On a similar topic, wild horses couldn't drag me to see Christmas with the Kranks.
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Tora Tora Tora! and Tommy.

For New Years I''ll go with Annie Get Your Gun, Gidget Goes Hawaiian, The Wizard of Oz, and Last Tango in Paris.


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