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posted 24 January 2005 12:28 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is a two-pronged thread. I was looking on the net for a singer I'd heard at work when I ended up HERE, a weird kind of cultural 'fortune cookie' site that tells you what kind of music you must know if you're from a particular place.

Aside from some of the weird stuff (Long Island claims Guy Lombardo and Taylor Dayne??), this is what it has to say about Italy:

Italian pop music is the only one worth a listen here in the EU (apart from the UK, of course). You know the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Michael Jackson, the U2, Madonna, Claudio Baglioni, Laura Pausini, Vasco Rossi, Eros Ramazzotti and Jovanotti. If not, you know at least Frank Sinatra, Louis Armstrong, Claudio Villa, Mina, Domenico Modugno, Gianni Morandi and Adriano Celentano. If you're over 50, you know several arias from a few Operas and sing along when you hear them.

Emphasis mine.

Re: my two new fave singers, Ron and Adriano Celentano, it made me think about what (if any) effect the romantic classical period and/or Italian folk music has had on the modern pop sensibility.

I'm a one-hit afficionado of Ron - the only song I have of his is Il Sole E La Luna, and I don't know much about him, even if he writes his own songs.

Adriano Celentano is (according to my boss), the grand old man of Italian Pop, and apparently he's been around since the 60s.

What I notice about both their songs (most of the tunes I really like of Adriano's are from his 1999 album Io Non So Parlar d'Amore, which (like Ron's hit too) are all very MOR and actually remind me a *lot* of the early 80s albums by Robert Plant, Don Henley, David Bowie and Robert Palmer, in that they have a very 80s production value, but they benefit from excellent musicians (particularly rhythm sections) and are the works of accomplished songwriters).

Further to that, the song structure of all the songs I've heard so far is very complex for the pop genre, definitely superior to the typical MOR and definitely far above typical EuroPop.

I wonder, is this complex compositional value typical of Italian Pop (as seems possible from the bolded quote above)? Or have I happened to stumble upon the best songwriters of the genre?

[ 24 January 2005: Message edited by: Anchoress ]

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Papal Bull
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posted 24 January 2005 12:45 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Europop is good, but I find Eurobeat to be far better. Maybe I'm just a horrible person.

Speaking of, Boom Boom, if you read this, did you like JPOP?

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Boom Boom
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posted 24 January 2005 03:45 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
JPOP??? Gaaaahhhhhh.

Tried to shake that vile stuff out of my speakers. Put on some old 'Stones to get my ya-yas out.

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posted 24 January 2005 10:29 AM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One of the hotels I stayed in while travelling on business was right across the road from a disco. I certainly didn't have to go inside to hear the music on a Sunday night. I did have to keep my windows closed to get some rest, though. Music was pretty good.
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Agent 204
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posted 24 January 2005 10:32 AM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I belive "Gloria", a hit for the late Laura Branigan, is a translation of an Italian pop song.
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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 24 January 2005 11:28 AM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It was... and just as hideous in English as in the original Italian. Not surprisingly, her second hit "Ti Amo" was also originally sung in Italian.
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