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Michelle
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posted 20 July 2006 03:52 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I thought Michael Moore was supposed to be coming out with a new movie on the US health care system. I've been hearing about it for a while now, and I was just reminded while reading this book review of Michael Moore's biography.

I wonder when it'll be done? (Oh, duh. I didn't read closely enough - apparently he wants to release it in 2008 because it's an election year.)

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Sineed
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posted 20 July 2006 06:00 AM      Profile for Sineed     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In Mike's own words:
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We've spent the better part of this year shooting our next movie, "Sicko." As we've done with our other films, we don't discuss them while we are making them. If people ask, we tell them "Sicko" is "a comedy about 45 million people with no health care in the richest country on earth.

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Odin
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posted 20 July 2006 11:05 AM      Profile for Odin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I do and don't like Michael Moore.

I used to think that I was dumb after having watched Fahrenheit 9/11. Gladly, I've found out that others have seen the non-sequiturs and other farts in logic contained throughout the piece (e.g.: http://www.slate.com/id/2102723/).

I liked Bowling for Columbine, though. I just find that Moore sometimes lets rhetoric get ahead of truth when the truth is inconvenient.


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posted 20 July 2006 11:30 AM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fahrenheit 9-11 had some logical glitches, mostly because it did not have a single point of view, but incorporated several different critiques of the US into one film.

But Moore was one of the few American journalists who did not fail his countrymen, who did not simply regurgitate propaganda about WMD and Saddam's coming "mushroom cloud."

In retrospect, several of Moore's tropes were quite forsighted. Famously, he caught President Bush spending seven minutes reading to pre-schoolers while New York and Washington burned.

Moore created that moment in the public mind. He also created the George-Bush-on-mental-vacation trope, one which was highly useful in understanding why a great American city was destroyed on Bush's watch.

The linked article comes from Christopher Hitchens. As a vociferous supporter of the war in Iraq, he was wrong about the biggest issue of the day. So, I'll continue to watch Moore, and to treat Hitchens as someone without much judgment.


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morningstar
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posted 20 July 2006 01:07 PM      Profile for morningstar     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i agree with you jeff,

moore is never doing balanced, intellectual presentation
he is hitting us with what he's dredged up to conteract the soundbite propaganda of the administration. and remembering his audience---they don't have much in the way of attention span nor subtle reflective habits of thought.
i think he's clever to hit em hard and keep it simple.


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Michelle
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posted 20 July 2006 01:41 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Huh? What audience would that be?
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chester the prairie shark
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posted 20 July 2006 02:51 PM      Profile for chester the prairie shark     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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What audience would that be?

america in general i think


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morningstar
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posted 20 July 2006 03:03 PM      Profile for morningstar     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
in his interviews he makes it clear that he is trying to reach the middle america that doesn't have a clue what is being perpetrated under their noses...the ones who could possibly be swayed from voting republican.
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Michelle
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posted 20 July 2006 03:38 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ah, I see. Okay, I can understand that. The folks who think Faux News programs are deep.

When I first read your post, the audience that came to mind is the working class, because when I think of Michael Moore movies, I think of them as being aimed at the working class. Which is why I thought, hey, wait a minute, I'm working class and I like to think I have a half decent attention span and ability to think in subtleties - most of the time.

But I actually think his appeal is way broader than the Faux News watchers, which is good.


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Aristotleded24
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posted 20 July 2006 04:45 PM      Profile for Aristotleded24   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I enjoyed Farenheiht 911 personally, although I did notice that it is quite different from other "Moore-style" documentaries. My main issue with Moore in general, and with F/911 in particular, is that his presentations are so blatantly one-sided that they fail to do what is absolutely necessary: convince people who don't already agree with him. The only time I've seen him refer to the arguments of his opponents would be either to mock them or twist them into something different.
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