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N.Beltov
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posted 12 February 2007 04:45 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Dixie Chicks, who enraged the Bush Administration and its minions with their public remarks distancing themselves from that war-mongering regime, won FIVE - count 'em - FIVE Grammys last night at the annual awards show. That regime really must have clay feet if three young women can frighten it so much. Kudos for the Chicks!
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Boom Boom
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posted 12 February 2007 04:51 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I love the Dixies, always have.
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Michelle
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posted 12 February 2007 05:02 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's great news. I saw them on Larry King one night (I've watched Larry King maybe twice or thrice in my life, and one of those times the Chicks were on it), and they were promoting this new album with "Not Ready to Make Nice" on it. They talked about all of the scandal and about how half the stations that cater to morons in their country refused to play any of their music, a bunch of other moron country musicians have ostracized them - and yet, they have risen above it and are making killer sales anyhow. It's so nice to see them come out on top.
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dgrollins
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posted 12 February 2007 08:35 AM      Profile for dgrollins   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
That's great news. It's so nice to see them come out on top.

Although I am not a fan of that type of music, I have a lot of respect for the way the DCs dealt with the "we're sorry he's from Texas" fall-out. As a old punk fan, I happen to think that that the song Not ready to make nice was pretty much the best "F-U we're pissed and not about to get over it" song produced in many, many years--it just happened to be produced by three female new country stars instead of someone with a blue mohawk and 16 piercings.

But...sadly, the DCs haven't really "come out on top." Bush may be sitting at all-time low approval rates, but American, for some bizarre reason, isn't ready to forgive the DCs. Album sales are flat in the U.S. and the group had to cancel a tonne of concerts, especially those in the red states. They are huge in Canada, however.

"How dare that woman speak her mind freely," Billy-Bob says. "She should just shut up and sing."

[ 12 February 2007: Message edited by: dgrollins ]


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Coyote
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posted 12 February 2007 10:38 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Awesome. I love the DCs. Saw them in concert in Saskatoon, and I loved it. My favourite song off the new album is

Easy Silence.

When the calls and conversations
Accidents and accusations
Messages and misperceptions
Paralyze my mind

Busses, cars, and airplanes leaving
Burning fumes of gasoline
And everyone is running
And I come to find a refuge in the

Easy silence that you make for me
It's okay when there's nothing more to say to me
And the peaceful quiet you create for me
And the way you keep the world at bay for me
The way you keep the world at bay

Monkeys on the barricades
Are warning us to back away
They form commissions trying to find
The next one they can crucify

And anger plays on every station
Answers only make more questions
I need something to believe in
Breathe in sanctuary in the

Easy silence that you make for me
It's okay when there's nothing more to say to me
And the peaceful quiet you create for me
And the way you keep the world at bay for me
The way you keep the world at bay

Children lose their youth too soon
Watching war made us immune
And I've got all the world to lose
But I just want to hold on to the

Easy silence that you make for me
It's okay when there's nothing more to say to me
And the peaceful quiet you create for me
And the way you keep the world at bay for me

The easy silence that you make for me
It's okay when there's nothing more to say to me
And the peaceful quiet you create for me
And the way you keep the world at bay for me
The way you keep the world at bay for me
The way you keep the world at bay


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M.Gregus
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posted 13 February 2007 11:51 AM      Profile for M.Gregus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Their triumph at the Grammys has increased my anticipation of seeing the documentary "Shut Up and Sing" at the local independent theatre. I can't wait till its showtime at the end of the month!
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posted 13 February 2007 03:25 PM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hate to be a spoilsport, but ... ah, who'm I kidding. I love to be a spoilsport.

...Maines's comment "seems less a political statement than a performer's pandering, just a saltier version of 'We love you, London.' "

And yet that comment is the basis for the Chicks' current stature as freedom-fighting musicians.

quote:
After Maines's backpedalling failed to work, the group and its managers apparently decided to mine the controversy for whatever benefit they could find. The three women appeared naked on the cover of Entertainment Weekly two months after the London concert.... The image seemed to suggest that they were being used by both sides, both pro-Bush and anti-Bush. But as the war in Iraq carried on and went bad and as Bush's approval ratings dived, the Chicks began to see themselves not merely as victims but as actors in an improvised free-speech drama.

Not Ready to Make Nice retracted Maines's retraction in song, without extending or fleshing out the dissent of her original remark. Neither the song nor the album that featured it (Taking the Long Way) contains any substantive political comment. The Chicks seem less agitated about American foreign policy (or the domestic impositions of the Patriot Act) than about what happened to them personally. They were having a perfect storybook career, and suddenly people got mad and said mean things and interfered with the steady rise of their concert receipts and album sales. ...

As they stood smiling with their trophies on Sunday, it seemed obvious that the Chicks had been converted into comforting surrogates for many in the music industry. ... For all those who wished they had said more when Bush seemed unstoppable, you couldn't find a gentler salve for a guilty conscience. Far better to have the Chicks beaming gratefully, than to have Neil Young up there, with his unfriendly scowl and angry album (Living with War, an unsuccessful Grammy nominee), and angry words, perhaps, for those who still don't feel comfortable dissing the Commander-in-chief in public.



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jrose
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posted 14 February 2007 02:17 PM      Profile for jrose     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Their triumph at the Grammys has increased my anticipation of seeing the documentary "Shut Up and Sing" at the local independent theatre. I can't wait till its showtime at the end of the month!

It looks like a great flick! I saw the preview when I went to see Little Miss Sunshine. I realized that they were blacklisted, but I didn't realize the extent to what the Dixie Chicks were forced to put up with. It's scary what being vocal can do to somebody in the spotlight. Censorship certainly didn't die with book burnings!


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Coyote
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posted 14 February 2007 05:19 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thing is, obscurantist, the DCs never tried to be an overtly political band. And their album resulting from the fallout is not particularly political either. It's personal. They're not pretending to be Rage Against the Machine.

And the don't have to be in order to be supported in their right to free speech.


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Michelle
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posted 14 February 2007 05:42 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think what happened with the retraction is that they saw the backlash and got scared. I mean, that was scary. I can only imagine what it would be like to be famous and then be vilified by half of your country for making an offhand joke about Bush. I can understand why she'd feel intimidated into a statement of regret for speaking hastily.

Did she mean it to be a major political statement when she made it? Probably not. Maybe she WAS just doing it in a "crowd-pleaser" kind of way, or as a self-deprecating joke (hey, all of us Texans aren't like Bush). I mean, heck, they were playing for an audience who doesn't like Bush. They don't particularly like Bush either, so they played to it.

I don't think you should have to be a lifelong activist in order to make a critical remark about a politician. It doesn't make you some kind of insincere poseur if you make an offhand remark, the whole country goes nuts, and then you decide to respond to the hatred by being firm about your right to say what you want and hold whatever political beliefs, likes, and dislikes you wish.

She backtracked on her retraction? Well, I would too. I can understand the immediate desire to control the damage after the initial reaction of fury from half the country by retracting. I can also understand why, after some sober second thought and after the Republiscum smear machine doesn't relent even after the retraction, she would start thinking, hey, I have nothing to apologize for. I didn't do anything wrong, and I'm going to stand my ground on it.

And hey, if that makes them heroines in the public eye, then so be it. Heroes and heroines are often people who are caught in a situation not of their own making, who then rise to the occasion. I think that is what these women have done.


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Coyote
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posted 14 February 2007 05:48 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So I basically could have just shut up, and let Michelle post.
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Krago
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posted 14 February 2007 07:44 PM      Profile for Krago     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Did Rage Against The Machine ever do this?


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Scout
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posted 14 February 2007 08:32 PM      Profile for Scout     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They shut down the New York Stock Exchange instead I think.
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