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Mycroft_
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posted 26 September 2003 04:34 PM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
New Doctor Who series to air in 2005

He's back and it's about time!


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And, as an added element to the series for cultural studies enthusiasts, spot the gay subtext!

Doctor Who ready to come out of the Tardis for Saturday TV series

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But in a development that may alarm purists, the new series is being written by Russell T Davies, the creator of Queer As Folk, the controversial Channel 4 drama about gay life in Manchester, and Bob and Rose, an ITV drama about a homosexual man falling for a straight woman.

Although Davies says he wants to "introduce the character to a modern audience", Lorraine Heggessey, the controller of BBC1, insisted yesterday that she did not expect a gay Doctor Who.


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posted 26 September 2003 05:13 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

EX-TER-MI-NATE!!

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posted 26 September 2003 05:31 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm so happy!
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Yay!

I'll break out the jelly babies!


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posted 29 September 2003 05:17 AM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
ah, but who should play Who? richard e. grant has been rumoured ... that's withnail-and-ironic, as paul mcgann screwed up the 1996 film so much.
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Can someone post a picture of Grant? I believe he's playing the Doctor in a one off animated version.

Anyway, I suspect that given that there's only one writer and given production costs we'er not going to see a return to the old format of four or five 4-part series a year. We'll probably be lucky to get one story told in six episodes.


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confirmation ... grant ... is ... playing ... our ... eternal ... enemy ... we ... must ... exterminate ... him.


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posted 05 October 2003 05:42 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The spirit of wobbliness, The Guardian, Sept 29

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There are several promising names being touted for the lead role (Bill Nighy, Jonathan Pryce, Richard E Grant) and some provocative ones (Dame Maggie Smith, Lenny Henry). Fans are used to the "why not a female Doctor Who?" argument being wheeled out every time our hero regenerates, this time round, the case is being made for a black Doctor or a gay Doctor, too.

For 26 years until 1989, he battled threats to the galaxy: from Sontarans, Zygons, Cybermen and one or two unconvincing rubber snakes. Now he faces his biggest challenge of all.

Can Doctor Who stave off the dark forces of homogeneity, thwart the nefarious management consultants, see off the Americanisers, and prove that there is a place for idiosyncratic, wildly imaginative British sci-fi in the 21st century?



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I read that Eddie Izzard was a possibility for the role - which would be very interesting.
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or maybe a vampire-hunting librarian ...
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Oh, he would be a very good choice for Doctor!
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comedy writers on dr. who?

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Mal Young, the BBC's controller of continuing drama series, said he had never received so many requests from writers and actors to be involved in a drama series before.

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Why not? Dr. Who was very funny at times - both intentionally and unintentionally.
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Douglas Adams was a writer on Doctor Who for a season.
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comedy: (the brain of morbius) the doctor and sarah arrive at the castle in a thunderstorm, the butler opens the castle door, and the doctor asks ... "excuse me, do you have a glass of water?"


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posted 19 March 2004 10:54 AM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
their people are talking to the BBC's people ... they'll do lunch, bada bing bada boom
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Yes, there is comedy in Dr. Who, but I like to think of it as incidental. Dr. Who is an adventure series, in my mind, not a campy jokefest. I suppose some might watch it for the wobbly sets and sketchy pseudo-science, but I don't. The humour in the show has to be carefully tailored to the strengths of the paticular actor playing the Doctor. And for God's sakes, to hell with the American demographic!
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Christopher Eccleston is the new Doctor Who! It seems that this guy is a serious actor, and REG is, for whatever reason, not doing the role. Although I know very little about him, I'm nevertheless glad it's not Eddie Izzard.

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I think I would have preferred Eddie. He could have done his action transvestite shtick! And after being subjected to near-daily viewings of Elizabeth, it's going to be hard to not think of Eccleston as the Duke of Norfolk..
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posted 20 March 2004 08:21 AM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
a short biography on ecclestone ...

an older photo from 2002:

oh, and if you've seen "24 hour party people," he had a cameo as the drunk in the underpass (the brick tunnel) berating tony wilson.


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aRoused, although I'm pretty unfamiliar with Eccleston's work, I think I can relate to your statement. I had the same problem with Peter Davison. Even now, when I watch him in the role I'm constantly reminded of Tristan Farnon from All Creatures Great And Small. His protrayals (especially in his first season as the Doctor) were pretty much indistinguishable to my eye. Casting lesser-knowns into the role has the one (small) benefit of their not bringing cognative dissonance with them.

Although I don't know much about Mr. Izzard, I suspect it would have been a similar situation for me in his case. I get the impression from his fans that they were eager to see him play the role because he would be Dr. Eddy Izzard. As much as I can understand the desire for fans to want to see their favourite comedian have a vehicle, as a Doctor Who fan I would be unhappy seeing the character mocked by the person playing him. They came close enough with Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy, in my opinion.

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That's a good point I hadn't really considered. BakerII and McCoy always seemed to be playing the role of Tom Baker-playing-the-Doctor.

At the very least, the hiatus should make this series different.


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Eccleston is a huge relief. He will make the role his own, and is the best capital A Actor to play the role since Troughton. This is going to work, thank god.
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Almost all the actors who have played the Doctor have been b-list actors. William Hartnell was a character actor who usually played crusty British army seargents. Troughton had minor film and tv credits. Jon Pertwee was a nightclub comedian who was also known for his work on the radio show "The Navy Lark". Tom Baker was a journeyman actor who played in a few horror films (as had Pertwee) and most notably was Rasputin in Nicholas and Alexandra. Sylvester McCoy was part of a comedy act.
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posted 21 March 2004 02:19 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
an exhaustingly helpful site ...

the mirror in the UK is reporting that he will be paid 500 000 for the 2005 season ... and that a second series is already planned for 2006.

the manchester evening news also points out that he seems to be a decent guy (salford is part of greater manchester).

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He has kept in touch with his roots, becoming a patron of an appeal to raise 1m for a scanner at Hope Hospital, Salford. Recently he has campaigned in vain to save the former Ambassador cinema in Langworthy Road, which he used to go to as a boy.

Eccleston has given his time generously to help support and inspire local youngsters. He rode to Swinton police station on his bike to meet teenagers praised by police for their work in the community. In November, he sent a message of support to young actors who were the stars of three films made in Langworthy and shown at the Salford Film Festival.



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good news: a decision on a new companion for the doctor.

bad news: it's billie piper, the youngest solo artist to debut at number one in the UK charts.

good news: it turns out she won an acting scholarship at age 12, and she got rave reviews in a BBC adaption of the canterbury tales (she was in "the miller's tale").


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we ..... have ..... been ..... exterminated
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That's a bugger. Still, there's always the oddly camp, flares-sporting Cybermen.

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quote:

Mr Hancock accused the BBC of lying about the reasons a deal had not been made.

He said the BBC had tried to commission a cartoon series about gay Daleks for BBC Three.



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quote:
Originally posted by Willowdale Wizard:
good news: a decision on a new companion for the doctor.

bad news: it's billie piper, the youngest solo artist to debut at number one in the UK charts.

good news: it turns out she won an acting scholarship at age 12, and she got rave reviews in a BBC adaption of the canterbury tales (she was in "the miller's tale").


Please please please don't be another Peri. (Nice body, extremely annoying)


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Mr Hancock accused the BBC of lying about the reasons a deal had not been made.

He said the BBC had tried to commission a cartoon series about gay Daleks for BBC Three.


Exthhhsterminate, faaabulous!

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As long as she isn't feigning a really poor American accent, we're safe.
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Dalek Eye for the Straight Guy?

"Your shirt and shoes are not coordinated. You call that an ensemble? EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!"

"You didn't know gazpacho soup must be served cold? EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!"

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Yeah well, there won't be any Daleks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3859651.stm


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quote:
Originally posted by Screaming Lord Byron:
That's a bugger. Still, there's always the oddly camp, flares-sporting Cybermen.

Yes, Star Trek really should have acknowledged the Borg's debt to the Cybermen in some way (though adding the "assimilation" concept was a brilliant move in adding to the Borg's general horror/creepiness factor).


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quote:
"You didn't know gazpacho soup must be served cold? EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!"

Now there's a pitch I'd like to be able to listen in on. "Ya see, Mike baby, it's like Red Dwarf meets Doctor Who... hello? hello?"

(calls back)

"Hi Mike? Yeah, I think we got cut off... What's Red Dwarf... Well it's British, see, and it's kind of a TV version of Dark Star... hullo? Hullo? Damn Hollywood cell service..."


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quote:
Yes, Star Trek really should have acknowledged the Borg's debt to the Cybermen in some way (though adding the "assimilation" concept was a brilliant move in adding to the Borg's general horror/creepiness factor).

Actually, in Attack of the Cybermen (1985), the Cybermen "cybernised" several humans, including the mercenary Lytton, who sacrificed his life to destroy the Cybermen's evil plans. So the concept of "assimilation" predates the Borg by a number of years.

And yes, I am a huge geek.


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BTW: If you want to talk about uncredited American SciFi homages to Dr. Who, how about Bill and Ted travelling through time in a PHONE BOOTH?

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NEEEEERRRRRDDDDS!!!!

Haha, BBC Kids shows like 4 hours worth of old school Dr. Who just about every night I think. It's great.


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