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Snuckles
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posted 27 August 2005 09:01 PM      Profile for Snuckles   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Civil rights action says the system's admissions policy discriminates against students who are taught creationism and religious viewpoints.

By David Rosenzweig, Times Staff Writer

Amid the growing national debate over the mixing of religion and science in America's classrooms, University of California admissions officials have been accused in a federal civil rights lawsuit of discriminating against high schools that teach creationism and other conservative Christian viewpoints.

The suit was filed in Los Angeles federal court Thursday by the Assn. of Christian Schools International, which represents more than 800 religious schools in the state, and by the Calvary Chapel Christian School in Murrieta, which has an enrollment of more than 1,000.

Under a policy implemented with little fanfare a year ago, UC admissions authorities have refused to certify high school science courses that use textbooks challenging Darwin's theory of evolution, the suit says.

Other courses rejected by UC officials include "Christianity's Influence in American History," "Christianity and Morality in American Literature" and "Special Providence: American Government."

The 10-campus UC system requires applicants to complete a variety of courses, including science, mathematics, history, literature and the arts. But in letters to Calvary Chapel, university officials said some of the school's Christian-oriented courses were too narrow to be acceptable.

According to the lawsuit, UC's board of admissions also advised the school that it would not approve biology and science courses that relied primarily on textbooks published by Bob Jones University Press and A Beka Books, two Christian publishers.

Instead, the board instructed the schools to "submit for UC approval a secular science curriculum with a text and course outline that addresses course content/knowledge generally accepted in the scientific community."


Read it here.


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slimpikins
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posted 27 August 2005 09:15 PM      Profile for slimpikins     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So much for all those Astronomy courses that I took where the model of the solar system had the Earth in the middle.
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 27 August 2005 09:19 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So.

I run a school that teaches my students that the earth was created by God in six days about 5,000 years ago and then I demand that the state universities credit those courses toward admission.

And this is hostility toward Christianity.

And they call liberals "moonbats."

[ 27 August 2005: Message edited by: Américain Égalitaire ]


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raccunk
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posted 27 August 2005 09:23 PM      Profile for raccunk     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why don't they just start a Christian University? In fact, I think there are already plenty in the US already. I'm certain they would be happier going there than to one of the secular Universities. I'm pretty sure the UC is as secular as it gets.
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byzantine
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posted 27 August 2005 09:49 PM      Profile for byzantine        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think Trinity Western is Christian. Remember the Charter case?
I do (barely), though I can't remember if that's BC or Alta.

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Snuckles
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posted 27 August 2005 11:23 PM      Profile for Snuckles   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If this is an example of what they are teaching at those private schools, then I don't blame the U of C for not approving them.
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nonsuch
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posted 28 August 2005 02:17 AM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The trouble is that pseudo-christian non-science is creeping into public schools. This means that students who would rather study the real thing aren't allowed to, and thus are barred from good universities, through no fault of their own. This means that a lot of bright, promising kids can't get a decent education.

However the 'out-of-control' judiciary handles this suit, somebody who doesn't deserve to be hurt is going to get hurt.
Worse: in the long term, we'll see institutions of higher learning divided into red and blue - with nobody much hiring the red graduates. And then... then... oh, shit!


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Michelle
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posted 28 August 2005 09:21 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think that's a pity, nonesuch, about kids who don't have a choice about what they're being taught in public schools, but you know, it's their parents who are pushing for creationism to be taught in science class. It sucks that this means for those kids that they'll have to redo high school courses at high schools that teach real science, and they are definitely the victims, no doubt. But you can bet that, after a few years of no children being accepted by high school A, B, and C at such-and-such county, the parents will be clamouring for real science courses instead of BlowJob U science texts. (Sorry, but whenever I see "BJU", that's the first thing that comes to mind. )
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Boom Boom
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posted 28 August 2005 12:00 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Another problem is that these fundie schools may teach from a very conservative, literal reading of the bible, and perhaps deprive young students of any interest in in-depth study of the scriptures, and they in turn will pass on _their_ biblical ignorance to their children. More reason for Canada to as far as possible differentiate ourselves from the Hysterical States of America by certifying throughout this land only accredited schools of learning. All private religious schools in Canada must adhere to a curriculum set by their respective province. No fundie schools, here, please!
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nonsuch
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posted 28 August 2005 11:28 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
but you know, it's their parents who are pushing for creationism to be taught in science class.

More sins of the fathers being visisted upon the next generation? That may be just in the divine scope of things, but it sure ain't fair on the human scale!
Besides, it may not be their parents at all. The parents may be a minority in a red county. You know what it's like to be a minority. Not so easy to defend your theoretical rights (if any), and not so easy to up and move, either.

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Rufus Polson
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posted 29 August 2005 05:31 PM      Profile for Rufus Polson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
But you can bet that, after a few years of no children being accepted by high school A, B, and C at such-and-such county, the parents will be clamouring for real science courses instead of BlowJob U science texts.

That's terrible! Those BlowJob U texts are very important--The Onion says the BlowJobless rate is soaring!


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