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Topic: I'm afraid of Americans.
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Black Dog
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posted 13 September 2002 02:28 PM
My formative years were in the early to mid '80s, right in the shadowy twighlight of the Cold War. I remember as a kid being haunted by the spectre of a nuclear conflagration that would destroy the world. I remember movies like "The Day After" and such giving me nightmares, ones that usually ended with me disappearing in a flash of light with nothing but my shadow blasted against the wall.During the nadir of the Cold War, there was, at least, the knowledge that the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction (a term I learned when I was probably 6 or 7 years old) kept the dogs of war at bay. Only a true madman would take the first step in a conflict that would turn most of civilizaton into a big glass parking lot. Fast forward almost 20 years later. The nightmares are gone, but I can't open the paper or watch the evening news without feeling the familiar cold feeling of terror creeping up on me. The Janus-like balance of global security is gone. The lone superpower is now freely stating its imperial agenda and no international law or military force can stop it. Its leaders are exhbiting the kind of bloodlust normally associated with such power-mad monsters of history as Stalin or Genghis Khan. I'm scared. I am also torn. On one hand, I harbour some hopeful optimism that these are the last thrashings of a dying beast, grown fat on oil and the sweat and blood of the rest of the world, but now bloated and desperatly trying to grab what it can before it collapses under the weight of its own corruption. On the other, though, I am afraid that we are living in the early stages of a global empire whose ambitions, long tacet, are now on display for all to see. I see words that were concieved as expressions of the highest ideals of mankind-truth, justice, freedom- cheapened and abused by rich men who mouth them as platitutdes, but deal in lies, miserey, greed, and hypocrsicy. What lies ahead? Are we as people doomed to merely watch, to peep about to find ourselves dishonourable graves, as the play says? Can I hope for something better for the future, so my nieces and nephew can grow up without knowing this same feeling of powerlessness and fear? I hope so. But until then, I'll be behind the couch with my blankie.
From: Vancouver | Registered: Jun 2002
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josh
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posted 13 September 2002 02:46 PM
You should be afraid. I live here and I'm scared shitless. We're being led by a quasi-fascist regime that has used 9/11 the way the Nazis used the Reichstag fire in 1933. This government will lie, smear and cheat to get what it wants. It is aided by a whore media that either is directly, or indirectly complicit, in its propaganda.But remember that the thugs in power do not necessarily speak for a majority of Americans. Recall that approximately 52% of voters did not vote for Bush in 2000. And many of the people who support his foreign policy do so out of reflex, and don't really understand what's going on. Maybe I'm being naive, but I'm hopeful that eventually the people will see the truth. That the thugs will go too far and even the media whores will be forced to say that the jig is up. That the people will come to realize that the emperor has no clothes. I saw it happen with Nixon and George I; maybe it will happen with George II. If not, I may join you behind that couch. [ September 13, 2002: Message edited by: josh ]
From: the twilight zone between the U.S. and Canada | Registered: Aug 2002
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josh
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posted 13 September 2002 07:40 PM
Kropotkin:You're right public financing is important. But unfortunately that's a long-term goal. But good God why can't there be one Democratic leader who will throw away the polls and the political and media advisors and take a principled stand. Say that Bush's whole plan since 9-11 has been to exploit the situation for political benefit. That he's destroying many of the country's freedoms. And that he's a fraud who made his money through inside connections. Is that too much to ask?
From: the twilight zone between the U.S. and Canada | Registered: Aug 2002
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Eauz
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posted 14 September 2002 07:33 PM
It's weird to look at the USA(Today) and Germany(1930's) and realize some of the Similarites(sp) that they have. One thing that is all over the place is the American Flags Everywhere. Just like in NaZi Germany. The USA just needs to firstly do a bit more research on this WAR on Terrorism, like if they didn't have this "horrible" hatred against Communists, maybe they might not have put the Taliban leaders into power. I am also very happy that there are many countries rebelling against the USA's War on Terrorism. Also, I had the chance to live in 3 countries in my 19 years of life, (Canada(Born here) USA(During High School years) and Belgium(On an Exchange Program), and I saw 3 different points of view from them. Canada - We have our "National" news and support, but we are also looking out into the World at other issues, not just the ones that will be on the Front Page of "The New York Times." USA - They were more into their own stuff going on, like with the Politics going on in the country, National Team Sports, and just OVERKILL of "BIG TIME" Topics in the Nation ONLY. Living in the West coast for 2.5 years there, I rarly heard news (unless like Electric Problems in California, or local news) about the West Coast States. And that bothered me for a country who is united like that. So if they can't find out info like that and report "less" important things, but important non the less. Belgium - Ok, I don't know if many people know where this country is, I before going on this Exchange Program didn't even know it existed. And that is a problem with North American Countries (Especially in USA and Canada) But when I was there, I found out that they care about (a) Their local news (b) Forgein News (c)Everything in the World and in Europe. Sure you could say "Belgium is part of the European Union, and that would mean they have to, but just being in Europe made you realize that there is more to the world than just Canada and USA. Unfortunatly we in North America Don't Care much about What is going on in the World, unless it Hits us Directly. I got an example of how much they care about news in the World. I cliped out an article like in April or something that said that G.Bush2 wanted to make Schools Seperate from Boys and Girls. Do you think you would see something like that in a USA newspaper? Especially this clip, being a Local paper, do you think it would be in a Local paper in North America? Maybe 1:10000 ? quote: "The important thing is not to stop questioning."
-Albert Einstein
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SuperGimp
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posted 19 September 2002 01:25 PM
I am not sure why (have read numerous theories) --but there is a huge hate-the-government streak in America that stretches back to the old west and the civil war. That, along with what Josh is saying, gives me hope. Bumper stickers such as "To err is human, to really screw things up takes government" are popular here in the south. A large number of Americans have never voted, NOT out of apathy, as the goody-goodies assume, but out of HATRED for GOVERNMENT, the way people hate cops, bureaucratic meddlers and authority. There is an old punchline in these parts that comes from an ancient joke about finding feds at the moonshine still: "If yew guv'mint, yew gonna carry yore ass home inna bucket." I meditate on that line frequently, and hope people will sooner or later get fed up, as they did with Nixon, and let GWB carry his ass home inna bucket. I liked Flowers By Irene's post on the other thread about the break-up of the US empire, and think that is the best hope for us now. [ September 19, 2002: Message edited by: SuperGimp ]
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