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Doug
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posted 15 November 2007 05:59 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, it does come from a surfer...who happens to have a PhD in theoretical physics.

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Despite this unusual career path, his proposal is remarkable because, by the arcane standards of particle physics, it does not require highly complex mathematics.

Even better, it does not require more than one dimension of time and three of space, when some rival theories need ten or even more spatial dimensions and other bizarre concepts. And it may even be possible to test his theory, which predicts a host of new particles, perhaps even using the new Large Hadron Collider atom smasher that will go into action near Geneva next year.

Although the work of 39 year old Garrett Lisi still has a way to go to convince the establishment, let alone match the achievements of Albert Einstein, the two do have one thing in common: Einstein also began his great adventure in theoretical physics while outside the mainstream scientific establishment, working as a patent officer, though failed to achieve the Holy Grail, an overarching explanation to unite all the particles and forces of the cosmos.

Now Lisi, currently in Nevada, has come up with a proposal to do this. Lee Smolin at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, describes Lisi's work as "fabulous". "It is one of the most compelling unification models I've seen in many, many years," he says.


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sknguy
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posted 19 November 2007 11:27 AM      Profile for sknguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This was how the string theory revolution first got its start. Through what was previously a nineteenth century mathematical parlor trick. Kinda cool though, just like that surfer dude physicist. But I'd say just let the guy work on it for a few years before passing judgment. Rock on surfer dude.

By the way, your link doesn’t seem to work.


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Fidel
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posted 19 November 2007 03:58 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well it's an idea that needs to be followed through on to what could eventually lead to the holy grail of physics or perhaps something in between. It's all good, and there should be all kinds of funding for this guy. Meanwhile, annual war budgets and corporate welfare black holes continue to be well fed.
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jrootham
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posted 19 November 2007 04:08 PM      Profile for jrootham     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have to figure there are at least 6 (arbitrary physics constant) emergency meetings of tenure committees at physics departments coming up with tenure track (if not tenure) positions for this guy.

He's probably going to be happily employed for the next few years. Bonus if he can talk to students or write grant applications.

Sorry, minor error, reverse the positions of the bonus point skills.


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arthur
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posted 19 November 2007 07:32 PM      Profile for arthur     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

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sknguy
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posted 20 November 2007 06:53 AM      Profile for sknguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This E8 system seems to be a manner of describing relationships between particles. But, I don’t understand how it’s relating particles with the actual substance of everything? Is that a puzzle that still needs resolving?
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DrConway
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posted 20 November 2007 07:25 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The thing *I* like about this is that I never really liked the idea of having to add in extra dimensions in order to make unified theories 'work'; it smacked a little too much of adding epicycles. Heh.

Also, the fact that we cannot yet see the Higgs Boson even though it should weigh somewhere between 80 and 160 GeV (well within the reach of today's colliders, but the caveat is that the cross-section for production may be very low, in which case the LHC gives us a lot more energy and so the cross-section for production should go up), and the fact that so far supersymmetry doesn't seem to exist physically is another mark, to me, against some commonly-accepted models of the universe.

Unfortunately, because of a mathematical requirement called gauge invariance, the Higgs boson is required to exist in the Standard Model, and so its lack of existence means that the weak interaction's successful mathematical analysis may rest on a rather tortuous hornswoggling that cries out for a better physical description.

The odd thing is that it was an analysis of the weak interaction's symmetry-breaking properties in the first place that led to this notion that there's a connection to the fact that it is the only one of the four known ones in this universe to use massive exchange particles.


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B.L. Zeebub LLD
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posted 21 November 2007 02:25 AM      Profile for B.L. Zeebub LLD     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Of Everything?

Like, it'll totally stop the rising seas and feed the starving and crack the old chestnut; "how to live?"

Cool.


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500_Apples
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posted 21 November 2007 07:53 AM      Profile for 500_Apples   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jrootham:
I have to figure there are at least 6 (arbitrary physics constant) emergency meetings of tenure committees at physics departments coming up with tenure track (if not tenure) positions for this guy.

He's probably going to be happily employed for the next few years. Bonus if he can talk to students or write grant applications.

Sorry, minor error, reverse the positions of the bonus point skills.


1) Theories like this are published all the time. The difference is this guy got the attention of a New Scientist reporter. NS specializes in scientific sensationalism, with many cover stories on the ether, on loop quantum gravity, on extra dimension and on global warming denial.

2) Most physics professors are very good at communication with physics students.


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Blondin
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posted 28 November 2007 09:10 AM      Profile for Blondin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does it involve the number 42 perchance?
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abnormal
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posted 28 November 2007 03:42 PM      Profile for abnormal   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Does it involve the number 42 perchance?

How could you possibly answer a question relating to the theory of everything that doesn't involve "42"?


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