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posted 25 February 2006 02:53 PM      Profile for forum observer   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sean Carroll is visiting Vancouver, and for some of you who don't know who he is look here.

Maybe you can welcome him?

But since he's blogged and they might be a diversity of opinion about the "nature of our country" I thought it appropriate that you be aware of the opportunity to express your opinion.


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posted 25 February 2006 11:29 PM      Profile for skeptikool        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
An interesting blog and responses. Had to laugh at this one:
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Remarkably enough, despite have only two Jews, Vancouver BC seems to support some 13 synagogues.

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posted 26 February 2006 12:05 AM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And they all look ridiculously expensive. Ostentation in religion is annoying, particularly because of the fact that the platitudinous crap all too often spouted by religionists usually has to do with the importance of piety, humility and a host of other traits that certainly don't get associated with ostentatious displays of wealth.

(Think about it - how many rich people have we all heard of that are complete arseholes in public and think nothing of gauche displays of how much money they have?)


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posted 26 February 2006 12:30 AM      Profile for forum observer   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
importance of piety, humility and a host of other traits that certainly don't get associated with ostentatious displays of wealth.

Sean Carroll was under the impression I gathered that healthcare was free from the very good nature of a "religious upbringing" and thus assumed a Godless north had something to do with it.

I was thinking more along the line of "good leaders" who changed society, and I think of Martin Luther King, Anwar Sadat, Tommy Douglas......

So in a way, we needed "heros of movements..labour, and they might have been raised in a religious, or non relgious way, and had nothing to do with wealth in the sense you are speaking. But I might of misunderstood that as well.

In terms of Healthcare, if you can make the existing system better, then why would you open it up to profiteering? Capitalism seeps into making the almighty dollar, over top of the care, regardless of the dollars in your pocket.

Ask a poor man or woman how they feel, while they wait.

Lech Walesa – Nobel Lecture*

During his latest visit to the land of his fathers, Pope John Paul II had this to say on this point:

"Why do the working people in Poland - and everywhere else for that matter - have the right to such a dialogue? It is because the working man is not a mere tool of production, but he is the subject which throughout the process of production takes precedence over the capital. By the fact of his labor, the man becomes the true master of his workshop, of the process of labor, of the fruits of his toil and of their distribution. He is also ready for sacrifices if he feels that he is a real partner and has a say in the just division of what has been produced by common effort".

Martin Luther King had words to say about capitalism as well. The above, should be enough?

Emotive recognizition does not set any of us apart, as the struggle on awareness, is one of perfecting and progressing.


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