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Topic: Putting a face to the past
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'lance
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Babbler # 1064
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posted 01 May 2002 05:37 PM
quote: cmpb???
Comb, perhaps . Though perhaps among young people these days, this hairstyle would be considered rad, or phat, or whatever it is they do say nowadays (blessmewhatdotheyteachthemattheseschools youngwhippersnapperswhyinmyday, etc. & so forth). You might be thinking of forensic reconstruction. But it's somewhat less than 100% accurate. There's considerable guesswork involved, and an unavoidable amount of subjectivity, for example in determining hair, eye and skin colour, or in the shape of the nose. Joyce Carol Oates has a good story based on this very subject in the latest Harper's.
From: that enchanted place on the top of the Forest | Registered: Jul 2001
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Trinitty
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Babbler # 826
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posted 01 May 2002 05:52 PM
Present day humans did not evolve from Neandertals. Their bone density is different and their skulls were bigger. Researchers think that we may have come from the same trunk, but the branches went in opposite directions, similar to the huge humanoid bipeds that roamed the planet during the same time frame. Neandertals resembled early humans but were quite different. Some scientists think that our ancestors fought with them and eventually "wiped them out" because they could not concieve of projectile weapons. While it's theorized that early humans may have interbred with Neandertals, they are not thought to be "early us". http://makeashorterlink.com/?M23E6259 http://www.becominghuman.org/
From: Europa | Registered: Jun 2001
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nonsuch
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posted 01 May 2002 09:23 PM
Sorry about the comb typo. I've fixed it.I have seen some forensic reconstruction and they're usually pretty good, though accuracy does depend on how much of the skull is available. They're more accurate with an older subject, since the bones are harder. In a specimen this young, a lot of cartilege has been lost. Colouring is mostly guess-work: if some hair has been preserved, it gives a clue to pigmentation. Skin texture and eye-colour are entirely done by extrapolation. The fact that H sapiens didn't descend from Neanderthal man isn't all that significant: the broken branches also came from the same tree. It's kind of funny that Neanderthal had a bigger brain (probably) than any of the successful candidates. But it's not really significant, since brain-pan size and brain mass vary hugely in modern humans, with little or no corelation to intelligence. There was a beautiful sf story about a Neanderthal child brought into the future and sent back again (the nurse went, too). It was made into an excellent a tv drama (Outer Limits?). Memory fails on details. The point i'm groping for is that the child was a LOT uglier than this one, and i found it more believable. I wonder if that's because we generally prefer to think of them as uglier than us. Also a wonderful (and probably unfindable) novel by (?)William Golding called 'The Inheritors'. [ May 01, 2002: Message edited by: nonesuch ] [ May 01, 2002: Message edited by: nonesuch ]
From: coming and going | Registered: Sep 2001
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Michelle
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posted 02 May 2002 09:31 AM
Not only that, but I'll bet he probably wasn't pale or sickly-thin either, because he was a carpenter and was probably quite built. He was extremely charismatic, so was probably a lot more striking-looking. And yes, I would be willing to bet that he had a more middle-eastern complexion and hair colouring than the blond, blue-eyed cherub colouring that so many western versions of him seem to portray.I was reading a book by Robertson Davies where one of the characters was a university researcher whose big thing was to correlate physical body type to personality traits, and there was a neat idea there. If, as we believe, Jesus was a perfect man on earth, and you accept the idea that personality traits and physical types are correlated (not sure I do, but anyhow), then Jesus would likely have been a mesomorph (strong, muscular body) with handsome, or at least striking, looks. After all, if he was perfect, and the body correlates to the personality or spirit, then his body would likely have been pretty close to perfect too.
From: I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell. | Registered: May 2001
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'lance
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Babbler # 1064
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posted 02 May 2002 04:58 PM
That's the guy who turned your perfectly good water into mediocre wine? That's the guy who held the unauthorized picnic for 5000 in your backyard? That's the guy who sent your herd of pigs hurtling over a cliff? We've been after him a while. Supposedly lives in a cave. Every time we go, the stone's been rolled away, and nobody's there.
From: that enchanted place on the top of the Forest | Registered: Jul 2001
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