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Snuckles
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posted 10 January 2005 05:30 AM      Profile for Snuckles   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
By persuading the Dover, Pa., school board to teach creationism, Christian zealots have provoked a showdown over the status of not just evolutionary theory, but science itself.

By Michelle Goldberg

Jan. 10, 2005 | DOVER, Pa. -- It was an ordinary springtime school board meeting in the bedroom community of Dover, Pa. The high school needed new biology textbooks, and the science department had recommended Kenneth Miller and Joseph Levine's "Biology." "It was a fantastic text," said Carol "Casey" Brown, 57, a self-described Goldwater Republican and the board's senior member. "It just followed our curriculum so beautifully."

But Bill Buckingham, a new board member who'd recently become chair of the curriculum committee, had an objection. "Biology," he said, was "laced with Darwinism." He wanted a book that balanced theories of evolution with Christian creationism, and he was willing to turn his town into a cultural battlefield to get it.

"This country wasn't founded on Muslim beliefs or evolution," Buckingham, a stocky, gray-haired man who wears a red, white and blue crucifix pin on his lapel, said at the meeting. "This country was founded on Christianity, and our students should be taught as such."


Read it here.

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verbatim
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posted 10 January 2005 06:54 AM      Profile for verbatim   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Man, that is depressing... What the hell is happening to the world?
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Michelle
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posted 10 January 2005 08:21 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good GOD.

As was suggested by, I believe Magoo, in another thread - self-respecting university science programs in the US should simply stop accepting students from creationist school districts. Who the hell wants the product of one of these insano delusional school systems as their doctor, or designing bridges and airplanes?


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Suzette
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posted 10 January 2005 08:42 AM      Profile for Suzette     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As I understand it, the country was also founded on the slaughter of Indigenous people and slavery... so naturally that'll be in the syllabus, too, right?

*sigh* And this is the country the world follows.


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Bobolink
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posted 10 January 2005 09:34 AM      Profile for Bobolink   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Scientific American has a good online artricle on dealing with creationism:
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000D4FEC-7D5B-1D07-8E49809EC588EEDF&pageNumber=1&catID=2

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Mr. Magoo
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posted 10 January 2005 10:40 AM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
But it's loaded with facts and logic.

How can that ever hope to go up against people's irrational faith?


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Snuckles
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posted 10 January 2005 07:13 PM      Profile for Snuckles   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
Good GOD.

As was suggested by, I believe Magoo, in another thread - self-respecting university science programs in the US should simply stop accepting students from creationist school districts. Who the hell wants the product of one of these insano delusional school systems as their doctor, or designing bridges and airplanes?


Perhaps a university could mandate that kids from these school districts be required to take a remedial biology course before being admitted into a biology degree program.

I don't think it's fair to punish students for the stupidity of their school board trustees. Afterall, most school kids aren't old enough to vote in school board elections, and have very little say in what they are taught.


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Reality. Bites.
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posted 10 January 2005 07:59 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For that matter, parents who think this is nonsense may have reasons they are unable to move to another area.
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ShyViolet
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posted 11 January 2005 12:18 AM      Profile for ShyViolet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
changed my mind.... just ignore this!

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