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Anchoress
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posted 13 May 2005 04:09 AM

Did anybody else see a documentary of this experiment in High School? I'd almost forgotten about it. Going through the 'slides' of the experiment made me wonder what happened to the participants; it sounds like something that could have done lasting damage.

Considering the fact that an experiment like this would never fly nowadays, it's disheartening to realise that - though we're now too 'humane' to subject willing participants to such an experiment - we seem to have been unable to apply the lessons learnt in Stanford to the treatment of real prisoners.

The Stanford Prison Experiment

BTW I'm not suggesting that it's right or acceptable to mistreat test subjects.

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Agent 204
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posted 13 May 2005 07:54 AM

I've never seen a documentary about it, but I've read accounts of it. Fascinating.

It's unfortunate that most psych experiments that could actually tell us something useful would not get by an ethics committee these days. Not that most of them should pass; there's a good reason for those restraints (especially when we see the way the Stanford experiment went).

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ShyViolet
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posted 19 May 2005 01:47 AM

we watched a video about it in my intro psychology class last term. the part that i remember mest was the beginning scene. it showed all the prisoners lined up and they were chanting "prisoner 819 did a bad thing" over and over again. it really scared me...

just the dehumanization and the way they broke their spirits... how horrible!

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posted 19 May 2005 02:45 AM

The pschologist who conducted that experiment, Zimbardo, wrote my univeristy psych tesxtbook. I think it was pretty much the standard text in a lot of places.

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posted 19 May 2005 03:01 AM

Victor Frankel help me to see the resilience of the human spirit.

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Raos
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posted 19 May 2005 03:53 AM

I'd never heard of this before. That was disturbing and frightening. Personally, I'm surprised it took them that long to end the experiment.

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thwap
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posted 19 May 2005 08:22 AM

Cool! It's online! Have you guys heard about the "electroshock as teaching tool" experiment?

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Agent 204
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posted 19 May 2005 08:25 AM

thwap: did you mean the Milgram Experiment?

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thwap
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posted 19 May 2005 12:46 PM

Yeah that's the one.

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forum observer
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posted 20 May 2005 01:54 AM

I am a little confused here about a thread that was resurrected and then parts of it are missing?

Something about a helicopter and the My Lai incident? Where did it go? I have something to add.

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posted 20 May 2005 02:07 AM

Was it this one: Chronicles of the American Fascist Revolution

The only babble-related google return for 'My Lai' and 'Helicopters'

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Agent 204
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posted 20 May 2005 07:24 AM

Actually it's in the Milgram thread I linked to above.

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forum observer
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posted 20 May 2005 12:53 PM

okay! Was picture of massacre offensive?

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posted 20 May 2005 03:25 PM

Forum Observer, threads aren't 'moved to archive', they just move out of active topics when people lose interest in them. Linking to an old thread as Agent 204 did doesn't do anything to it, it just provides people a way of accessing it easily. You should put your post about the Milgram Experiment in that thread, not the one about the Stanford Experiment.

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forum observer
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posted 20 May 2005 05:31 PM

So, why is the thread not on the main page after I posted to it?

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posted 20 May 2005 05:33 PM

It is. It just dropped about 10 or so threads from the top quite quickly because the TAT is quite active today. But it's there.

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forum observer
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posted 20 May 2005 05:51 PM

thanks for realization of the search function.

Now what is TAT?

And for those who want to reference the article I have just posted I am trying Livejournal to see how it does.

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Agent 204
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posted 20 May 2005 05:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by forum observer:

Now what is TAT?

Today's Active Topics.

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forum observer
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posted 20 May 2005 05:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Agent 204:

Today's Active Topics.

Ah! thank you

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