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josh
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posted 10 March 2003 01:13 PM

This piece was posted on a thread some six months ago.

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0913-03.htm

To my mind, the events since then has only strengthened its thesis. The Bushites are using the memory of 9/11 not only to justify war against Iraq, but to chill dissent. "Oppose the war and you are desecrating the memory of 9/11, or are not in favour of doing everything possible to prevent another one."

While I'm wary of Bushite/Nazi comparisons, this one fits like a glove.

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Mr. Magoo
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posted 10 March 2003 02:11 PM

There's no doubt that Bush benefits from the fact that 9/11 happened... but then again the religious right benefits from AIDS (helps sell the chastity line), poverty activists (briefly) benefitted from Kimberly Rogers (until it was shown that she killed herself), etc. It's not really different, except in the scale of the consequences.

There's also plenty of laughable blather about how George did it rather than just enjoying the benefits. Him, or the Mossad, but I've also seen references to the Bilderbergs, and recently the Freemasons. But how, you ask? Controlled demolition from the inside, remote controlled airplanes, the CIA kidnapping flight attendants, forcing them to call home to establish "the official truth" before being killed, and as-yet-unseen particle beam weaponry are the big theories. Pretty elaborate plan for someone who couldn't draw a chicken by tracing his hand.

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Ron Webb
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posted 10 March 2003 02:26 PM

Maybe I need to adjust my tin foil cap, josh, but the implication of this article -- that Bush himself authorized the 9/11 attacks -- strikes me as plain ludicrous. Bush may be a lot of things, but he's no traitor.

There are plenty of valid reasons to oppose Dubya. My advice is to stick to them, and don't diminish your own credibility by propagating wild unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.

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josh
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posted 10 March 2003 02:52 PM

Conspiracy theories aside, the Reichstag fire was blamed on some deranged communist. Whether he did it or not seems immaterial to the point I'm making. That being, that in both instances newly-installed leaders, of questionable democratic validity, exploited the incidents to consolidate power and to advance an agenda which could not have been advanced absent the events in question.

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Mr. Magoo
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posted 10 March 2003 03:00 PM

You're quite correct Josh; nobody's done better off 9/11 than GWB. One of the tragedies of 9/11 is that it may end up writing GWB into the history books as a "leader".

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jeff house
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posted 10 March 2003 09:45 PM

Yes, Bush has used 9-11 to push his agenda. No, there is no good reason to think Bush had anything to do with it. But I still think Bush doesn't want 9-11 to be investigated impartially, because the paper trial would show he was alseep at the switch, and Ashcroft was trying to put robes on statues rather than deal with the threat ot the country and its citizens.

In my opinion, by worrying about Iraq rather than Al Quaeda, they are still on the wrong track.

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John Collins
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posted 11 March 2003 12:14 AM

Interesting -- this relates closely to the article by Norman Mailer that I just posted, here. Needless to say, the notion that Bush (or even a whacko like Rumsfeld) was directly involved in the plotting of the WTC attack is pretty much over the top. That he has used it to further an existing agenda is, as Spiro Agnew would say, nolo contendre.

[Edited to add link.]

[ 11 March 2003: Message edited by: John Collins ]

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Yarrow
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posted 14 March 2003 02:24 AM

Direct involvement sure, that might be way off. I was surprised he was even able to read the story about the goat while the attacks were happening. Good job W! But most theories I have read are no farther from the truth than the official conspiracy theory about the attacks. The New American Century got its Pearl Harbour and Reichstag Fire. The notion that Fascism is the result? To not recognize that, well its scarier than folk suggesting tinfoil hats to protect you from the depleted uranium dust storms that are coming. Duct and cover!

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