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Amy
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posted 25 February 2005 02:08 AM      Profile for Amy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Did anyone else catch this? Where Old Ships Go to Die

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Where do the great ships go to die? When these behemoths are no longer fit to sail safely on the seas, they're dismantled piece by piece and sold for scrap.

Most end up in third world countries, where thousand of workers risk their lives for mere pennies a day dismantling the world's ships, including Canada's. It's some of the most dangerous work in the world, done in the name of profit for shipping companies, where it's cheaper than a certified facility in our own backyard.



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Hawkins
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posted 25 February 2005 02:34 AM      Profile for Hawkins     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I only caught glismpses of it (I was sharing the TV with my roommate, and I think we were watching The Master of Disguise or something silly).

But the images from India, they were kind of scary (not unexpected mind you). I think every time, even though I should know better, the images of the third world shock and appall me. They did so to my roommate as well - I think the comment was "what the fuck, they still do that?" Not that he is nieve either, just I think the same sentiment of being shocked by the images.

I do not understand why principles have to be thrown to the side for "economics" (though I guess those are principles as well). It infuriates me that they allow the sale of toxic material to be dealt with by the poor. We have hardly advanced out of the 19th century industrial revolution, it merely got shifted. And most canadians do live in the countryside mansions of England, isolated from the horrendousness of pollutive industrial work (though we manage just fine to pollute our own stuff somehow).

Though I guess the other truth is- the need steel in Asia.


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TemporalHominid
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posted 27 February 2005 02:06 PM      Profile for TemporalHominid   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Amy:
Did anyone else catch this? Where Old Ships Go to Die


great journalism

the implications (environmentally and ethically) of waste disposal in terms of West vs East, North vs South, rich vs poor, are alarming. The loopholes are annoying. I wonder how often PM Martin's shipping company utilised these loopholes?


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Papal Bull
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posted 27 February 2005 02:25 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The absolute lack of any ethics is what bothered me the most. And to think, our moralistic leader probably (I meant to say obviously) has millions in the bank marred with the blood of these people.
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beluga2
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posted 28 February 2005 01:49 AM      Profile for beluga2     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Missed it. Sounds like a good show, though.

I guess this is what the economists like to describe with the tidy clinical term "externalities". Which is just a fancy way of saying, once we use it up, it's Somebody Else's Problem.

And it's so utterly pervasive. Don't most of our dead computers end up dumped in China, where peasants strip them down and get exposed to all manner of toxic substances? We're such fucking pigs, aren't we?

I believe this is the point where some laissez-faire advocate jumps in and tells us how the Invisible Hand will magically set all to rights.


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radiorahim
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posted 28 February 2005 09:18 PM      Profile for radiorahim     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I believe this is the point where some laissez-faire advocate jumps in and tells us how the Invisible Hand will magically set all to rights

Or they'll start talking about the thousands of jobs that have been created for poor third world workers and how leftie types would leave them all in poverty.


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