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pan
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posted 20 June 2003 04:22 PM      Profile for pan     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just gaduated from highschool, and though i'm not university-bound, i'm a booknerd and i think i'll drop in on few courses at the local ivory tower to supplement my own reading -- i mean, it's free if you don't register, so why not? I'm planning on checking out a few english/writing courses, if only to see if they confirm my "good writing cannot be taught' bias. I'm also tempted to check out some basic physics and chem, but although i have a strong math and science basis, i'm really only at the "ooh, gee whiz!" stage. I'm pretty sure i've done the equivalent of phil101 myself and...

Blather, blather, anyways: Does anyone have any suggestions for courses they absolutely loved? I know it all depends on the teacher, but if you could frog-march every naive young thing into the class of your choice, what would it be?


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Lima Bean
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posted 20 June 2003 05:07 PM      Profile for Lima Bean   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The courses I enjoyed the most were the small, upper year english classes based primarily on discussion and very little on lectures. Courses like this would be difficult to sit in on without being noticed. Some profs might not mind you sitting in, but probably most would tell you that you've got to go.

Bigger classes, like Psych 104 (first year) and some linguistics classes and stuff like that were probably of a good enough size that you could sit in everyday of the term and never be noticed. They were also variably interesting; some days were better than others. Some days were dreadful.

My advice would be to get the calendar for the uni. and look for the classes that have a couple of sessions of the same thing offered, as they're likeliest to be big, I'd assume. You could also do it much more randomly and just sit in a big lecture hall and wait to see what you get to learn that day. Or, of course, take your chances sneaking into whichever ones you think have the most interesting names.

Might be kinda fun!


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Cougyr
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posted 20 June 2003 05:24 PM      Profile for Cougyr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I always prefered the night courses. They tended to be populated by older students who wanted to be there; people who had to pay their own way and wanted to learn.

My favourite courses?
A review of the great athiests; taught by a Jesuit.
Criminology; taught by a policeman.
Statistics; taught by a mathemtician.
Abnormal psychology; taught by a practising clinition.

Notice that none of these were "teachers". All were enthusiastic about their subjects. You find out about these guys by enrolling in a University and spending a couple of years taking courses and qualifying for the better courses. You won't get very far by auditing.


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DrConway
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posted 20 June 2003 08:25 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ironically enough, math courses I take, if they're taught by instructors or professors who aren't bound up in the "I'm a pedantic snot and I will teach in the style of an incomprehensible textbook" method, it can be quite enjoyable seeing the applications of what you're taught. Especially when it "clicks" and you actually start being able to see the world in terms of calculus. You look at a mountain and you think of integrating its volume with tiny incremental slabs.

The classes I enjoy are taught by people who are enthusiastic about their subject and who don't have a totally wrongheaded idea about how their exams appear to students.


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Timebandit
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posted 21 June 2003 01:49 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My favourite classes were always "directed study" classes, where I would corner a prof, tell them that I wanted to study a particular thing, and then we'd create a course schedule to explore it, sometimes with only me in the class and sometimes with a couple of other students. I've done it in both theatre and in film studies. I've never been turned down when asking for one -- it's very flattering to be approached as the fount of all knowledge on a particular subject.

Of course, you have to be an admitted student to do this. And you have to pay for the class. But well worth it, in my opinion.

[ 21 June 2003: Message edited by: Zoot Capri ]


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Willowdale Wizard
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posted 21 June 2003 03:07 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Does anyone have any suggestions for courses they absolutely loved? I know it all depends on the teacher

not really. i mean, it depends on the teacher,

but a group dynamic needs to evolve in a class. it can't be just the professor talking to you, and the 20 of you sitting there in a seminar room.

i just finished 5 1/2 courses at ryerson in toronto, and silly as it sounds, the course where i met the most people began with an ice-breaking exercise,

we went around the room and the first person said what they'd been doing the last few years, and "one extrordinary experience" -- eating eyeball juice from a moose, riding the trans-siberian, etc., and each person thereafter had to say their piece, then repeat everyone's name and e.experience.

corny, but it worked.


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skdadl
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posted 21 June 2003 04:22 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
pan, a lot of years ago, and in the first place purely by coincidence, I ended up doing an evening extension course called "The Zen/Tao of Physics" at a time when I found myself suddenly heart-broken and wandering (lost a friend to suicide).

The teacher was a real physicist at U of T. They would never have let him teach such a course for normal credit, of course -- but if you root about in science departments, you will find guys like him, with special insight. He was magical -- courses like that, for lay people, that help us to catch up on what science knows, which is often quite beautiful -- those are magic. See if you can find such a course.

I am m'self a classically trained student of literature. I loved sitting through rigorous lectures as an undergrad, and I love giving lectures. A lecturer who loves what she's talking about is not a thing to sniff at, especially when you're just getting your toes wet.

Even if you don't find the inspired teacher, though -- you'll get some good book lists. After high school, remember: you must take charge of your own education. Somewhere during undergrad years, everybody is supposed to figure that out: Hey! It's me! I'm on my own now!!!

Unfortunately, few acknowledge that, so getting the piece of paper still helps.


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scrabble
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posted 23 June 2003 01:18 PM      Profile for scrabble     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Forget about your genius, your talents, and the talents of everyone else. Keep reminding yourself that literature is one of the saddest roads that leads to everything.
-- André Breton, Secrets of the Magical Surrealist Art

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Puetski Murder
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posted 23 June 2003 02:20 PM      Profile for Puetski Murder     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I'm planning on checking out a few english/writing courses, if only to see if they confirm my "good writing cannot be taught' bias. I'm also tempted to check out some basic physics and chem, but although i have a strong math and science basis, i'm really only at the "ooh, gee whiz!" stage. I'm pretty sure i've done the equivalent of phil101 myself and...

Based purely on this paragraph, since I know nothing about you, I would suggest you keep a more open mind than this.

The best thing that university has taught me is that I knew next to nothing coming out of high school despite being a voracious reader with a ridiculously high average who devoured every single tidbit of learnin'.

I didn't find this out in lectures though. I found out in discussions during tutorials, study groups and office hours with my teaching assistants and professors. I met some of the most brilliant people I've ever encountered who made me realize that although precocious, I had a lot to learn still.

Whatever you think you know, it isn't anything compared to what an enthusiastic learned expert can teach you.

So whatever you decide to immerse yourself in, just remember to throw your biases out the window because they really hold you back more than anything.

I've heard really amazing things about the Learning Annex. Anyone care to confirm or deny?


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ronb
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posted 23 June 2003 02:22 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anthropology 101 was a real mind-expander for me. Especially the cultural component, but the physical was fascinating too...
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paxamillion
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posted 23 June 2003 02:33 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What about the Free U of T?
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animal
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posted 23 June 2003 02:33 PM      Profile for animal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If you like science, Organic Chemistry is really fun. You get to play with models and visualize molecules and chemical reactions in 3D. Very cool! The labs were fun too, but also disgusting and stinky and full of dangerous chemicals, but you wouldn't have to worry about that.

I also recommend Canadian history, Political Science, and Economics.


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