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Topic: Fusion of black and Gaelic culture
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skdadl
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posted 13 June 2005 05:07 PM
Not an expert on this, but it has been my understanding that there were a number of waves of immigration to the American South and the Appalachians from both Northern Ireland (the Scots Irish) and Scotland (all of the Western Isles and Highlands, and then the Lowlands), depending on the period and who had an interest in establishing New World colonies (or expelling poor and/or rebellious Highlanders). I think that the Ulster Scots Irish (Scots Protestants transplanted back to Ireland in the early C17 by James I) were the first major wave to go to the southern states, and were the more likely aristos/slave owners (although many Irish Catholics were as well -- read your Gone with the Wind). The Highlanders and Islanders would have been driven out much later, after Culloden (1746), and the Lowlanders not mainly until the C19. None the less, these are ethnically the same people (well, the Lowlanders aren't, but they're very late emigrants), most of them originally Irish (the Scots arrived in Scotland from Ireland and overwhelmed the Picts, ca the C8). And certainly the ones who were first encouraged to emigrate to the New World colonies in the C17 were the enthusiastic Protestant converts, given the Crown's continuing anxiety about Catholic plots everywhere. I suppose what I am wishing to note is that there would have been a dominant dissenting, vaguely Presbyterian culture into which later, often slightly different immigrant cultures would have fed until well into the C19, all the time melding as well with the by-then indigenous black culture of the mountains and the South. Given that we are talking about close to three centuries of immigration and history, I suspect that the cultural history that remains to be written is huge and most complex. Charlie Mingus's name: I've thought about that before. The Scots' pronunciation of "Menzies" is something like "Meng-ges." Here is a site that describes the survival in Cape Breton of the Presbyterian tradition of "precenting."
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jeff house
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posted 13 June 2005 05:09 PM
That is interesting, and no doubt, true. I doubt if "fusion" is the right word, though; more likely, black music was informed and influenced by the way in which their churches organized worship. And where the churches were Scottish-Calvinist, so were ther influences.The PBS series on jazz, directed by Ken Burns, argued that jazz was an invention of black musicians who had studied European classical music and were (often) employed in New Orleans integrated orchestras. According to Burns, it was only in 1896, when segregation became lawful in Louisiana, (Plessy v. Ferguson) that jazz came to be seen as "black only".
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