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Snuckles
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posted 25 January 2006 07:24 AM      Profile for Snuckles   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Educators in California have unleashed debate by revising textbooks.

By Scott Baldauf

NEW DELHI In the halls of Sacramento, a special commission is rewriting Indian history: debating whether Aryan invaders conquered the subcontinent, whether Brahman priests had more rights than untouchables, and even whether ancient Indians ate beef.

That this seemingly arcane Indian debate has spilled over into California's board of education is a sign of the growing political muscle of Indian immigrants and the rising American interest in Asia.

The foes - who include established historians and Hindu nationalist revisionists - are familiar to each other in India. But America may increasingly become their new battlefield as other US states follow California in rewriting their own textbooks to bone up on Asian history.

At stake, say scholars who include some of the most elite historians on India, may be a truthful picture of one of the world's emerging powers - one arrived at by academic standards of proof rather than assertions of national or religious pride.

"Some of the groups involved here are not qualified to write textbooks, they do not draw lines between myth and history," says Anu Mandavilli, an Indian doctoral candidate at the University of Southern California, and activist against the Hindu right. Speaking of one of the groups, the Vedic Foundation in Austin, Texas, she adds, "On their website, they claim that Hindu civilization started 111.5 trillion years ago. That makes Hinduism billions of years older than the Big Bang." (The assertion has since been pulled from the site.)


Read it here.


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skdadl
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posted 25 January 2006 10:51 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hmmn. Interesting problem. But then, writing a history text that includes a history of India for American students in grade six is itself always going to be a problem. So much is going to be oversimplified, almost inevitably.

Some things, like current scholarly speculation about the age of earlier cultures or the times of migrations/invasions, are more easy to report, or should be. But others - how to explain a caste system, eg, or a religion - are always going to be highly interpretative. The scholars should be trusted to give direction to that interpretation, but they will not be without their own ethnocentric lenses.


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maestro
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posted 25 January 2006 03:06 PM      Profile for maestro     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[slight thread drift]

In the wonderful book, "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman", Richard Feynman describes his experience in helping choose California textbooks.

He received one book which had covers, but the pages were empty. He called the person who was in charge and asked them what was up.

He was told the publisher didn't have time to get the book ready for the evaluation, so they just sent it out without content.

He was told not to worry about it, just give it a medium evaluation mark and everyone would be happy.

[/slight thread drift]

I don't know if it's possible to write a history text that is acceptable to everyone, unless it's about a history that has nothing to do with those who read it.

History is one of those things everyone has a stake in...

edited for the sake of editing

[ 25 January 2006: Message edited by: maestro ]


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The Evil Twin
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posted 25 January 2006 06:05 PM      Profile for The Evil Twin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
During the years of the far-right BJP's rule from 1998-2004, this was a huge issue in India. The BJP and its far-right allies in the Shiv Sena (whose leader Thackeray once admired Hitler), VHP (which burned alive the Australian missionary Graham Staines) and the paramilitary RSS wanted to re-write India's history texts to conform to their far-right views. As the linked-article in the first post notes, they wanted to minimize the contribution of Moslems to India's civilization and downplay the oppressive nature of India's apartheid style caste system. Far more importantly, they wanted to disprove the idea that the Hindu upper castes themselves were Aryan invaders. Instead, they put forward the idea that all Hindus were indigenous to India, an idea with no historical or anthropological merit.
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