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RevolutionPlease
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posted 14 July 2008 04:08 PM
Thank you so much Brendan Stone for this link.Margaret Parsons This discussion needs a u-turn. Turns out Canada is using this Israel-Palestine as a smokeshow. And it makes me even more pissed at the NDP but I can understand that they know the real truth is not being reported in Canada. The woman in the interview was part of the International co-ordinating committee. She saw no hatefest. Hedy Fry, Jean Augustine and Irwin Cotler saw no reason to leave the conference and Hedy Fry was Canada's signatory to the agreement. Want to know what Canada's 1 objection was? That the trans-atlantic slave trade was a crime against humanity. Really? There's so much more. Objections to the words African holocaust or African genocide. Now Harpy's at the G8 and they want to make the #1 issue Zimbabwe for taking white land. It is an amazing interview and Margaret Parsons is no observer, look her up. People really interested in this need to listen to Brendan Stone's link. I can't thank you enough Brendan for an uplifting day.
From: Aurora | Registered: Oct 2007
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RevolutionPlease
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posted 15 July 2008 02:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Cueball: What was the nature of the Canadian objection to the classification of the slave trade as a crime against humanity?
It probably has to do with talk of reparations. Usually Canada has no problem admitting fault unless there's a cost involved. Here's actual declaration from Durban : ( 62 pg PDF) Link This is item 13 on page 6. quote: 13. We acknowledge that slavery and the slave trade, including the transatlantic slave trade, were appalling tragedies in the history of humanity not only because of their abhorrent barbarism but also in terms of their magnitude, organized nature and especially their negation of the essence of the victims, and further acknowledge that slavery and the slave trade are a crime against humanity and should always have been so, especially the transatlantic slave trade and are among the major sources and manifestations of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance, and that Africans and people of African descent, Asians and people of Asian descent and indigenous peoples were victims of these acts and continue to be victims of their consequences;
I'm taking some time to read the document. [ 15 July 2008: Message edited by: RevolutionPlease ]
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RevolutionPlease
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posted 15 July 2008 03:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Stockholm: What's it to Canada? We never had slavery here so we wouldn't anyone a cent. If there were any reparations it would all be paid by the US, Britain, France and many Arab countries (most of the actual slave traders and profiteers were Arabs). Canada would get off scot-free!
I may not be well enough read but I thought Canada had a role in it. It may also have to do with the inclusion of Asians and indigenous people as well. I'm thinking the railroad. And the real profiteers were the white folk who inherited the fruits of their labour and still enjoy it today.
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reglafella
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posted 15 July 2008 04:02 PM
"Yes we have, a lot of it too."Wasn't it outlawed in the colony before this land became "Canada"? Or in other words, didn't it exist only when this land was an extension of England and France? It may have happened on this same soil we stand on, but not when we were self-governing.
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Cueball
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posted 16 July 2008 12:59 AM
No one seems to have come up with any sensible reason to not support a motion naming slavery as crime against humanity, other than the compensastion issue. So that seems to be the best bet, though, I think the likely insitgator of the movement to oppose to motion was the US, who no doubt have a clear responsibility here, and who would certainly have to pay a hefty sum if compensation became actionable in a legal sense.The motion seems to target the European colonial powers specifically. Possibly Spain and Portugal too... any idea how they voted? [ 16 July 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]
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