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Cueball
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posted 08 June 2005 03:31 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Justice exists in lawless land

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"As a means to prevent murder," says Clinton Bailey, a research affiliate at the Truman Institute of Hebrew University, "Bedouin society devised revenge to make it dangerous." Vengeance was made implacable and if the murderer has fled, revenge can be taken on any adult male kinsman.

Without a statute of limitations, revenge can be taken decades, even generations, later on members of the offender's clan.



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Hephaestion
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posted 08 June 2005 03:50 AM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
vendetta: n.

1. A feud between two families or clans that arises out of a slaying and is perpetuated by retaliatory acts of revenge; a blood feud.

2. A bitter, destructive feud.


Funny, I thought the concept was Italian, not Bedouin.

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Cueball
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posted 08 June 2005 04:04 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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INTO EACH LIFE, it is said, some rain must fall. Some people have bad horoscopes, others take tips on the stock market. McNamara created the TFX and the Edsel. Churches possess the real world. But Indians have been cursed above all other people in history. Indians have anthropologists.

Every summer when school is out a veritable stream of immigrants heads into Indian country. Indeed the Oregon Trail was never so heavily populated as are Route 66 and Highway 18 in the summer time. From every rock and cranny in the East they emerge, as if responding to some primeval fertility rite, and flock to the reservations.

"They" are the anthropologists. Social anthropologists, historical anthropologists, political anthropologists, economic anthropologists, all brands of the species, embark on the great summer adventure. For purposes of this discussion we shall refer only to the generic name, anthropologists. They are the most prominent members of the scholarly community that infests the land of the free, and in the summer time, the homes of the braves.

The origin of the anthropologist is a mystery hidden in the historical mists. Indians are certain that all societies of the Near East had anthropologists at one time because all those societies are now defunct.

Indians are equally certain that Columbus brought anthropologists on his ships when he came to the New World. How else could he have made so many wrong deductions about where he was?

While their historical precedent is uncertain, anthropologists can readily be identified on the reservations. Go into any crowd of people. Pick out a tall gaunt white man wearing Bermuda shorts, a World War II Army Air Force flying jacket, an Australian bush hat, tennis shoes, and packing a large knapsack incorrectly strapped on his back. He will invariably have a thin sexy wife with stringy hair, an IQ of 191, and a vocabulary in which even the prepositions have eleven syllables.

He usually has a camera, tape recorder, telescope, hoola hoop, and life jacket all hanging from his elongated frame. He rarely has a pen, pencil, chisel, stylus, stick, paint brush, or instrument to record his observations.

This creature is an anthropologist.


Vine Deloria jr. Author of

Custer Died for Your Sins.


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aRoused
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posted 08 June 2005 06:32 AM      Profile for aRoused     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I told a cultural anthropologist I wanted to go into archaeology, he said 'Ah, you'll be studying dead people who can't lie to you'.

DeLoria is lots of fun--did you know one of his...aunts, I think, *was* an anthropologist?


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swallow
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posted 08 June 2005 03:07 PM      Profile for swallow     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
An anthropologist was talking to one of his "informants" once. A shooting star appeared in the sky. "We have a story about making a wish on a falling star," the anthrolopogist said.

"Oh yes," said the informant. "We have folk tales too."

The anthropologist suddenly realized he had made an entire career reading deep meaning into "traditional" stories that no one took at all seriously.


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posted 08 June 2005 06:02 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Three questions:
1. What portion of the Israeli Arab population is Bedouin and what portion is Palestinian?
2. are all the Arab people's of the Middle East(Syrians, Iraqis, Lebanese etc.) descended from Bedouin tribesmen?
3. Why is Bedouin culture finished, due to infestation of anthropologists ? The way I see it, the anthropologists are helping to preserve Bedouin culture. It's the automobile and Israeli racism that's actually destroying it.
Have I misinterpreted something?

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Cueball
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posted 08 June 2005 08:22 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, there are a lot of questions there, but the reference to anthropologists, was a direct nod in the direction of Vine Deloria, and his book Custer Died for Your Sins: an Indian Manifesto.

If anything is killing Bedouin culture it is borders.


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Rufus Polson
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posted 08 June 2005 08:24 PM      Profile for Rufus Polson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestion:

Funny, I thought the concept was Italian, not Bedouin.

Ha! Check an Icelandic saga some time.


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siren
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posted 13 June 2005 02:33 AM      Profile for siren     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bah. This smug condemnation of anthropologists in nonsense.

How many times have you heard a racist say something like, "those ** don't understand law, culture, value human life like "we do" and on and on. Anthropologists put the lie to those assertions by detailing how law, justice, gender relations, spirituality, etc. function within an integrated society -- any and all functioning cultures.

If the Americans had some anthropologists to teach them about Iraq culture and history -- they wouldn't be putting their boots on the heads of men, barging into homes, searching women in full view of others, overreacting when gun fire is heard at a wedding, killing entire wedding parties because "who gets married in the desert?"etc.

Hell, they probably wouldn't have invaded Iraq if they knew anything about Iraqi culture.


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Cueball
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posted 13 June 2005 03:15 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Or allowing there police dogs over the threshold of Iraqi houses.
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