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skdadl
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posted 20 June 2004 08:50 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
solecism: offence against grammar or idiom, blunder in the manner of speaking or writing; piece of bad manners or incorrect behaviour


We used to have a thread like this, but it got very long, and besides I can't find it.

So bring your irritating mis-uses or just funny typos here.

I have two to start off, one a pronunciation oddity heard yesterday on CBC Radio One. A news reader referring to Maoist guerrillas somewhere called them MAY-O-ist guerrillas. !

Sara Mayo: you have raised your own private army? You have been holding out on us?

Second, a writer of a letter to the editor of today's NY Times refers to democratization as a "bottoms-up process."

skdadl still rolling on floor, holding tummy. Calling Tommy Paine ...


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 20 June 2004 02:42 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I once heard a contestant on Reach for the Top answer "Peking" to the question "Where is the Mayo Clinic?"
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skdadl
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posted 20 June 2004 02:47 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

How long ago, al-Q? Forgive the agism, but in my day, le tout Canada knew how to pronounce Mao. *mutter mutter*


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'lance
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posted 20 June 2004 02:55 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Forgive the agism, but in my day, le tout Canada knew how to pronounce Mao. *mutter mutter*

In my day too, skdadl... I heard that selfsame CBC newsreader and grumbled to myself.

Back in my Ottawa Valley "home," in the early 80s, I listened for lack of anything better to an Ottawa radio station called CHEZ-106 FM. (I only realized how bad it was when I got to Toronto and was able to hear some real music, but let that pass). They were always good for some Les Nessman-isms.

One time a DJ played some pop-reggae band, Third World or some such outfit, and afterward said "You know, I'm a big reggae fan. Been a reggae fan since Day One."

Thing was, he pronounced it with a soft G and accent on the last syllable, like "re-ZHAI." He wasn't joking, either.

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skdadl
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posted 20 June 2004 02:59 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ok ... now you gotta explain Les Nessman to me.

I detect a trap here ...


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posted 20 June 2004 03:02 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I know pop culture came to an end in 1968, skdadl, but...

Les Nessman was a geeky newshound-type character on the show WKRP in Cincinnati. For him, pop culture -- and a particularly white-bread version of it -- had come to an end in around 1961. You could tell because of his horn-rimmed glasses, white shirt with bow tie, etc.


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posted 20 June 2004 03:15 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I remember! I remember!
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'lance
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posted 20 June 2004 03:23 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Watching that show I could never imagined I'd end up with horn-rimmed glasses (of a sort). Or a bow tie -- albeit one I've only worn twice.
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beverly
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posted 20 June 2004 03:30 PM      Profile for beverly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interesting 'lance, but do you wear a band-aid? Useless trivia - Nessman wore a band-aid in every episode. My boss thinks he looks like Johnney Fever (Fever was wa----yyyy cuter) and does this dorky thing everytime he comes into my office. He sits down and says do you mind if I sit down. WKRP lives!!!

A Mayo-ist is someone who makes a big stink about sandwich spread and refuses to use anything but real mayonnaise.


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 20 June 2004 03:42 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:

How long ago, al-Q? Forgive the agism, but in my day, le tout Canada knew how to pronounce Mao. *mutter mutter*

It must have been around '72 or '73, and since Mao died in '76 I don't know what that student's excuse was.


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Ever hear a traffic advisor on the radio desccribe a "west bound accident on the 401"? The accident isn't going anywhere.

My personal peeve, the one that just makes me grit my teeth and miss whatever follows, is when anouncers mis-pronounce Tsawwassen (south of Vancouver) as Tawasin. These same people would never refer to Tsar Nicholas as a tar, or a tidal wave as a tunami. So, why convert the ts of Tsawwassen to a t?

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oops. ignore this.

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posted 20 June 2004 04:08 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cougyr! Encore!
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It stung my ears everytime through the Cup run when an announcer said Ig-nal-eee.
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'lance
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posted 20 June 2004 08:17 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
My personal peeve, the one that just makes me grit my teeth and miss whatever follows, is when anouncers mis-pronounce Tsawwassen (south of Vancouver) as Tawasin.

A few Vancouver pronunciations have shifted over the years. I'm thinking of my late father-in-law, who was born in Vancouver in 1925. When a local names ended in -ano, he would pronounce it as though ending in -yno, as "Kit-si-LIE-no," "Ca-pi-LIE-no," etc. (I say etc. even though those are the only two examples I can think of). He insisted that was how people said those words in his youth.

Come to think of it, I picked up this habit from him.

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It stung my ears everytime through the Cup run when an announcer said Ig-nal-eee.

When I was a kid, the legendary Foster Hewitt came out of retirement to do play-by-pley for the 1972 Canada-USSR hockey series. I don't remember this bit, but apparently he simply couldn't pronounce the name "Cournoyer."

An Aislin cartoon in a book I have (Hockey Night in Moscow, by Jack Ludwig) has Hewitt taking so long to stammer out an approximation of Cournoyer that the Soviets have grabbed the puck, shot and scored before he manages it.

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Stephen Gordon
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posted 20 June 2004 10:22 PM      Profile for Stephen Gordon        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And let us not forget "nucular."
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'lance
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posted 20 June 2004 10:31 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For some perverse reason, I watched bits of the 1992 Republican convention on TV.

(I don't know what I was thinking, all right? Geez).

Anyway, I frequently guffawed at the spectacle, but never so loudly as when George H.W. Bush (41) said he'd worked in the "oil bidness" in Texas.

If Fyvush Finkel had come on the stage and gone into some kind of gangsta rap, it would have been more convincing than George "Wild Connecticut Boy" Bush and his "oil bidness."


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posted 21 June 2004 02:03 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
An Aislin cartoon in a book I have (Hockey Night in Moscow, by Jack Ludwig) has Hewitt taking so long to stammer out an approximation of Cournoyer that the Soviets have grabbed the puck, shot and scored before he manages it.

I have that cartoon in a book about the '72 series.

You should have heard Foster Hewitt when Tsygankov got near the puck!

I just checked the DVD of the series. Hewitt pronounced Cournoyer's name in a different manner the first three times he tried, but he eventually settled on "Corn' - oi - yay".

Bill Hewitt used to say "Corn - why' - ay".


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posted 21 June 2004 02:43 AM      Profile for asterix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One memorable fact about Les Nessman was that when he once had to read a news report about golfer Chi-Chi Rodriguez, he pronounced the name as "Chai-Chai Rodrigwheeze".
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posted 21 June 2004 03:34 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think we already yakked about that here.

The funniest part about that bit was that Johnny Ferver butted in (shutting off the mics, etc. ) and said "Chi Chi Rogriguez" to Les, who continued, "Mr.....Rod'-wee-gwezz..."


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posted 21 June 2004 08:09 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wasn't Les Nessman also the one who called chihuahuas "chee-who-ah-who-ahs"?
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posted 21 June 2004 09:16 AM      Profile for swirrlygrrl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ah, WKRP. Classic show. Greatest line? "I swear to god, I thought turkeys could fly." And of course, Nessman's geekish bad pronounciation/ocassional incompetence was mimicried on NewsRadio by Matthew, for example when he mispronounced "Joey Buttafuco" (though we only saw him demonstrate that he had learned, in the aftermath, the correct pronounciation).

"Irregardless" probably isn't a solecism, but it cheeses me off when people use it.


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The turkey episode was a classic. In those days there was no PETA around to protest.
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