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skdadl
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posted 01 July 2003 08:45 AM
I remember Buddy Hackett. I thought he was cute. I've been looking around to see whether anyone started a thread elsewhere about Katharine Hepburn, and don't see one. Well, she was a great broad, obviously. Her performance in Philadelphia Story is a tour de force, of course, but I still have a special soft spot for Summertime, partly because I still fall for Rossano Brazzi, who, I think, died only last year. Seldom has anyone done ditzy self-consciousness as totally as Hepburn does in that movie. She never stops twitching! We also get to see her fall in a Venice canal. Oh -- Hepburn falling in the water also brings to mind African Queen. Wonderfully funny movie, two brilliant performances (Hepburn and Bogart), and conclusive evidence that John Huston was a sadist. [ 01 July 2003: Message edited by: skdadl ]
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Trisha
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posted 01 July 2003 10:33 AM
Katherine Hepburn, the first of the genuine feminists. A wonderful actress, even after getting an illness that made her shake all the time.CHANGED FOR CORRECT NAME, I had been viewing some information on a special award to Audrey Hepburn the same day. [ 02 July 2003: Message edited by: Trisha ]
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dianal who asked to be unregistered
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posted 01 July 2003 12:14 PM
Trisha..... Audrey....or Katherine?OMG I adored katherine hepburn. We had just watched On Golden Pond for the umpteenth time the other day 'you old poop' and I found myself getting all verklempt at her 'you are my knight in shining armour' bit. I have all the books written on her, plus HER book 'Me', that I had loaned around to my co workers when it first came out. I loved how she styled her hair, that she always wore pants and pullovers and cardigans, her amazing accent. That she was full of spunk, and fire and loved Spencer Tracy. I will always regret that I wasn't able to meet her in person.
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Michelle
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posted 01 July 2003 03:39 PM
Larry Flynt is impotent? Get out. Really?Learn something new every day. But you know, I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Larry Flynt, even though he is a nasty character. Wasn't he the one who put up a reward for anyone who could dig up any kind of sexual scandal on Republican politicians during the Lewinsky affair? I thought that was pretty cool. [ 01 July 2003: Message edited by: Michelle ]
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dianal who asked to be unregistered
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posted 01 July 2003 11:39 PM
quote: he seems OK to me
oh really? Read all this then tell me if you'd like him to marry your daughter and be a part of your family.... http://www.skk.uit.no/WW99/papers/Russell_Diana_E_H.pdf
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posted 02 July 2003 12:06 AM
This thread is seriously off track.I was amused to read in Buddy Hackett's obit that he had been invited by the Three Stooges to replace Curley Howard after his stroke. How the history of the entertainment industry could have been different if he hadn't turned them down. (They got Joe Besser instead who was a disaster)
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paxamillion
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posted 02 July 2003 01:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by dianal:
Given that I train the trainer in Harm Reduction, I doubt it. This topic was previously broached and discussed, in some depth, in another thread about shelter work and oppressive practices. I also do a pretty good 'curly' woowoowooo
My apologies. It's been the kind of morning where I made a tongue-in-cheek comment without the requisite smiley. I have adjusted my post as such above. Again, sorry.
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 02 July 2003 01:51 PM
Thanks to a penile implant and a pump, Flynt says he's nolonger impotent; he has sensation and can ejaculate. Today, he is engaged to his former nurse, Liz Berrios, 36, a soft-spoken woman who grew up Catholic in the San Gabriel Valley and formerly worked in UCLA's famous heart transplant unit. What does Larry Flynt have to do with people who've died recently? Dianal?
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al-Qa'bong
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posted 02 July 2003 02:39 PM
"Why I oughtta..."Someone here needs a poke in the eye or to be hit over the head with a big, soft hammer. We were having such a nice visit about the Three Stooges, and now we're drifting into a pornographer's sex life. n'yuk, n'yuk, n'yuk
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LittleDoucheCoupe
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posted 03 July 2003 10:13 AM
Best imitation of Katharine Hepburn has to be Martin Short: Here's Katharine Hepburn starting a car..."yi yi yi yi yi yi yi yi yi"...(accompanied by appropriate shaking gestures) Damn funny.
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Smith
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posted 05 July 2003 12:12 AM
quote: Substance users have very little capacity for emotional attachments. Sorry. They are so whacked or high or drunk.. emotions just aren't possible.
I can buy that sustaining tolerable relationships is almost impossible, and that it becomes extremely secondary to the need to get the drug of choice, but I believe emotions are entirely possible. And it's certainly possible for a non-addict to have feelings for an addict, even to sincerely believe he or she has connected with the addict. We have Al-Anon for a reason. quote:
What kind of man can say he connected to such a level with a junkie that she was the only woman he only ever truly loved?
Well, maybe he was in denial. Or maybe there's more to the story than we know. I agree that Hustler is some pretty disturbing shit, but lots of people fall deeply in love with other people who are emotionally unavailable in one way or another. I just don't see the connection here. [ 05 July 2003: Message edited by: Smith ]
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4t2
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posted 05 July 2003 12:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by Mycroft: Barry White is dead.
Wanted to add a word on this in the midst of the Larry Flynt debate. I actually did end up liking him after a while - I think the turning point was the use of "You're My First, My Last, My Everything" in Ally McBeal - it's turned into an unofficial law students anthem, believe it or not. Yikes. I even got around to liking "Just The Way You Are"...yeah, baby, drop that voice right down looooow. Of course there was also the "Love Unlimited" track by the Fun Lovin' Criminals a few years ago that paid tribute..."If Barry White saved your life, and got you back with your ex-wife, sing Barry White (Barry White), Barry White (Barry White), it's alright". Gone to the great lounge in the sky ;-)
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Tommy_Paine
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posted 05 July 2003 09:19 AM
Barry White's bass voice was something else. I was never much one for that genre of music, but that voice certainly drew me in. The thing about Hacket, to me, was not his never ending patter, but the few well chosen moments he chose to be silent. In the way an actor has "a face that reads", good and great comedians have "silences that read".
With that in mind, he would have made a great "Stooge".
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Tommy_Paine
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posted 05 July 2003 09:33 AM
In the missplaced Flynt debate, my take on him was that he was either born or had his sense of human decency surgically removed in youth.I've never liked "Hustler". While the pornographic "style" might have been born out of a reaction to the pretentious style standard set by Heffner in "Playboy" it always struck me as mysogynistic in intent. And, let's not forget either, the wonderful attempts by Flynt to humourize pedophelia by publishing "Chester the Molester", and the other cartoon content that, taken as a whole and sometimes singularly, is racist. But, if we find Flynt to be permanently stuck in that stage of early male adolescence where everything is sex without much regard to humanity, there is at least a kind of honesty about it. A far more oily personage is Bob Guicione, of "Penthouse" fame, who does what Flynt does, but tries to come off as a gentleman. Something Flynt never claimed to be. It's that consistancy of view point-- even if we don't like how it manifests itself in his publications-- that makes him such a bulldog against the hypocricy of the religious right and the "Family Values" Repubicans in the States.
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Courage
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posted 06 July 2003 12:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by dianal: Substance users have very little capacity for emotional attachments. Sorry. They are so whacked or high or drunk.. emotions just aren't possible.
Sure they are. They just aren't of the kind you are narrowly calling 'emotions'. Never met a junkie or other abuser who didn't have doubt, fear, anxiety, anger...Heck, they smile, they laugh, they cry, they feel slighted... There is a HUGE difference between a difficulty having what we deem normal emotional 'attachments' and having no emotions at all.
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dianal who asked to be unregistered
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posted 06 July 2003 01:50 AM
quote: Never met a junkie or other abuser who didn't have doubt, fear, anxiety, anger...Heck, they smile, they laugh, they cry, they feel slighted...
yes they do... and it's all related to drugs... where are they, who has them, when can I get some, etc. quote: There is a HUGE difference between a difficulty having what we deem normal emotional 'attachments' and having no emotions at all.
please define 'we' and 'normal'
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Sara Mayo
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posted 10 July 2003 10:32 AM
(This isn't eactly arts and culture, but I'm posting it here anyway.)Pioneering Canadian environmentalist, Gary Gallon, died last week. Environmental News Service: quote: Gallon entered the work force on the floor of the Vancouver Stock Exchange in the late 1960s. His days were spent writing investment outlines for natural resource extraction companies, while at night he helped to found the Society Promoting Environmental Conservation (SPEC), now one of the oldest environmental organizations in British Columbia. His early campaigns attempted to raise public awareness of the hazards of pesticides and the benefits of household recycling. He worked on oil spill prevention and the protection of wildlife from coal mining. "Canadian Geographic" quoted him as saying, "I've always been bothered by excess consumption and wanton destruction of habitat. Human ethics must allow space for other lifeforms."
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skdadl
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posted 17 July 2003 01:42 PM
Carol Shields has died, of breast cancer, at sixty-eight.There is a link to a surprisingly good obit (especially from a bibliographical point of view) on the Sympatico home page, for those of you who have that. I'll go looking for other links. Although I was disappointed in some of her later writing, I thought that the Stone Diaries was both beautiful and brilliant. Her last five or six years were obviously very hard, and yet she kept writing and publishing. She was a noble and talented woman.
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 12 September 2003 10:53 AM
Well, Best of Johnny Cash is in the CD tray. Don't quite know what to do for John Ritter though. Favourite Johnny quote: "I don't dance, I don't tell jokes, or wear my pants too tight like a lot of entertainers do, but I do know about a thousand songs."
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kuba walda
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posted 23 September 2003 12:40 PM
quote: Baby, if you've ever wondered, Wondered whatever became of me, I'm living on the air in Cincinnati, Cincinnati, WKRP. Got kind of tired packing and unpacking, Town to town, up and down the dial. Maybe you and me were never meant to be, But baby think of me once in awhile.
I'm at WKRP in Cincinnati...
I also have fond memories of WKRP. I especially like Les's "walls".
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Medea Callous
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posted 23 September 2003 03:54 PM
My fave les episode was when Les tried to say Karim Abdul-Jabbar and Chi-Chi Rodruiguez on the air... 'Chay-Chay-ROD-rig-way'
... 'CARE-'im AB-dool Jabber'
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Medea Callous
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posted 23 September 2003 04:35 PM
Oh, I forgot about my other fave episode (love the ones others have mentioned):When Johnny accidentally offers $10,000 as the prize for winning the 'recognise the songs' contest, so then they have to come up with a song series so complicated that no-one can possibly win it. Also the episode where Venus is introduced - where he tells Johnny off-air that his name is 'Venus Rising', but Johnny gets it wrong and so his name forever more is 'Venus Flytrap'.
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al-Qa'bong
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posted 23 September 2003 06:16 PM
quote: Confused. I have fond memories of WKRP.
Me too. I'm just sick of all these people dying. I liked when Venus called Mr. Carlson his dad at Venus' army deserter hearing. Bailey's "nice raft" comment to Mr. Carlson was a giggle.
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al-Qa'bong
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posted 26 September 2003 02:25 PM
Edward Said? Plimpton, too? This is getting to be a terrible month.As for Palmer, I was never a fan of his, nor of EL&P, but I've always liked this song: quote: He had white horses, and ladies by the score All dressed in satin, and waiting by the doorooh, what a lucky man he was, ooh, what a lucky man he was. White lace and feathers, they made up his bed A gold-covered mattress, on which he was laid He went to fight wars, for his country and his king For his honor and his glory, the people would sing A bullet had found him, his blood ran as he cried no money could save him, so he laid down and he died
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Sisyphus
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posted 26 September 2003 02:29 PM
Al-Q, ELP's Palmer was Carl Palmer. We're mourning Robert Palmer.Edited to add:
quote: We're mourning Robert Palmer.
...who is not the same person as the Robert Palmer who wrote Deep Blues. Oops. [ 26 September 2003: Message edited by: Sisyphus ]
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Jimmy Brogan
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posted 27 September 2003 09:29 PM
Donald O'Connor quote: Los Angeles — Entertainer Donald O'Connor, who combined comedy and acrobatics in the show-stopping “Make 'Em Laugh” number in the classic movie Singin' in the Rain, died Saturday. He was 78.Mr. O'Connor, who had been in declining health in recent years, died of heart failure, his daughter, Alicia O'Connor, said. It was in the 1950s that Mr. O'Connor made the films for which he was best known — a series of highly successful Francis the Talking Mule comedies and movie musicals that put his song and dance talents to good use. Songs in movie musicals are often touching or exciting, but Mr. O'Connor performed a rare feat with a number that were laugh-out-loud funny. The best, 1952's Singin' in the Rain, also starred Gene Kelly and Debbie Reynolds and took a satirical look at Hollywood during the transition from silent to sound pictures.
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Michelle
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posted 27 September 2003 10:36 PM
I heard two Robert Palmer songs in a row yesterday on a radio station while driving and I thought, isn't that weird, must be one of those special days where they play two hits for each requested singer (e.g. "twofer Tuesdays"). Then they back-announced after the song that Palmer had died. I was pretty bummed out by that. I really liked him. I liked it that one of the songs they played was one of the less overplayed songs by him.I was sure someone would mention it on babble. I had also heard about Edward Said. That really sucks. What is it with 54 year-olds kicking the bucket, anyhow? Robert Palmer and John Ritter. Really sucks. It's also strange in a weird way when people the same age as my parents are dying of stuff like heart attacks rather than accidents or overdoses.
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skdadl
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posted 28 September 2003 02:19 PM
Yes, O'Connor was great. Francis the Talking Mule ... gosh, that takes me back. (See? I've now got to an age where I'm saying things like Gosh, that takes me back. ) quote: I was just thinking about their tune, "Killer Diller Kittens" a couple of days ago.
Oddly enough, I think I can follow that chain of association, al-Q. [ 28 September 2003: Message edited by: skdadl ]
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Willowdale Wizard
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posted 29 September 2003 06:25 AM
althea gibson, first black player to win wimbledon and u.s. open, dies at 76login: babblers passwd: audrarules quote: Althea Gibson, born in a sharecropper's shack in Silver, S.C., on Aug. 25, 1927, was brought to New York by her parents when she was a few months old. By chance, the family moved into an apartment on a West 143rd Street block between Lenox and Seventh Avenues that was a designated play street. When the volunteers from the Police Athletic League closed the block to traffic and set up their recreation equipment, the spot they chose to mark off as a paddle tennis court was right in front of the Gibsons' front stoop.In 1950 she became the first black to compete in the United States nationals. She won 56 tournaments, including five Grand Slam singles titles — the United States nationals and Wimbledon twice, in 1957 and 1958, and the French championship in 1956.
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Jimmy Brogan
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posted 29 September 2003 09:58 PM
Kazan obit quote: He insisted years later that he bore no guilt as a result of what some saw as a betrayal. "There's a normal sadness about hurting people, but I'd rather hurt them a little than hurt myself a lot," he said.
quote: His friendship with (Arthur) Miller was never the same after his congressional testimony. Kazan talked with Miller before he testified, and Miller later wrote in his journal about a side of his friend that he had not seen before: "He would have sacrificed me as well."
What a puke. Good riddance.
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Willowdale Wizard
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posted 13 October 2003 11:29 AM
Carl Fontana and Neil Postman both passed away. Ironic that the Schwarzenegger election overshadowed the death of a media critic.Fontana: quote: One day when Fontana was a child, his father, Collie, had walked into the house and placed a box in front of his son. "What's that?" asked Carl. "It's what you're going to play," his father told him, opening up the trombone case. The Woody Herman band was playing at the Blue Room in New Orleans when its virtuoso trombone soloist Urbie Green had to return to New York for three weeks when his wife gave birth. A young local musician hired as a temporary replacement arrived in the band room. "Can I help you?" asked the tenor player Dick Hafer. "I'm here to replace Urbie Green," said Fontana. "You're here to replace Urbie Green?" repeated Hafer, as the band musicians roared with sardonic laughter. In performance an hour or so later, their jaws dropped as Fontana ripped off a series of agile and eloquent solos that instantly announced him as a challenger to the crown of Jay Jay Johnson, the trombonist who dominated the era. From then on, Fontana never looked back and no one has ever challenged his supremacy. His several disciples approached his speed and technical agility, but no one ever matched his sublime streams of improvisation.
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skdadl
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posted 22 October 2003 05:44 PM
Carolyn Heilbrun (1926-2003) died a couple of weeks ago, and I should have paid tribute to her before now.Here is her Wellesley College bio. I knew her through her essays in journals like the New York Review rather than through her books. She was both a beautiful writer and a nervy, brave, bodacious rabble-rousing feminist, 'way ahead of my generation in her open challenges to a macho academic establishment. It was always a pleasure to see her name on a table of contents. Ave atque vale.
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candle
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posted 27 October 2003 07:51 PM
June Carter Cash' daughter and Johnny Cash' stepdaughter Rosey Nix Adams died along with bluegrass fiddle player Jimmy Campbell died in a bus (which may have previously belonged to legend Bill Monroe) from carbon monoxide poisoning where apparently they were cooking heroin. Adams is also the half sister of Carlene Carter and stepsister of Roseanne Carter http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2003/10/2703.cfm When I first heard that Johnny Cash' stepdaughter died I assumed it was Carlene given the stench of death around her (two ex-boyfriends have died - one Francis Reidy III, a 21 year old she met in rehab and the other being Howie Epstein, bass player for Tom Petty). Carlene has also been arrested for possession of a stolen vehicle and heroin, writing bad checks, drunk driving (Reidy was killed when he walked drunk into a Jeep; Carter was driving back to the bar to get him drunk), and identity theft (she was phoning in Reidy's prescriptions after he died).
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