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Topic: Today we are at war with Eurasia
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Stargazer
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posted 05 September 2007 10:52 AM
Today we are at war with EurasiaWe were always at war with Eurasia. Forget Oceania. It never happened. Oceania has always been our ally. Eurasia is the devil. The devil is wearing a gas mask and carries a big book filled with words that speak of damnation, eternities in hell and death to infidels. Our leader says we are the infidels. Our leader says we have so many freedoms that everyone is jealous, especially those people in Eurasia. Our leader says that Eurasia is evil and filled with evil doers. Our leader says they all hate us and would strap a bomb on their body to blow us up soon as look at us. Our leader says don't think for yourself. Let me think for you. Our leader says the less knowledge we have, the better citizens we are. The less we know, the more we can be patriots. To be a patriot is not to question our leaders. To be a patriot we need to understand that buying into what is fundamentally bad for us, is really good for us. We are not to equate the furor of the religious right in our countries with the religious crazies in 'those' countries. We have to forget that God Hates Fags. We have to forget that our leader has a personal pipeline to a vindictive and mean God. We have to forget that big business is not our friend. We must embrace big business and treat them like they are equal citizens. Forget the fact they have no responsibilities to us, as we have to each other. In fact, our leader says to just forget a lot of things. Forgetting and being dumb are the new hallmarks of uber patriotism. The homeland must be protected at all times. Remember that our leaders love us, and are only thinking about us when they meet behind closed doors to discuss our fate as a nation, or as a world. We simpletons, the citizens, have we not elected the leaders to think and act for us? Do they not then have us as their number one priority? When in doubt, read the paper. Clearly our leaders, they love us. Those meetings behind closed doors with all the CEO's representing weapons manufacturers to Resource companies, well, they are closed meetings because what we don't know won't hurt us. And our leaders know their friend, the media, will help them cover all of their tracks and help keep the population uninvolved, uncaring or worse, impotent. When our leaders discuss biometric readings of kids in public school and up, we just need to understand it is for our own good. When our leaders compile lists of who cannot fly across this free land, we need to realize that some people just don't deserve to be free. I know, they are fighting for freedom. Don't worry about that small contradiction. Our leaders know what is best for us. When the time comes to bomb Eurasia, we can all watch it on our TV sets and feel comfort knowing that our leaders are killing the enemy there so they don't have to kill them here. Forget searching for your own answers. Forget all that will die - they are simply unintended consequences. Move along. Nothing to see here. Friendly fire is just that - friendly fire. It has nothing to do with death. The only casualties that count are, well, none. Better that we don't know and even better that we don't care. 24 hour coverage, non-stop, of shock and awe. Not death and destruction. Liberation! Don't speak to our leaders of death and destruction, because they only have Eurasia's best interests at heart. Those people, those fundamentalist freaks, they need to be liberated, their women set free. Their minds set free. Gilligan's Island, American Chopper, Funniest Home Videos - these are all things worth fighting for. If only one Eurasian gets a TV with uncensored sitcoms, we have won. Rejoice people of the Republic of Americas! Our leaders love us. Rejoice and remember to pay attention only to what is good for you. Never lose sight of our leader's goals and dreams for us, the population. For we are but puny and inconsequential when it comes to big ideas and securing our freedom. Bombs for sitcoms! Rejoice and praise the lord!
From: Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist. | Registered: Jun 2004
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N.Beltov
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posted 05 September 2007 12:52 PM
These days, Bolivians are being told by the corporate media in their country that democracy is white and dictatorship is government by those who have dark skin. They have elected a President that the old powers are antagonistic to and have their means of blocking this new, upstart government. In the same Orwellian vein, Idón Moisés Chivi Vargas gives a Bolivian twist to these corporate visions of fake democracy... quote: We live in a country where reality is one thing and what the media says is another .... In this context, born democrats are those with white skin; born dictators are the ones that have dark skin and that's why: Democracy is when the political minority govern; dictatorship is how the social majority govern. Democracy is the savage market where the only ones that are saved are those than can and those that have the ability to; dictatorship is the search of a society of equals. Democracy is beating Indians, mestizos, or progressive intellectuals with impunity; dictatorship is when the Indian, or the mestizo, or the progressive intellectual does not allow this to happen. Democracy is the failure of deliberative mechanisms to find the solution to a historic crisis; dictatorship is the success of these mechanisms. Democracy is the infamous sellout of the nation to transnationals; dictatorship is the recuperation of those resources for the nation. Democracy is being an accomplice to transnationals; dictatorship is to not be one. Democracy is being an accomplice to corrupt judges; dictatorship is justice for all. Democracy is protecting the privileges of the powerful; dictatorship is not doing this. Democracy is being the privileged owner of the state; dictatorship is when the state belongs to the entire nation Democracy is telling lies; dictatorship is telling the truth Democracy is the exacerbated racism of the white; dictatorship is the diversity of colors. Democracy is the media justification of racial violence; dictatorship is preserving social peace. This is because majestic democracy sustains itself on skin color, on the most simple, and at the same time most grotesque and perverse, racism.
Political Racism in Question
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Buddy Kat
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posted 13 September 2007 08:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stargazer:
When the time comes to bomb Eurasia, we can all watch it on our TV sets and feel comfort knowing that our leaders are killing the enemy there so they don't have to kill them here.
North America can only wish it will be an armchair war and cake walk...not this time...nope this time unlike Iraq ..Iran is waiting and ready. The US has tried everything it possibly can to egg Iran into a war with the latest thing being death squads in Iraq... Iran has been purchasing and reverse engineering all weapons it has got a hold off and there arsenal is quite impressive. What's more is they have been applying their technology to these weapons making them far more superior than they were. From MERV missles (multiple war head),cruise missles, radar stealthing too 200 mph torpedo's that will in fact wipe out the entire US 5th fleet. An example of Iran's ingenuity..How do you get a torpedo too zig zag undetected under water and be so precise at unheard of speed? Iran figures out a way to create an air bubble in front of the torpedo so it behaves like it's going thru the air..Totally ingenious!!! For pictures and videos of what Iran has too offer for video arm chair entertainment go here and look at the pics and videos: http://www.iranmilitaryforum.com/ The US has met it's match and Iran is waiting for them (US or Israel)to throw the first punch, they have been waiting for years...I hope Iran has a good TV network..because this will be a real shock and awe! As a supplier of weapons of mass destruction and war the US has enjoyed playing both ends against the middle..picking and choosing who wins by supplying both sides. What happens when a country applys it's own technology..technology the US does not possess?
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Buddy Kat
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posted 13 September 2007 10:10 AM
Iran did get a few of the russian torpedo missles ..but vastly improved (after reverse engineering them) the technology behind the air bubble making it even better as well as undetectable.Stargazer says "Our leader says don't think for yourself. Let me think for you. Our leader says the less knowledge we have, the better citizens we are." Yep a nation of blind simpletons being led by deaf and dumb leaders.
From: Saskatchewan | Registered: Sep 2006
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Cueball
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posted 02 October 2007 12:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stargazer: Thanks Michelle, because that's essentially was it was for me too. It's odd but we really are in a 1894 like world.Oh and the TV thing - that idea really hit home watching The Awful Truth when Michael Moore donated a bunch of TVs to Afghanistan. [ 05 September 2007: Message edited by: Stargazer ]
The last people to imagine that they are living in the world of 1984 are those living in it.
From: Out from under the bridge and out for a stroll | Registered: Dec 2003
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Slumberjack
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posted 02 October 2007 03:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by Buddy Kat: [QB]The US has met it's match and Iran is waiting for them (US or Israel)to throw the first punch, they have been waiting for years...I hope Iran has a good TV network..because this will be a real shock and awe![QB]
Iran may be able to inflict some damage and potentially disrupt the flow of Persian Gulf oil for awhile, but Iran is certainly no match whatsoever for a nation that spends upwards of half a trillion dollars annually in defense spending. While they may get lucky with a few strikes from unguided missles of the scud variety, the guided versions, both surface to surface, surface to sea, and surface to air, are extremely vunerable to electronic countermeasures, of which the US will widely employ, while earnestly locating the source of the guidance for subsequent attention. There's no match at all here, just another butchery in the making again by the world's supreme bully.
From: An Intensive De-Indoctrination, But I'm Fine Now | Registered: Aug 2005
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Cueball
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posted 02 October 2007 04:17 AM
And that is just the begining.They have a whole network of IRG operatives set up all over Iraq, carefully laying the groundwork for immediate assaults on choice US targets throughout Iraq. Many of these people are in place already, weapons caches, etc. etc. The delicate part is the diplomacy they must do with their Shia friends in Iraq. Probably some of that being set up in Afghanistan as well. This will be war on the installment plan. It may never even be annouced. [ 02 October 2007: Message edited by: Cueball ]
From: Out from under the bridge and out for a stroll | Registered: Dec 2003
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Buddy Kat
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posted 03 October 2007 08:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Slumberjack:
Iran may be able to inflict some damage and potentially disrupt the flow of Persian Gulf oil for awhile, but Iran is certainly no match whatsoever for a nation that spends upwards of half a trillion dollars annually in defense spending. While they may get lucky with a few strikes from unguided missles of the scud variety, the guided versions, both surface to surface, surface to sea, and surface to air, are extremely vunerable to electronic countermeasures, of which the US will widely employ, while earnestly locating the source of the guidance for subsequent attention. There's no match at all here, just another butchery in the making again by the world's supreme bully.
However Iran has access to technology the US doesn't posses...Iran makes and modify's it's own weapons. Besides One nuke is all it takes ..not trillions of dollars. A good example are the "improvised explosive device" something the US did not count on or foresee...and now they spend billions , yes billions trying to figure out a way to protect themselves from them. As they helplessly get blown up on a daily basis at the US defense test site known as Iraq. I would not discount or minimize anything an oil rich nation that is buddy buddy with Russia and China yet, especially after the US has shown in spades it's all right to have war when defending your corporate interests and needs. There was an msnbc link for the following detailing the billions spent and the helplessness of the US military when dealing with weapons they don't have or have any knowledge of..but it disappeared today.Wonder why? but I did save a snippet.
On Aug. 3, 2005, the deadliest roadside bomb ever encountered by U.S. troops in Iraq detonated beneath a 26-ton armored personnel carrier, killing 14 Marines and revealing yet another American vulnerability in the struggle against improvised explosive devices. "Huge fire and dust rose from the place of the explosion," an Iraqi witness reported from the blast site in Haditha, in Anbar province. In Baghdad and in Washington, the bleak recognition that a new species of bomb -- the underbelly, or "deep buried," IED -- could demolish any combat vehicle in the U.S. arsenal "was a light-bulb moment for sure," as a Pentagon analyst later put it. "Of the 81,000 IED attacks in Iraq over the past 4 1/2 years, few proved more devastating to morale than that "huge fire" in Haditha. At a time when coalition casualties per IED steadily declined, even as the number of bombs steadily increased, the abrupt obliteration of an entire squad -- made up mostly of reservists from Ohio -- revealed that the billions of dollars being spent on heavier armor and other "defeat the device" initiatives had clear limits." Can you imagine the confusion and helplessness when something more complicated and lethal than ied's are encountered by the US? Like undetectable aircraft carrier sinking torpedos? [ 03 October 2007: Message edited by: Buddy Kat ]
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