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M.Gregus
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posted 15 November 2007 06:25 AM      Profile for M.Gregus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Reconcile is the world's first anti-depressant for dogs. It's based on Prozac, and according to the pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly, it targets separation anxiety, and "can help restore the human-pet bond."

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While you may not be familiar with canine separation anxiety, you are probably familiar with its symptoms. While you are gone, your dog may do one or several of the following:

* Chew destructively
* Bark or whine
* Inappropriate urination and/or defecation
* Drool
* Pace
* Tremble
* Vomit
* … or worse

Separation anxiety is a clinical condition in your dog's brain. Your pet is not a bad dog. Your pet's behavior is the result of separation anxiety.


But judging from the list of side effects listed on the official site, the cure may be worse than the so-called disease.

Reconcile website


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Michelle
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posted 15 November 2007 07:31 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh for frig sakes. Millions of people in Africa can't get AIDS drugs, but that's okay, as long as they make designer drugs to cure bullshit made-up doggie "diseases".
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Lard Tunderin' Jeezus
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posted 15 November 2007 08:05 AM      Profile for Lard Tunderin' Jeezus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Next up: Cialis for Spot - because he just isn't humping your leg the way he used to.
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Doug
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posted 15 November 2007 09:00 AM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by M.Gregus:
Reconcile is the world's first anti-depressant for dogs. It's based on Prozac

It is Prozac, just flavoured and dosed for dogs.


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lagatta
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posted 15 November 2007 09:05 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Unlike some of the silly accessories for pets, or rather their owners, judicious use of this might make the difference between life and death for a pooch who has become very difficult to live with.

I fail to see how providing proper medical care to our furry friends has any influence over the woeful medical care available to AIDS sufferers in sub-Saharan Africa. I have been involved in international solidarity movements for decades, and I love my cat.


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kingblake
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posted 15 November 2007 09:19 AM      Profile for kingblake     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One of my dogs, Banjo, has aggression problems. He was terribly treated as a young pup, and since adopting him we've discovered that while he's super-sweet with us and with most friends, he is *extremely* unpredictable around big men and some dogs.

He's been to training school, and we do our best to train him at home as well.

He sometimes gets enraged out of nowhere, and once snapped at a young child. We had a one-on-one session with an 'animal holistic behavioralist' as well as several vets. The behavioralist gave us some handy tips which are sometimes useful, but when Banjo absolutely loses it, there is nothing we can do except hold him down, wait for it to pass, and ensure he doesn't hurt himself or anyone else.

The vets pretty much said "if he hurts the wrong dog or bites a kid, he will have to be put down", and then prescribed doggie prozac along with some training advice. He's been on the prozac for several months now. Doesn't solve everything, but it certainly has helped. He's just as energetic, playful, and loving as ever. But doesn't get riddled with anxiety the way he used to.


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Fartful Codger
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posted 15 November 2007 09:27 AM      Profile for Fartful Codger     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There have been anti-depressants for dogs for more than a decade. Clomicalm is the brand name for a drug called apo-clomimpramine, which is basically a canine version of immimpramine.
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Sineed
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posted 15 November 2007 10:32 AM      Profile for Sineed     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Do you mean clomipramine and imipramine? Those are given to people, too, though they've largely been replaced with the SSRIs (the Prozac-type drugs).

I take my elderly cat to the vet sometimes for a progesterone shot that improves her appetite (at 18 years, she gets emaciated). And I've donated drugs to be taken to the Phillipines for people who can't usually afford them. Surely we can look after people and animals without having to choose between them.


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jrose
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posted 15 November 2007 10:40 AM      Profile for jrose     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Or we can treat it the herbal way.
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Fartful Codger
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posted 16 November 2007 08:57 PM      Profile for Fartful Codger     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, my spelling of drugs isn't what it used to be!

If we subscribe to the theory that human brains need chemical treatment, it's not a stretch to think that canine brains also need similar treatment. I'd prefer that for my puppies over the alternative any day.


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clersal
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posted 16 November 2007 09:10 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I love my cats and dog but a couple of years ago the famous castrated Jerome that I had mentioned ad nauseam about his great hunting abilities out of nowhere started attacking his sister.
One day I think that if I had not been at home he would have killed her. His mother was also scared of him.

Sorry, straight to the Vet and bye bye Jerome. I liked that cat but I am not going to search of the whys he became a potential family killer and made the decision the keep the mother and daughter, who at that time were nervous wrecks and it took them months to realize that the critter door was not Jerome entering.

I don't have the money to keep a cat on Prozac or cat psychiatry and agree with Michelle on this.

Just to add this is not on the same level as a cat or dog having a sore ear.

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Michelle
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posted 17 November 2007 02:54 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know. I'm still not convinced. I think a lot of people get pets, leave them home alone all day shut up in the house for 10 hours while they're at work, and then wonder why the animals are depressed or acting strangely when they get home.

Here's a newsflash. No one has the right to have a pet. Animals were not created to be love-givers or human companions on our time schedule. If you're going to get a pet, you should be able to give a home to the pet where they can roam outside when they want to (who wants to live inside for their whole lives?), have lots of companionship, whether human or otherwise, etc. If you're keeping your dog or cat locked up in your house all day while you're at work and then drugging them into good behaviour on the evenings and weekends, that's no life for an animal. Their purpose in life isn't to make you happy at your convenience.

I don't think I'll ever have pets again, unless I can be home with them and spend lots and lots of time with them. And even then maybe not. The pet industry is one of the most frivolous and wasteful industries going, and it certainly doesn't do the animals any good, since so many of them wind up in shelters.

Gary Francione is a very interesting (and I think probably controversial) thinker along these lines. He believes that animals should have one overriding right - not to be considered property. Here's what he has to say that I think would cause a lot of pet owners, even ones who think of their animals as members of the family, to bristle. But I agree with him. Unfortunately, I haven't been living up to my beliefs lately.

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If, however, we did accord animals this one right not to be treated as property, we would be committed to abolishing and not merely regulating animal exploitation because our uses of animals for food, experiments, product testing, entertainment, and clothing all assume that animals are nothing but property. If we accepted that animals have the right not to be treated as our property, we would stop -completely- bringing domestic animals into existence.

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If animals are morally significant at all, then we must abolish the institution of animal property. We must stop creating and owning domestic animals or using wild animals as means to our ends. My view is that we should abolish animal slavery and not seek to reform an inherently immoral institution.

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Gary Francione: If we are serious about animal rights, we have a responsibility to stop bringing them into existence for our purposes. We would stop bringing all domestic animals into existence for human purposes.

And that, according to Francione, includes breeding companion animals. That's not the focus of this particular article, but I've heard other interviews and read other stuff by him where he says that if we're serious about animal liberation, then we'll stop creating millions of "pets", spay and neuter the ones we have now before they create more, love the ones we have now, and work towards phasing them out, since they're at this point almost a completely human-created commodity. Same with domesticated cows, chickens, and pigs.


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Tommy_Paine
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posted 17 November 2007 07:00 AM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lagatta:
I fail to see how providing proper medical care to our furry friends has any influence over the woeful medical care available to AIDS sufferers in sub-Saharan Africa. I have been involved in international solidarity movements for decades, and I love my cat.

I think the same device that enables us to see pets as part of our social sphere also enables us to see the rest of humanity as part of our social sphere.

I wonder if xenophobes have many pets?

I think the big difference in our culture today is that we have pets for the sake of having pets. Not that long ago, a cat or a dog wasn't primarily a pet, but a working member of the social organization of a family that had a valued practical role to play.

Now that we keep them and breed them to fill a primarily emotional need, they seem to be becoming infected with human emotional problems.


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