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Willowdale Wizard
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posted 30 March 2004 12:36 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
UNEP

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There are nearly 150 oxygen-starved or "dead zones" in the world’s oceans and seas, a new report by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) shows.

These ‘dead zones’ are linked to an excess of nutrients, mainly nitrogen, that originate from agricultural fertilizers, vehicle and factory emissions and wastes. Low levels of oxygen in the water make it difficult for fish, oysters and other marine creatures to survive as well as important habitats such as sea grass beds.

Klaus Toepfer, UNEP’s Executive Director, said: "humankind is engaged in a gigantic, global, experiment as a result of the inefficient and often over-use of fertilizers, the discharge of untreated sewage and the ever rising emissions from vehicles and factories. Some of these so called dead zones are up to 70,000 square kilometres."

Some of the earliest recorded dead zones were in places like Chesapeake Bay in the United States, the Baltic Sea, the Kattegat, the Black Sea and the northern Adriatic Sea. Others have been reported in Scandinavian fjords. The most well known area of depleted oxygen is in the Gulf of Mexico. Its occurrence is directly linked to nutrients or fertilizers brought to the Gulf by the Mississippi River.

Others have been appearing off South America, China, Japan, south east Australia and New Zealand.



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Loony Bin
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posted 30 March 2004 12:45 PM      Profile for Loony Bin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anyone want to start a pool on how long before we're all extinct?
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Polunatic
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posted 30 March 2004 12:48 PM      Profile for Polunatic   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ooops.
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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 30 March 2004 12:49 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Lizard Breath:
Anyone want to start a pool on how long before we're all extinct?

How would you know if you'd won?


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Loony Bin
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posted 30 March 2004 02:36 PM      Profile for Loony Bin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It wouldn't matter anyways, there'd be nowhere to spend my winnings.

Screw it.

I don't understand why people aren't more horrified by news like this. There's only one ocean. We ought to recognize that these dead zones are just the beginning. They're seeds for a completely dead ocean. Especially if we don't change our sewage and fertilizing habits right away, and start work on reclaiming these parts of the ocean as much as is possible.

But that's never going to happen because everyone in Government is a slave to everyone in big business who is a slave to their profit margins and so we're all doomed.

Goddamn.


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Mr. Magoo
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posted 30 March 2004 02:39 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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There's only one ocean.

<pedantic> Well, actually there's the ... aw, never mind</pedantic>

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Loony Bin
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posted 30 March 2004 02:45 PM      Profile for Loony Bin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The water on Earth is finite, and it's all interconnected.

That's what I meant by "only one ocean".


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Polunatic
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posted 30 March 2004 02:47 PM      Profile for Polunatic   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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They're seeds for a completely dead ocean.
Just take a look at Mars to catch a glimpse of our future.

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mighty brutus
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posted 30 March 2004 03:03 PM      Profile for mighty brutus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What? Me worry?? --these reports will soon be pooh-poohed by those who will dismiss them as 'fake science'.
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John Russell
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posted 30 March 2004 05:11 PM      Profile for John Russell     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Your right. We're screwed.
The dinosaurs, with their peanut sized brains will have greatly exceeded the number of centuries they ruled the planet as dominant species. We are the only life forms that crap in our own nest. I'm feeling the impulse to tell my children not to reproduce, because thier kids will starve.
For all of those with the opinion that technology will save us, keep this in mind :
As long as the inspiration and funding for new technology is comerce driven, only the rich will be able to afford to breathe and eat.

And you aint rich, bubba.

R


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posted 30 March 2004 06:09 PM      Profile for Pogo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It has been a good run.
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Ubu
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posted 30 March 2004 06:19 PM      Profile for Ubu        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yikes! There's no quick fix for water pollution, either, especially when it gets to that scale. As usual, human beings are raping the Earth of her natural beauty. Is it just me, or are environmental concerns not as close to the forefront of political consideration as they were 10 or 20 years ago ? Today, the environmental movement has been hijacked by the vogue global warming debate, which is extremely important, but should always be secondary to direct air and water pollution. Ultimately, I want to breathe clean air and drink clean water. I'd prefer not to bake too, but let's start with the water. So, now we can't even escape the pollution on a deserted tropical isle ?
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Willowdale Wizard
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posted 31 March 2004 04:35 AM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Klaus Toepfer, UNEP’s Executive Director, said: "humankind is engaged in a gigantic, global, experiment as a result of the inefficient and often over-use of fertilizers, the discharge of untreated sewage and the ever rising emissions from vehicles and factories.

what depresses me is that i've lost count of the "gigantic, global experiments" that could have potentially damaging (and overlapping) long term effects:

- over-use of fertilizer (plus desertification/intensive land use)
- genetically-engineered foods
- global warming
- nuclear waste
- mobile phone radiation


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Loony Bin
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posted 31 March 2004 11:06 AM      Profile for Loony Bin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
sorry, freak double post action there.

[ 31 March 2004: Message edited by: Lizard Breath ]


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Loony Bin
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posted 31 March 2004 11:09 AM      Profile for Loony Bin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
you missed oil, coal, and natural gas mining. And could probably throw in diamond mining too, or others, but I don't know much about them.

Also, the hog farms in North Carolina and Alberta and elsewhere, or generally all industrial farming (including fish farms).

And our overdependence and blind reliance on the fossil fuel-powered vehicle in its many forms, from cars and trucks to planes and ships. (and don't forget the crap that the ships drop into the ocean!).

We should also probably count modern warfare, with the great explosions, the dirty bombs, and the chemical and biological warfare...

And then there's the craze for completely disposable consumer goods to meet every "need"...coupled with our penchant for incinerating or just burying our trash--when we're not throwing it into the ocean.

We're the dumbest animals that ever walked this earth, and we may well be the last.


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caoimhin
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posted 31 March 2004 01:48 PM      Profile for caoimhin        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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We're the dumbest animals that ever walked this earth, and we may well be the last.

Sorta. We definitely won't be the last. Certainly, though, we humans are on the wrong path. Life will go on here on earth, it is just that that which sustains human life may not. While water, air and soil systems do have limited ability to repair and cleanse themselves, humans are outpacing that natural reaction without any concern for the future. Mother Earth may turn her back on us if She hasn't already.

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