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Topic: National Post attacks CJC for poverty stand
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Jaku
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posted 20 September 2008 09:29 AM
It seems that the National Post believes that poverty is not a Jewish issue;National Post blog Jonathan Kay seems to go so far as to suggest that since most Jews are rich why would they care about poverty. The CJC responded strongly: CJC response I know the Post leans Tory but attacking CJC for targeting poverty? WOW!
From: Toronto | Registered: Dec 2007
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Michelle
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posted 20 September 2008 09:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jaku: Jonathan Kay seems to go so far as to suggest that since most Jews are rich why would they care about poverty.
"Suggest"!? Jebus, he comes right out and says it! quote: Canada's Jewish community is among the nation's wealthiest demographics. So why, exactly, is Canada's umbrella group for Jewish organizations telling Jews that the number-one voting issue they face on October 14 is the creation of a "national poverty strategy"
Wow. You can bet if someone on the left said something like that, the National Post and every other news outlet in the country would have a hairy shitfit. (And rightfully so.) I predict that there will be barely a ripple in this case.
From: I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell. | Registered: May 2001
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just one of the concerned
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posted 20 September 2008 11:28 AM
quote: DRESSED in plain black clothes, with neatly cropped hair and an unsure smile, Hannah Rosen appears nervous. It’s very rare that people in the Jewish community talk openly about their poverty, but she’s determined to do exactly that.For too long, she says, the Jewish poor have lived “behind closed doors”, and she wants the community to acknowledge their existence.
Ignored by our own everywhere in the diaspora quote: Steven Nasatir, JUF / Jewish Federation of Metropolitan Chicago president, says one of every five Jews among Chicago's 270,000 Jews is poor or almost poor according to the federal government's definition. He says there are no figures for the general poverty rate among Jews in the United States, but according to the federations' umbrella organization, the UJC, 15 to 20 percent of American Jews are poor. In fact, the Jewish poverty rate in the United States is higher than that in Israel. In Israel 24 percent of the population is considered poor, but about half is not Jewish. New York also has a high rate of Jewish poverty. "Usually the words 'Jewish poverty" are seen as a contradiction in terms," says William Rapfogel, CEO of the Metropolitan Council on Jewish Poverty. "It's not. More than a quarter of the members of the world's richest Jewish community live close to the poverty line.
Despite conventional wisdom, poverty rate high in U.S..[ 20 September 2008: Message edited by: just one of the concerned ]
From: in the cold outside of the cjc | Registered: Jan 2008
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lagatta
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posted 22 September 2008 07:26 AM
Merkaz here could assure Jonathan Kay that there is a lot of poverty among Jewish people here in Montréal. Not all is among the ultra-Orthodox by any means. Elderly people working hard in decades before the great access to higher education among Jewish people, immigrants from the former Soviet Union, some immigrants from the Middle East and elsewhere, and simply people who have fallen through the proverbial cracks... As well as a kosher food bank, le Mercaz has what I believe is the only kosher soup kitchen in Canada; certainly in Québec. It is not only racist, but very poor journalism to assert that because a given "community" (here defined through formal religious affiliation) might have a higher than average income, that there are no poor people among that community. No poor people in Alberta? Or that people should only be concerned about "their own". That is an anti-semitic cliché, of course... And yes, bizarre indeed to be agreeing with CJC!
From: Se non ora, quando? | Registered: Apr 2002
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St. Paul's Progressive
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posted 22 September 2008 10:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by lagatta: Not all is among the ultra-Orthodox by any means. Elderly people working hard in decades before the great access to higher education among Jewish people, immigrants from the former Soviet Union, some immigrants from the Middle East and elsewhere, and simply people who have fallen through the proverbial cracks...
I'd say in Toronto a lot of the FSU immigrants, most of whom have very extensive educations, are underemployed and they're probably have the highest rate of poverty within the Jewish community. Anyway good for Farber for writing this response to this idiotic comment by Jonathan Kay, who is feeding the old "rich Jews" stereotype who only care about their own pocketbook and Israel. I'd say Peter Kent would have come much closer in St. Paul's if that were the case. While one can find many reasons to criticize Farber, he has always been very good on the issue of poverty. [ 22 September 2008: Message edited by: St. Paul's Progressive ] [ 22 September 2008: Message edited by: St. Paul's Progressive ]
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bigcitygal
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posted 28 September 2008 05:13 PM
Hi, moderator here.Ambrose, don't accuse a babbler of something unless you can find a thread in which they are expressing the sentiment you're accusing them of. Proof of Kay's support for Israel doesn't do that. unionist, if you can't say something nice..... If this doesn't return to the lovely charming topic of the OP I'll have to close it. Which would be a shame. There are so few threads outside the "canadian politics" forum these days.
From: It's difficult to work in a group when you're omnipotent - Q | Registered: Apr 2005
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