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Dr. Pangloss
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posted 23 April 2005 06:05 PM      Profile for Dr. Pangloss     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm getting a bit confused over fish.
On one hand they are very nutritious. There have been many articles and studies that reccommend eating plenty of fish.
On the other hand, fish farming causes lots of environmental problems. I certainly know very little about it but I understand that fisheries are not very sustainable either.

What to do...


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Agent 204
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posted 23 April 2005 06:13 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fish is the only meat I eat, but I seldom eat it either, and probably should eat even less. Eating freshwater fish is probably ok, but commercial fisheries overexploit that resource too, so it's probably best to avoid eating very much. Yeah, it's good for you, but those nutrients can be obtained elsewhere. Save the fish for special occasions.

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alisea
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posted 23 April 2005 07:48 PM      Profile for alisea     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is an area that I know a fair bit about, as I work in environmental and fisheries consulting.

First off, the environmental effects and the impacts of fishing entirely depends what fish, what population (i.e., what lot of fish breed where), and how they're fished. Some fish are still plentiful, and making lots more of themselves. Some aren't. You can't make blanket comments like "I shouldn't eat so much fish," as that's essentially meaningless.

Fish farms are a different kettle of, well, fish from wild caught fish, and they've had some very unpleasant impacts. I'm not willing to condemn them all, though -- there's no reason why fish farming can't be done right. But how it's been managed so far in many areas has been hugely destructive, ranging from the demolition of huge swaths of mangroves for shrimp production in south Asia, the complete industrialization of large parts of the coast of China for mind-bogglingly intensive aquaculture, and the messes resulting from salmon farms on the coasts of Canada.

But many fisheries are sustainable, and should be supported and encouraged. I regularly buy hook-and-line caught haddock from my local organic food supplier. I buy lobster, clams, farmed mussels. I buy mackerel and herring. Fish is a *good* thing.

You can educate yourselves about what's working and what's not in fisheries fairly easily -- take a look at Seaweb, for example, http://www.seaweb.org/try, and their highly successful "Give Swordfish a Break" campaign. Or google "Take a Pass on Chilean Sea Bass". Or check out the Marine Stewarship Council, http://www.msc.org/, or Nova Scotia's Ecology Action Centre, http://www.ecologyaction.ca/marine_issues/marine_issues.shtm, and their ongoing fight to stop dragging/trawling.

The increasing pressure to avoid pressure on the vulnerable species and populations, and to encourage the use of the sustainable ones, is working. Many fish populations are critically endangered, no question -- but I would argue that people are becoming increasingly aware of the implications, and protection campaigns are working. Don't stop eating fish -- just eat smart.


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Boom Boom
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posted 23 April 2005 08:29 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I live in a fishing village, and the snow crab season has just started. Today's catch looked quite good. However, it's all being stored in cases packed with ice to be sent further down the coast, and then to Montreal, and eventually airlifted to Japan. Later in the year we will be able to buy some for ourselves, but not right now. Still later on there will be a boat or maybe two out doing the scientific cod harvest, to determine to state of the cod fishery, and most of that harvest will be sold locally. Won't happen soon enough - we'd love some fresh fish.
I hope one of the guys who fish for mackerel will be going out soon - I love mackerel for breakfast.

About six years ago IIRC there was concern about what is called the 'red tide' but fortunately we haven't seen this since. But we still get warnings from the clinic to eat certain varieties of fish no more than once a week or even once a month, due to (very low and almost insignificant) traces of mercury found in samples.


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Cueball
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posted 23 April 2005 10:19 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One of my Loaches died tonight. RIP.
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Surferosad
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posted 23 April 2005 10:51 PM      Profile for Surferosad   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I eat fish 'cause they don't have any feelings...
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Reality. Bites.
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posted 23 April 2005 11:10 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Surferosad:
I eat fish 'cause they don't have any feelings...

Have you ever considered eating Conservatives instead?


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paxamillion
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posted 23 April 2005 11:30 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by RealityBites:
Have you ever considered eating Conservatives instead?

Too high in carbs and fat.


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Surferosad
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posted 24 April 2005 01:57 AM      Profile for Surferosad   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by RealityBites:

Have you ever considered eating Conservatives instead?


I'm allergic to most invertebrates...


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