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Geneva
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posted 19 December 2006 10:01 AM      Profile for Geneva     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is this just the beginning of a searing debate?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/15/AR2006121501820.html

... I am the result: a donor-conceived child.
And for a while, I was pretty angry about it.

I was angry at the idea that where donor conception is concerned, everyone focuses on the "parents" -- the adults who can make choices about their own lives. The recipient gets sympathy for wanting to have a child. The donor gets a guarantee of anonymity and absolution from any responsibility for the offspring of his "donation." As long as these adults are happy, then donor conception is a success, right?

Not so. The children born of these transactions are people, too. Those of us in the first documented generation of donor babies -- conceived in the late 1980s and early '90s, when sperm banks became more common and donor insemination began to flourish -- are coming of age, and we have something to say.

[...]
Those of us created with donated sperm won't stay bubbly babies forever. We're all going to grow into adults and form opinions about the decision to bring us into the world in a way that deprives us of the basic right to know where we came from, what our history is and who both our parents are.

Some countries, such as Australia and the United Kingdom, are beginning to move away from the practice of paying donors and granting them anonymity, and making it somewhat easier for offspring to find their biological fathers. I understand anonymity's appeal for so many donors: Even if their offspring were to find them one day -- which is becoming more and more probable -- they have no legal, social, financial or moral obligation to their children.

[ 19 December 2006: Message edited by: Geneva ]


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Sans Tache
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posted 19 December 2006 12:14 PM      Profile for Sans Tache        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That was very well written and moving story. I hope this young author finds the love and relationship with her father she has been longing for.

An adopted friend of mine felt a very large void in his life and wanted (had) to find his biological mother in the worst way. Being born and adopted in a different country, this made his task monumentous. He never did complete his task.


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Brian White
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posted 29 December 2006 01:09 PM      Profile for Brian White   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think it is a good story too.
And no da can really hide from his kids again because of dna testing.
I imagine the union of sperm donors will campaign against genetic fingerprinting quite a bit!
A couple of interesting sperm donor storys.
The ugly doctor who went to trial for using his own sperm instead of the donors. The cortroom was full of women with black veils and holding and comparing their pics of their ugly babys to the father.
Sperm donor elevates one aspect of a man. (His looks) above others. Women have no idea of the guys sexual orentation or mental illness history when they get injected with his sperm.
There are lots of questions that need to be answered. Does a child have a right to know who their genetic da is?
And should donation excuse you from paying child support later?
I believe that donors can give (and get paid for giving) until they have fathered a set number of kids. I dont know if it is 7 or 70 but I think there is a number.
So if you are not too ugly, and they turn you away after donation 10 or 12, you probably have a large family.
Anyway, its an interesting problem.

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500_Apples
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posted 29 December 2006 03:07 PM      Profile for 500_Apples   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Brian white, interesting questions.

Personally, I'd probably never qualify as a sperm donor. I'm 5"11 and 180 lbs, I wear glasses, et cetera, so that's three things put together that would cause any women to veto me as an anonymous sperm donor.

That being said, I don't think they should ever be forced to pay child support. Right now sperm donation fulfills a purpose for thousands of women who want anonymous fathers, and an anonymous father is a full package. You can't have paternal financial support without default paternal financial involvement, that's fundamentally absurd. Note that should financial support ever become the norm, all existing sperm stocks would be invalididated as the contracts the men signed for are no longer legal. Following that, it would become very difficult to find an anonymous door at banks if men are no longer willing to donate for fear of financial ruin.

I predict an analogous situation will arise in 15-20 years when artificial wombs are available and there's a high-priced market for egg donors from otherwise perfectly nice men who couldn't find a woman they were compatible with.


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Brian White
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posted 29 December 2006 04:21 PM      Profile for Brian White   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by 500_Apples:
Brian white, interesting questions.
That being said, I don't think they should ever be forced to pay child support. Right now sperm donation fulfills a purpose for thousands of women who want anonymous fathers, and an anonymous father is a full package".
I think lots of women find an anonymous father in a club or a bar and never see them again, too, some by accident, some by design. Do these da's have to pay child support if ever they get caught?
And what of the child growing up not knowing who their father is?
Some people here are so haunted by family roots that they spend thousands of dollars finding their ancestors in europe asia and africa.
Why deny this to people with testtube daddies?
Sure the mummy wants an anonomous da and the da wants genetic immortality but the kid will want to know who the da is. Why should the want of the da and the ma be higher than the kids once the kid is 18? Equal rights seems right to me regardless of paperwork.
And what about rich old tightfisted guys wanting to spread their seed without spreading their wealth? They will be country hopping with their personal grooming staff, their grecian 2000, and their best photographer, jerking off into testtubes all over the world.
I personally feel it is very unfair on the kids to disallow them to find their fathers.
I bet court cases in the future will be focused on their right to know.
Brian


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C.Morgan
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posted 29 December 2006 04:28 PM      Profile for C.Morgan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If we want to see sperm donations hit an all time low, just start forcing donors to be reunited with their offspring.
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Brian White
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posted 29 December 2006 04:58 PM      Profile for Brian White   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I will not force mr donor to be reunited but maybe the equal rights of the adult kids will be validated in courts fairly soon!
Not my problem, I never donated.
Will donor anxiety be the catch phrase of the next 15 years?
HA HA
Brian
quote:
Originally posted by C.Morgan:
If we want to see sperm donations hit an all time low, just start forcing donors to be reunited with their offspring.

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Palamedes
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posted 29 December 2006 10:12 PM      Profile for Palamedes        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, it is only a matter of time before the legal argument is made that since these men are the fathers, they have a legal obligation to provide support for their children.

I think that is what the donors fear most, which is why there is a massive shortage of sperm donors - which is why Australia was at one time offering free vacations for Canadians to come to Australia and donate sperm.


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