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Hephaestion
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posted 11 March 2006 07:54 AM
quote: The irreverent documentary How William Shatner Changed the World features the actor examining the ways Star Trek technology inspired real-life innovators, whose inventions include communicator-like flip phones and medical equipment reminiscent of the starship Enterprise's sick bay.
Airing Sunday on the History Channel in the U.S., the show kicks off the network's Out of This World week, featuring explorations of comets, meteors and UFOs. The channel is not available in Canada; the program, commissioned by Discovery Channel Canada, aired here a few months ago and garnered strong ratings.
The documentary studies how Gene Roddenberry's sci-fi series helped energize scientific explorers who created gadgets we could only dream about when Star Trek premiered in the 1960s.
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"They were deadly serious about Star Trek," Shatner said in an interview after taping TV spots to promote the History Channel shows. "Scientists are a strange group in that they catch glimpses of something that is mysterious and wonderful. They can't quite put their finger on it, so they grasp at something.
"It's a step-by-step process. You climb on the backs of giants. Only rarely are there leaps. Scientific advances mostly are incremental. If enough time goes by, a decade goes by, suddenly, that increment, you take year one to year 10, looks like a giant leap. So here we are 30, 40 years after Star Trek, and it looks like it was extraordinary, the advances we've made.
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It says the History Channel is not available in Canada, but I know there's 'murcan babblers, and some may have dishes that get US stations as well. Of course, not having cable or a dish, I've never seen this even when it *did* air in Canada, but it looks like it'd be interesting...
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Tommy_Paine
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posted 11 March 2006 09:15 AM
I've seen this documentary. It's all very tongue in cheek, with Shatner at his self depricating best.I wouldn't look to it as a bombardment of factiods or information, but it's fun and entertaining. In fact, one could say--with a raised eyebrow-- that it was "Fascinating."
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Cartman
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posted 11 March 2006 04:38 PM
quote: Although, skdadl, may I suggest you rent a season or two of Deep Space 9? I actually think you'll enjoy the subtleties of the show. You silly solids!
DS9!? quote: Cartman..."Nemesis" blew chunks. I *literally* fell asleep during it...
UH!(in disgust and astonishment). And you sir consider yourself a Star Trek fan!? Have you even been to Vulcan to see the Enterprise?Actually, it is kinda sad, but Nimoy once came for a convention to help out the town's economy. skdadl, you might actually like Rodenberry's humanism which is quite salient in most of the shows. Oops, the site I used says Nimoy never came, though I was pretty sure that he did. More Star Trek historical facts to verify and dispute. [ 11 March 2006: Message edited by: Cartman ]
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lagatta
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posted 11 March 2006 05:01 PM
A friend of mine hosts the "Jewish Digest" show on local community radio station Radio Centre-Ville. As it is Purim, he did a deliberately silly Purim show, featuring among other kitch numbers one in Yinglish featuring portrayals of Shatner and Nimoy... It was excruciating, of course, but deliberately so.
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Crippled_Newsie
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posted 11 March 2006 05:38 PM
Hated Nemesis-- couldn't finish it. Hated Deep Space 9-- though the boyf swears by it.... the freak. Hated Voyager-- and I tried so hard to like it, too. REALLY hated Enterprise-- especiallly the hillbilly engineer, whatever his name was. 'Course Porthos the doggie was cute. And to be absolutely frank, the first couple of seasons of Next Generation don't hold up well. I don't know which season it was, but right aobut the time the uniforms went from 'leotards' to bulkier garments... the scripts did likewise. [DRIFTING] Hated Babylon 5-- Flounder from Animal House as an alien dude? Come on! Next you'll have Pinto Kroger playing, like, Mozart or something. Hate the new Battlestar Galactica-- Wait, you made Starbuck a girl?! Why, that is an insult to the masturbatory fantasies of an entire generation of queers. (Dirk Benedict was soooo dreeeeamy, c. 1978.) Hated Andromeda-- Just who thought that draping Kevin Sorbo with more clothing would make him more watchable? [END DRIFT]
From: It's all about the thumpa thumpa. | Registered: Oct 2004
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Jimmy Brogan
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posted 11 March 2006 09:16 PM
Most hated Star Trek characters:Janeway's bun: Didn't mind her character but the bun was a definite drag on the first few seasons. Riker's John Wayne walk. Geordi - Levar Burton is a brutal actor.
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The Evil Twin
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posted 11 March 2006 09:29 PM
quote: Janeway's bun: Didn't mind her character but the bun was a definite drag on the first few seasons.
Nah, that didn't affect me either way. Janeway's voice probably irritated me more than anything else. quote: Riker's John Wayne walk.
Have to disagree here. I love Riker...he's maybe my favourite Trek character. quote: Geordi - Levar Burton is a brutal actor.
Compared to William Shatner's "acting", Levar Burton is Lawrence Olivier.
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obscurantist
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posted 11 March 2006 11:57 PM
quote: You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon.
IMDB [ 12 March 2006: Message edited by: Yossarian ]
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 12 March 2006 12:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by rasmus raven: No way dude. That does not hold a candle to the sublime nuances of Shatner's Rocket Man.[edited to correct URL] [ 11 March 2006: Message edited by: rasmus raven ]
Ohmygod! Ohmygod! NOW I know where the Family Guy people got that bit from. Same web site, but Stewie! Now its twice as funny! Ah, Janeway. You know she's an Iowan (Dubuque) right? I loved "The Voyage Home." "too much LDS" and the whales. Oh, my! (geek? me? um. . . no.)
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Willowdale Wizard
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posted 12 March 2006 03:44 PM
fans of old trek: in star trek "generations", captain kirk dies twice, heroically saving the enterprisefans of new trek: in star trek "generations", captain kirk dies twice! boston legal: james spader: "Get a load of this. The lice that attack the salmon are called cling-ons." william shatner: "Wait, did you say Klingon?"
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Crippled_Newsie
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posted 12 March 2006 05:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by arborman: I always wondered why they never installed seatbelts in the bridge. Every time they got into some kind of fight there would be bodies flying back and forth. ... Same problem on the later Star Treks too.
I seem to recall that aboard one the many versions of the Enterprise-- may have just been in a time travel episode-- the handrests of the Captain's chair sort of folded over his or her thighs to hold the Captain in place. Did I hallucinate that? Also, what about that damned Holo-deck dealie that caused so much trouble for Next Generation? Wouldn't you think that about the second time the thing threatened reality as we know it, they'd simply jettison the bloody thing into space?
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Jimmy Brogan
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posted 12 March 2006 05:28 PM
My favorite episode ever was the one where Picard lives a whole life in twenty minutes. Great sci-fi writing. Each series was able to produce 3 or 4 great episodes a season, to mix in with all the chaff.
quote: Wouldn't you think that about the second time the thing threatened reality as we know it, they'd simply jettison the bloody thing into space?
No one's shutting down my "New York Jets Lockeroom Orgy" program without a fight.
quote: It's amazing the cultural impact of that one show, hey?
In lieu of an actual human presence in space we've had to settle for the fantasy version. [ 12 March 2006: Message edited by: Jimmy Brogan ]
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Cartman
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posted 12 March 2006 05:30 PM
Another Shakespearean actor Robert O'Reilly, does a good job playing Gowron, the true leader of the Klingon Empire! He can look really pissed and evil sometimes.How about that leader of the Borg? [ 12 March 2006: Message edited by: Cartman ]
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Clog-boy
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posted 12 March 2006 05:38 PM
You rang, milord..?Presenting you: Alice Krige [ 13 March 2006: Message edited by: Clog-boy ]
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Cartman
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posted 12 March 2006 05:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hephaestion:
Forget, "most hated" (there was nothing wrong with Janeway, thou foul poltroons!) How about faves? Of course, there was Montelban as "Khan" (fie upon your "rich Corinthian leather", Cartman!), but two of my other big-time faves were Plummer as "Admiral Kang" (sp?), and John Delancey as "Q" -- partly because Plummer and Delancey were soooo over-the-top, in a restrained sort of way. For Star trek, that is. (It's amazing the cultural impact of that one show, hey?)
I always thought that the idea of "Q" really sucked, but he/they pulled it off well during the very last episode.Star Trek actors that never were: Too bad they couldn't have tried out Christopher Walken as a Ferengi. [ 12 March 2006: Message edited by: Cartman ]
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Krago
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posted 12 March 2006 06:36 PM
Favourite character: Ensign Ro LarenWhile all the other crew members seemed to be carved out of marble ("Gee, you were first in your class at the Academy? So was I!"), she was the most 'human'. My second pick: Guinan I can't stand anything else Whoopi Goldberg has ever done, but I thought she was awesome on ST:TNG.
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Hephaestion
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posted 12 March 2006 07:40 PM
quote: Jimmy Brogan:
My favorite episode ever was the one where Picard lives a whole life in twenty minutes. Great sci-fi writing.
Agreed; that was awesome. I especially liked the little detail that Picard learned to play a small wooden flute during his "lifetime" in that episode, and then in subsequent episodes they would sometimes show him playing it quietly to himself and reminiscing with a sad look, but they never made a big deal about it, or even referenced the original program. I thought that was a deft touch.
quote: No one's shutting down my "New York Jets Lockeroom Orgy" program without a fight.
LOL I would'a dialed up Chokotai (sp?) for a little bit of chesterfield rugby, meself. That tattoo! Nummmm!
And despite Cartman's dislike of "Q", I loved Delancey's performances immensely, but my all-time favorite "Q" episode was the one where a member of the "Q Continuum" wanted to die -- to commit suicide, because he'd "done everything, been everything, been everywhere" and was weary of it all because there were no more mysteries to be found in continuing to live. Of course, Delancey's character tried to stop him, and Janeway became the arbiter on whether he should be allowed to die. I thought it was a great example of how Star Trek tackled tough subjects like euthenasia (and back in the '60s, race relations and so on.) It was always so much more than *just* escapist fantasy.[ 12 March 2006: Message edited by: Hephaestion ]
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Jimmy Brogan
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posted 12 March 2006 08:34 PM
quote: I would'a dialed up Chokotai (sp?)
Yeah however you spell it he was hot. So reasonable and self-assured. Glad he got the girl in the end. Being the Star Trek universe the 'girl' was a half cyborg with comic book breasts. [ 12 March 2006: Message edited by: Jimmy Brogan ]
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Wilf Day
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posted 12 March 2006 10:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Krago: Favourite character: Ensign Ro Laren.
Especially in Conundrum when, blessed with amnesia, she says to Riker "what makes you think you're going to get any sleep." quote: Originally posted by Jimmy Brogan: My favorite episode ever was the one where Picard lives a whole life in twenty minutes.
"The Inner Light." Absolutely one of the top ones. Picard always said he wasn't comfortable with children, but look what a great dad he would have made, and what a terrific daughter he would have had. quote: Originally posted by Hephaestion: I especially liked the little detail that Picard learned to play a small wooden flute during his "lifetime" in that episode, and then in subsequent episodes they would sometimes show him playing it quietly to himself and reminiscing with a sad look, but they never made a big deal about it, or even referenced the original program.
Did you miss "Lessons?" Where Picard and Nella Daren fall in love after he tells her the whole story? That and "The Inner Light" are my two favourite Picard episodes. Well, maybe "Captain's Holiday" is tied with them, where he meets Vash.
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 12 March 2006 10:14 PM
quote: My favorite episode ever was the one where Picard lives a whole life in twenty minutes.
If we're talking about the same one, I always thought it was a nice touch that in later eps, he retained the ability to play that little musical instrument. I never became a fanboy, but it had its moments.
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arborman
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posted 12 March 2006 10:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Crippled_Newsie:
Also, what about that damned Holo-deck dealie that caused so much trouble for Next Generation? Wouldn't you think that about the second time the thing threatened reality as we know it, they'd simply jettison the bloody thing into space?
Maybe, but if you had one, would you throw it away? Hell no.
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gunnar gunnarson
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posted 12 March 2006 11:00 PM
Magoo: word.Closest they ever got was when a couple of characters were busted for some of their more, er, "self-indulgent" programs. I could give more detail, but I'm not going to set myself up as uber-nerd.
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radiorahim
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posted 12 March 2006 11:43 PM
Favourite character...Quark the Ferengi bartender as played by Armin Shimerman from DS9.Actually I think DS9 was the best of the spin-off series...had the best theme song too I could never get into Babylon 5. But I'm hooked on the new Battlestar Galactica...but because the Space Channel is 12 episodes behind the Sci-Fi Channel in the U.S., you need to become friendly with bittorrent.
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Bobolink
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posted 12 March 2006 11:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Crippled_Newsie:
I seem to recall that aboard one the many versions of the Enterprise-- may have just been in a time travel episode-- the handrests of the Captain's chair sort of folded over his or her thighs to hold the Captain in place. Did I hallucinate that?
You are right. In the original Star Trek: The Motion Picture, the seats on the bridge did have restraints to keep crew members at their stations instead of flying all over the bridge. [ 13 March 2006: Message edited by: Bobolink ]
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Wilf Day
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posted 13 March 2006 03:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by NWOntarian: If the theme song was the worst problem that show had, it would have been very lucky.
That show didn't just have problems; it was one living, breathing problem from day one. The problem was the concept -- the adolescence of humanity. It was inherent to the whole idea of a backstory behind the original series, which itself showed a pretty immature version of intersteller mankind compared with the mature humanity of TNG. So they had to position the show as even dumber than James T. Kirk. Which they did to perfection. I admired their faithfulness to the concept. I just DIDN'T. LIKE. IT. Except for the Vulcans, the proto-Data genius Arik Soong, and Hoshi, especially when they let loose in the alternate universe with Empress Sato. Boy, that must have been immense fun for the cast, liberated at last from the boring confines of the show's concept.
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scott
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posted 13 March 2006 01:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Crippled_Newsie: REALLY hated Enterprise-- especiallly the hillbilly engineer, whatever his name was.
Evertime he speaks he reminds me of a way smarter version of Dubya. [ 13 March 2006: Message edited by: scott ]
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rockerbiff
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posted 14 March 2006 01:44 PM
The new BSG is by far the best tv series I've ever downloaded If "Enterprise" had been more like the new BSG, then it would never have been cancelled. I just watched the last season of Enterprise and it wasn't too bad, I especially like the episode where the Kirk era reliant came back in time from the other dimension and the Enterprise crew got to wear the TOS outfits. That being said there were too many previously used themes used in Enterprise, the show was simply not applying "to boldy go where no one has gone before" motto. BSG is applying this to a significant degree. BSG is filmed in Vancouver, lots of the original Caprica was right here at SFU. Between the new Dr Who and BSG there is no better time to be a sci-fi geek with a hi speed net connection. Richard Hatch is in the new BSG also, if that is any consolation CN. Starbuck and Boomer are female in the new series. I would have thought the whole political angle of BSG would interest many babblers. quote: Originally posted by Crippled_Newsie: Hate the new Battlestar Galactica-- Wait, you made Starbuck a girl?! Why, that is an insult to the masturbatory fantasies of an entire generation of queers. (Dirk Benedict was soooo dreeeeamy, c. 1978.)
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rockerbiff
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posted 14 March 2006 01:46 PM
Exactly, I could never get over this, maybe this is why they killed him off at the end of the show ? He even looks like Bush. quote: Originally posted by scott:
Evertime he speaks he reminds me of a way smarter version of Dubya. [ 13 March 2006: Message edited by: scott ]
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Mr. Anonymous
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posted 08 April 2006 09:51 PM
On a tangential note, Lt. Col. Philip Corso in his book "The day after roswell" describes how he dissemininated technology from the roswell crash into the mainstream through major US companies.This is not a joke, Corso was a respected officer (a member of President Eisenhower's National Security Council and former head of the Foreign Technology Desk at the U.S. Army's Research & Development department) who could have had access to such things, if you believe such things do in fact exist. From one review: "Colonel Philip Corso, USA, (Ret.) was a key Army intelligence officer who served on General MacArthur's staff in Korea, and later on President's Dwight D. Eisenhower's National Security Council as a Lt. Colonel. During his twenty-one-year military career, he was honored with 19 medals, decorations and ribbons for meritorious service. He retired from the army in 1963, and went on to serve Senator James Eastland and Strom Thurmond as a staff member specializing in national security." See the amazon.com page here, or the editorial reviews (non-customer) here. [ 08 April 2006: Message edited by: Mr. Anonymous ]
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