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audra trower williams
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posted 03 October 2001 08:21 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey, there's this REALLY good book called Black Berry, Sweet Juice that I happened to do the research and cover for recently ...
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rasmus
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posted 04 October 2001 01:06 AM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Go ahead! Have you read it? Do you recommend it?... as for the other threads, this weekend I am going to finish the other two books and do a quick and dirty summary of both. Audra, may I suggest converting this forum into an "ideas" forum where all that science, philosophy and miscellaneous other stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else can go?
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audra trower williams
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posted 04 October 2001 10:32 AM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We can have another forum for that, if you like. I like the idea of a book club. Lemme see if I can get some discount autographed copies of the book. Who's in?
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clockwork
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posted 04 October 2001 11:06 AM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What kind of book club?
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skdadl
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posted 04 October 2001 11:10 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
To Sir:

I know you've given up on me. I don't blame you for giving up on me.

But it's not true it's not true it's not true. I did go on with the reading, and I do intend to post again, but, y'know, life ... Excuses, excuses ...

I wanted you to know that I figured out all by my li'l self, from a passage in chapter 4, how that passage would be put in modern economic-speak -- sort of a backwards approach to law-construction. I was so proud of myself when I did it (a month or so ago), but I would now have to reread to re-experience the epiphany.

But I will I will. Promithe.

yrs, skdadl


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clockwork
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posted 04 October 2001 11:21 AM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is this something we are all supposed to understand...? I know being confused is a natural state for me, but...
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skdadl
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posted 04 October 2001 11:32 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry, clockwork -- way back there somewhere, some of us were reading Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations, together ... and then we sorta drifted away ... (It was summer; it was hot; and then it wasn't any more; and one of my cats had a toothache, and, um ...)
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clockwork
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posted 04 October 2001 11:36 AM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Excuses are my department and I didn't authorize excuse loans to anyone. I'll have to reprimand my staff...

I've read books like that too.


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audra trower williams
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posted 04 October 2001 12:31 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Clockwork: This forum is a book club.

The book is good, you can find out about it, and the author, here.

(Nice site, wot?)

[ October 04, 2001: Message edited by: audra estrones ]


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clockwork
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posted 04 October 2001 01:24 PM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hehe, audra… you manage to sell yourself selling other people. That’s a knack!
And when mentioning ‘books like that’ I was referring to Wealth of Nations, I hope you didn’t think I was referring to Black Berry, Sweet Juice.
Anyway, I feel I should contribute something constructive to this thread since this is my third post here. The last sorta novel I read was Treason by the Book by Jonathan D Spence. I say sorta because it’s a historical novel. It’s about how a little nutbar villager in backwater China gets mixed up with the Emperor Yongzheng. It is a fascinating tale of the workings and whims of imperial China but it is not a literary work by any stretch. I can’t stress ‘fascinating’ enough… but that is just my humble opinion.

(what does "wot" mean?)


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Dawna Matrix
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posted 04 October 2001 01:59 PM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Kinda like 'eh?', I think.
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'lance
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posted 05 October 2001 06:20 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great site indeed.

I'm interested in the book club. When I first came 'round here, y'all seemed so well-established that my natural shyness took over and, uh...


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Tommy_Paine
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posted 06 October 2001 10:14 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I finally finished "At Home with the Marquis de Sade" by Francine du Plessix Gray.

I don't recall ever taking so long to read a book I enjoyed so much. I just could not find the satisfactory chunks of time to devote to it until last week when I had to fill in on night shift.

Excellent work. If you are looking for a salacious treatment on de Sade, or Sadism, then take a hike, this book is not "one to be read with one hand", as a contemporary of de Sade described de Sade's works.

du Plessix Gray takes us for a colourful walk through prerevolutionary France, through the revolution and into the Napoleanic era.

She breathes some life into de Sade, who most of us think we know from reputation and reveals the man as he was; petulant, driven, paranoid, homicidal in his imagination, but capable of gentleness in real life, a man touchingly devoted to his Puritanical wife-- yet given to paranoid delusions about her conduct. du Plessix Gray explores the contradictions of de Sade, and makes some rather moving conclusion at the end, putting in context de Sades true legacy.

If you are not familiar with France from 1750 to 1815, and you should be, then this book is as good as any to aquiant you with the period.


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jeff house
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posted 07 October 2001 12:27 AM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tommy, thanks for that review. I had wanted to read it when it came out a few years ago, but it somehow sank beneath the radar. I'll look for it.
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skdadl
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posted 07 October 2001 08:40 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, Tommy, great review. So when are you going to start doing the Columnists thread again? I may be getting some of my fire back, but you were our inspiration ...
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Tommy_Paine
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posted 07 October 2001 08:41 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you skadl.

I might do that again, I just don't have that much time to do it justice. Seems all I have time for is to run around and drop little posts from time to time.

Then again, I guess I don't have to do a column a day.


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'lance
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posted 07 October 2001 08:47 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I may be getting some of my fire back...

At last, some good news today.

[ October 07, 2001: Message edited by: 'lance ]


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Jake
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posted 22 November 2001 12:13 PM      Profile for Jake     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi

just finished "And All Our Wounds Forgiven" a novel by Julius Lester. set around the civil rights movement of the '60s. A good read. Interesting perspective.

Jake


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Jared
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posted 22 November 2001 12:50 PM      Profile for Jared     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I finally finished "At Home with the Marquis de Sade" by Francine du Plessix Gray.

Just realized that I purchased this book a few weeks back at the enormous public library book sale (for $2). I've yet to start it though; perhaps after exams.

[ November 22, 2001: Message edited by: Jared ]


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Dawna Matrix
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posted 22 November 2001 03:37 PM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just finished 'Death is a Lonely Business', and am in the middle of reading Grant Morrison's 'The Invisibles' series. Next is Grey, by rabble's very own Judym
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Tommy_Paine
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posted 23 November 2001 02:09 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm into Alexis de Tocqueville's "Democracy in America". I've been using it to induce little cat naps at work on the night shift.
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Dawna Matrix
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posted 26 November 2001 12:16 AM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
'Grey' kicked ass, go get it. That's an order.
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posted 26 November 2001 04:44 AM      Profile for sherpafish   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
'Whale Music' by Paul Quarington amazed me. If you are a fan, or just good aquantince of the Beach Boy's music, this book is a must read. An obsenently fictional tale of a charecter who closely resembles Brian Wilson in his later, reclusive years. Pulling a Howard Hughes is how Quarington put it I belive.

What realy got me is that this book hits you on so many sensual levels. The music is such an integral part of the story.

Warning: I found myself pulling out my old vinyl copy of 'Smile' while reading - also listening to the Barenaked Ladies' 'Brian Wilson'. The Rheostatics covered the songs from the book and made an album 'Whale Music'. I will be getting that album.

The movie version was shot in Lions Bay just north of Van - I havn't seen it but I hear its good. The book was good enough for me.


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Jared
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posted 26 November 2001 12:08 PM      Profile for Jared     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
'Whale Music' by Paul Quarington amazed me. If you are a fan, or just good aquantince of the Beach Boy's music, this book is a must read. An obsenently fictional tale of a charecter who closely resembles Brian Wilson in his later, reclusive years. Pulling a Howard Hughes is how Quarington put it I belive.

There's some weird synchronicity...I actually just finished re-reading this book less than a week ago. Speaking of which, it's due back today...

"Apparently I'm a genius, which some women find attractive." Hee!


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posted 27 November 2001 02:15 AM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Loved 'Whale Music'; was therefore reluctant to see the movie, but pleasantly surprised: it stick very close to the text.

PS The Lawrence Hill site really is nice - i especially like the gentle colours.


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Jared
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Managing to fit Irvine Welsh's "Glue" into brief respites from studying for finals. And yeah, Welsh really is the epitome of "read one, read 'em all" authors. So what? It's not a bad l'il novel.

Bugs my friends though, because while reading books like this, my vocab goes all superficially anglophile (Scotophile?) and I always use the words wrong.

[ December 01, 2001: Message edited by: Jared ]


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posted 07 January 2002 11:39 PM      Profile for EmmaRS     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
hey,

I'm new in town. knew about the site for a while now, but have been living in the states and consumed by the crap there. Anyway I just read Ken Wiwa's In the Shadow of a Saint - it's a biography of Ken Saro-Wiwa by his son who is now living in Toronto. Published by Knopf (always a tipoff for a good book). Anyway it was an amazing read - the topic was close to home, but the book is genuine and honest and inspirational for those of us in the fruitless business of changing the world.


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Dawna Matrix
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posted 08 January 2002 12:15 AM      Profile for Dawna Matrix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ken Wiwa and Lawrence Hill did a reading together at the U of T.
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Ken Wiwa speaks around Toronto from time to time, and is always worth hearings. But thanks for the tip about the book; I had seen it at Chapters but hesitated. I think I am now convinced. (But I am price-sensitive!)
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clockwork
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posted 10 January 2002 03:23 AM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ken Wiwa is, or was, writing an occasionaly peice for the Globe & Mail. I can't remember the last time I saw it and am not sure how long it is supposed to last. The peices or about his observations travelling about in the States... I think anyway.
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MJ
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posted 10 January 2002 06:56 PM      Profile for MJ     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm reading both Shadow of a Saint, and Black Berry, Sweet Juice by Lawrence Hill.

And Competitive Strategy by Michael Porter, and Nietzsche in Venice, and No Great Mischief by Alistair MacLeod, and selected writings of Thomas Aquinas and Complexification by John Casti and Imagine Democracy by Judes and...

(by reading, I mean of course looking at a big stack of un-read books that I claim I'm in the process of reading)


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posted 11 January 2002 06:01 PM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I really like you for some reason, MJ.

(Maybe I felt the need to be nice to a man after a few verbal boxing matches with some other male specimens today. And maybe I do like you )


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EmmaRS
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posted 14 January 2002 12:01 AM      Profile for EmmaRS     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
wiwa has been doing these travel pieces (I'm not a huge fan I have to admit - where are the politics?) but his speaking engagements have been pretty great (I missed the one at u of t)
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MJ
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posted 14 January 2002 12:28 PM      Profile for MJ     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Aw, that's sweet Tres. I like you too - maybe it's the Halifax thing, Maritime solidarity and all that?

EmmaRS - I think Ken Wiwa has a fairly conflicted relationship with politics, based on what he's written, and what he said at the U of T reading.


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posted 15 January 2002 07:45 PM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Maybe it's the Halifax thing, Maritime solidarity and all that

Maybe. But maybe it's Thomas Aquinas: anybody reading Thomas Aquinas "in this day and age" is a friend of mine.


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'lance
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posted 15 January 2002 08:05 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm reading Proust, "Swann's Way" -- does that cut any ice, Trespasser?
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posted 15 January 2002 08:11 PM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

*Sigh*


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posted 15 January 2002 08:15 PM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And where are you at, 'lance? Did Swann become obsessive yet? Did he wake up one morning, feeling unusual pain in his lower stomach, and did he say to himself: Maybe I'm ill! Maybe this will finally get Odette off my mind! I hope it's deadly - my thoughts are going to be free again!

Did he, yet?


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'lance
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posted 15 January 2002 08:19 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Damn, Trespasser! You're giving away the plot!

I'm still halfway through the "Combray" chapter -- family business, mostly. Swann's put in only one or two appearances.

I decided that I was going to take my time over this, and read it well, unlike some Big Books I've read (Herodotus, for example). I limit myself to 10 pages or so a day.

Actually, I find reading it on the bus, while listening to say the third Velvet Underground album, is very soothing. A good stress preventive.


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posted 15 January 2002 08:27 PM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I always wanted to find time for Herodotus, but never managed. Parts of Thucydides, yes, he certainly found his way into political theory and philosophy, but Herodotus never, somehow.

Let me know your comments about Proust as you go.


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MJ
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posted 16 January 2002 12:16 PM      Profile for MJ     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've always like Thucydides, for all that he was a conservative and a bit of an elistist.
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posted 16 January 2002 06:24 PM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
'Conservative' is too mild a word . He's the first Thrasymachus before Thrasymachus, first Nietzschean before Nietzsche, first realipolitik Machiavelllian before Machiavelli.

He's been appropriated that way by the history of ideas, that is.


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posted 16 January 2002 06:59 PM      Profile for Quirk   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Currently, I'm reading Hero With a Thousand Faced, by Joseph Campbell, I recently finished Lewis Hydes "Trickster Makes This World" In my on-going facination with Trickster Mythology, I am considering picking up Erik Davis' book TechGnosis next, has anybody read it? Any recomendations?
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