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robbie_dee
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posted 25 March 2004 11:32 AM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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February 2004: A commercial airs on Iowa television in which the then-front-runner for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, Howard Dean, was blasted for being the choice of the cultural elites: a "tax hiking, government-expanding, latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading, body-piercing, Hollywood-loving, left-wing freak show" who had no business trying to talk to the plain folk of Iowa.

The commercial was sponsored by the Club for Growth, a Washington-based organization dedicated to hooking up pro-business rich people with pro-business politicians. The organization is made up of anti-government economists, prominent men of means and big thinkers of the late New Economy, celebrated geniuses of the sort that spent the past 10 years describing the low-tax, deregulated economy as though it were the second coming of Christ. In other words, the people who thought they saw Jesus in the ever-ascending Nasdaq, the pundits who worked themselves into a lather singing the praises of new billionaires, the economists who made a living by publicly insisting that privatization and deregulation were the mandates of history itself are now running television commercials denouncing the "elite."

That's the mystery of the United States, circa 2004. Thanks to the rightward political shift of the past 30 years, wealth is today concentrated in fewer hands than it has been since the 1920s; workers have less power over the conditions under which they toil than ever before in our lifetimes; and the corporation has become the most powerful actor in our world. Yet that rightward shift – still going strong to this day – sells itself as a war against elites, a righteous uprising of the little guy against an obnoxious upper class.


Read the Rest at Alternet.org


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redshift
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posted 25 March 2004 12:16 PM      Profile for redshift     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
an interesting corollary of this is the popular myth of the self-made man as millionaire. and the ethical bankruptcy of the business class, as it is increasingly apparent that in most cases mega-success hinges on becoming a predatory mercenary.
and Donald Trump becomes a figure of media adultation.

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posted 25 March 2004 07:04 PM      Profile for Cougyr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's an interesting article. (I read it first on a French Web site. In fact, I thought it was by a French author.)

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Until the American Left decides to take a long, unprejudiced look at deepest America, at the kind of people who think voting for George Bush constitutes a blow against the elite, they are fated to continue their slide to oblivion.

I still think that Bush will get a second term. At the very least, the Americans will continue their march toward Fascism under the banner of democracy.

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For Europe and the world the failure is costlier still, dooming them to the wars and the policy impositions of an America they refuse to understand.

Someday, it will eventually boil down to the rest of the world against the US. The Americans are becoming the new Fascists. Historians will look back and wonder how such nice people became monsters.


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nonsuch
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posted 25 March 2004 09:40 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Historians will look back and see an unbroken trend from the Pilgrims onward. They won't see all the nice Americans, any more than we see all the nice pre-WWII Germans: History doesn't record niceness.
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posted 25 March 2004 09:48 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have to disagree with you there, nonesuch. The history I recognize as such records, or recovers, all sorts of things, and revels in complexity, not oversimplification. (And any "historian" who sees nothing but "unbroken trends" is a sloppy amateur at best, a committed ideologue at worst, a la Samuel Huntington, Bernard Lewis, etc.).

The familiar saying has it "History is written by the victors." I like to reply, "If it's written by the victors" -- that is, to serve their interests -- "it's not history, but propaganda."

[ 25 March 2004: Message edited by: 'lance ]


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robbie_dee
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posted 25 March 2004 10:21 PM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think you folks are missing a few things from the article.

First of all, I don't think the collapse of working-class consciousness in the face of right-wing "populist" demagoguery is confined to the USA. Where do you think the Reform Party got all its votes from? The same farmers and white male workers who used to be part of the CCF farmer-labour alliance. You might not want to be so smug in labelling this as "some other countries problem." (And even if it was a strictly US problem, you would still be pretty screwed because you're located right next to us).

Also, and more importantly, the article isn't just an attack on the big bad Right for their disingenuous (and effective) rhetoric. It is also a critique of the Left for its failure to respond. The Democratic Party has, to a significant extent, become a party of latte-sipping Northeastern urban liberals. They've lost touch with a lot of their rural and blue collar base - the kind of people who helped elect FDR and Kennedy. And to some degree, the NDP is grappling with the same problems in Canada. So what are we going to do about it?


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posted 25 March 2004 11:30 PM      Profile for Cougyr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by robbie_dee:
I think you folks are missing a few things from the article.

First of all, I don't think the collapse of working-class consciousness in the face of right-wing "populist" demagoguery is confined to the USA. Where do you think the Reform Party got all its votes from? The same farmers and white male workers who used to be part of the CCF farmer-labour alliance. You might not want to be so smug in labelling this as "some other countries problem." (And even if it was a strictly US problem, you would still be pretty screwed because you're located right next to us).

Also, and more importantly, the article isn't just an attack on the big bad Right for their disingenuous (and effective) rhetoric. It is also a critique of the Left for its failure to respond. The Democratic Party has, to a significant extent, become a party of latte-sipping Northeastern urban liberals. They've lost touch with a lot of their rural and blue collar base - the kind of people who helped elect FDR and Kennedy. And to some degree, the NDP is grappling with the same problems in Canada. So what are we going to do about it?


Yes, you are right. And yes, we would be screwed. Canada is in peril of becoming a satellite state; and there are plenty of Canadians who think that would be a good idea. Does Vichy ring any bells?

I'm not being smug about this. I'm downright paranoid about it. I've been watching America march to a nasty drumbeat for a very long time.

[ 25 March 2004: Message edited by: Cougyr ]


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posted 25 March 2004 11:45 PM      Profile for No Yards   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, and look at the leader of the Canadian Republicans . . . Harper came directly out of the NCC, a right wing organization founded by an insurance millionaire, whose main goal was to get rid of healthcare and public health insurance, which was cutting into hs right to gouge the people.

The National Citizens' Coalition loves you - ha! ha! ha!

But there are still some people who still actually believe that Harper is their leader in the fight against the elites!


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Cougyr
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posted 26 March 2004 02:58 PM      Profile for Cougyr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's interesting, No Yards. I didn't know that about the NCC. There sure needs to be some real truth in advertising. By calling themselves the National Citizens Coalition, they are essentially fraudulent. They should be forced to be called the National Fat Cats Coalition. Then everyone would know what they are up to.
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posted 26 March 2004 03:57 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Another in-depth study of the NCC
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Rufus Polson
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posted 26 March 2004 04:53 PM      Profile for Rufus Polson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
About the Left's failure to stay engaged with working class people, both rural and to some extent urban--it is a real problem in Canada as well.
In the US it's a problem mostly because they don't have a Left; the Democrats fail to engage with the working class because they are a corporate party with a softer edge, rather than a party which even aspires to be a party for the working class. But the NDP has this difficulty as well.
To be fair, it isn't all the NDP's fault. Manufacturing consent may be a way to duck our failures, but it is also very real. The folks with the bucks can pay for an awful lot of rhetoric, from "nonpartisan" think tanks to PR placements in the media to owning the media itself. Izzy Asper's children are more ideologically committed than he was. So there are powerful forces defining what "conventional wisdom" will be, and making people think it was their idea.
Digging under all this tends to take education, which in turn tends to result in a bunch of highly educated leftists who no longer talk much to the people they're supposedly for. And when they do, they don't have insider credibility. It's a problem.
On the urban side, the front-line social movement types and informal social services often have people with street cred and up-close knowledge of the needs of the poor, which is one good reason that the formal left such as the NDP should have close ties with them. There are signs that the rift is beginning to heal, which is good. But even there--that tends to put a connection between the left and the *really* poor, not the people with McJobs. And it doesn't reach the rural population. What to do?

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Lord Palmerston
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posted 26 March 2004 08:09 PM      Profile for Lord Palmerston     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This problem is especially true in pre-amalgamation City of Toronto, where the NDP's strength today lies in middle class professional areas like the Annex. Rosario Marchese, the NDP MPP for Trinity-Spadina, admits that his real base is among middle class professionals. The Liberals tend to win big in working class Portuguese and Italian areas, though this element is shrinking and the Secular WASP/Jewish intelligentsia is expanding, to the benefit of the "working class" NDP.

It would be interesting if they did detailed polling of support for parties, but they do a pathetic job covering this up here, unlike in the US. "High income" households according to Ipsos means 60K+ (median household last census was just under 50K). Education isn't broken down that well either (how often do you see people with advanced degrees polled in Canada - they're certainly now statistically significant). Religion and ethnicity could also be useful. It would be interesting to see the NDP's support base.


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Adam T
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posted 27 March 2004 01:28 AM      Profile for Adam T     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is something particularly intersting in British Columbia, where we have a lot of middle class and lower middle class populists who have traditionally voted with the NDP, but swung to the Reform Party in the 1990's.

I think there are a variety of reasons for a right wing appeal against the 'Liberal elites'. The most modern argument is over some of the social issues.

I'm not sure in the U.S what the term refers to "the Eastern Liberal establishment elite" that the Republican party mouthpieces constantly complain about. I think the term refers back to the 1950's or something, probably when Adlai Stevenson was running for President (though he is from Ohio). It would be interesting to see if modern polling in the U.S would show if the phrase has any relevance with U.S voters anymore.

Not to offend anybody, but the first case I remember as a youngster of conservatives going on about 'liberal elites' in a comedic setting was Dan Akroyd on Saturday Night Live calling Jane "an ignorant slut" on a mockup of a point/counterpoint tv program that aired in the 1970's. I think that is somewhat interesting, because it shows that even a then counter culture program like SNL played upon anti 'liberal elite' feelings in the 1970's.


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Adam T
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posted 27 March 2004 01:30 AM      Profile for Adam T     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
2 additions,
1.the 'Jane' above is Jane Curtain. His exact quote was "Jane, you ignorant slut"

2.Adlai Stevenson is, of course, from Illinois, not Ohio.


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Lord Palmerston
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posted 27 March 2004 10:34 PM      Profile for Lord Palmerston     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If one wants to hear about "liberal elites" on a regular basis, there's always the Toronto Sun newspaper. It's a very right-wing paper with its own class analysis: the very poor, left-leaning politicians, bureaucrats and professionals, and the regular folks. The Sun stands up for the regular folks against the very poor (who are lacking in character and need to be protected from) as well as elites on the left. So if there's a murder in Etobicoke or Scarborough, they'll chastize David Miller living in his elitist, out-of-touch neighborhood of High Park. Of course if someone gets killed in Regent Park or St. Jamestown, the Sun doesn't care.
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quote:
This is something particularly intersting in British Columbia, where we have a lot of middle class and lower middle class populists who have traditionally voted with the NDP, but swung to the Reform Party in the 1990's.

I lived outside of Chatham when I was younger - same phenomenon. The union would vote NDP provincially (because the candidate was usually one of their own, and because the provincial wing was perceived as more union-friendly) but they would vote Reform/Alliance federally, I think because they tend to be socially conservative and the federal party is perceived as less and less union-friendly (so they might as well go for the tax breaks). It didn't matter anyway - Liberal Susan Whelan always won.


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